LeBron James 2021-22 Regular Season Thread - Part ?

[MisterHibachi]

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This + latest Grant news about him being the hottest trade piece this deadline with lots of bidders kind of spells out the Lakers won't be making a trade for either of them, as unlikely as that already was.

[falcolombardi]

myles Turner would be awesome and worth the risk imo

he would allow lakers to play big in defense with a turner/davis/lebron front court whitout killing spacing

add one of reaves or avery in the lineup and lakers may even be strong in defense again

if is possible cause injury concerns lakers should go all in , not like they have any chance to win as currently constructed

[dcstanley]

What exactly is the downside to Reaves starting? Every time I watch him play it's just high IQ plays and hustle. I feel like he should get as many minutes with LeBron as possible, but it seems everyone here is talking about Monk vs Bradley. Is there some benefit to having him come off the bench?

I think it's a combo of his physical attributes and his inexperience. He doesn't seem to have an NBA frame yet, I've noticed that he has a tendency to get knocked off balance. I still think he's a better option than Bradley.

[PistolPeteJR]

LePerkins laying out the Jazz defenders to open the lane for Stanley Johnson lmao

LePerkins lmao

[Ballerhogger]

If the Lakers dump Vogel for Fizdale they are a certified joke.

Why would they?

Good question... yet:

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/lakers-nearly-fired-frank-vogel-after-blowout-loss-as-embattled-coach-remains-on-hot-seat-per-report/

Oh yea I saw that just bit a ago Fizzdale would be worst Ug

[trickshot]

Vogel got his ring. After this summer I'd go somewhere I'm actually respected. Imagine building a frankenstein's monster of a roster and blaming the one guy who had little to do with it.

Knew he was being setup to fail when the GM said they were relying on schemes to turn the hermaphrodite of a roster into a top 5 defense. You don't build a team like Portland and ask it to play like the Bucks. Might be up there with the rockets front office for management most likely to be run by casuals.

[trickshot]

Rnadom tone shift but never forget Vogel's pretty boy phase.



too handsome. For sure has several mistresses around the state.

[thebigbird]

Vogel got his ring. After this summer I'd go somewhere I'm actually respected. Imagine building a frankenstein's monster of a roster and blaming the one guy who had little to do with it.

Knew he was being setup to fail when the GM said they were relying on schemes to turn the hermaphrodite of a roster into a top 5 defense. You don't build a team like Portland and ask it to play like the Bucks. Might be up there with the rockets front office for management most likely to be run by casuals.

Vogel isn’t the only problem with this team, but he’s a huge one. He was starting Deandre Jordan for a significant amount of time. He is clueless when it comes to rotations. His rotations have been bad for three years now. LeBron and AD were just so good the first year that it didn’t really matter. Now that they aren’t, it’s not being covered up anymore.

[trickshot]

Vogel got his ring. After this summer I'd go somewhere I'm actually respected. Imagine building a frankenstein's monster of a roster and blaming the one guy who had little to do with it.

Knew he was being setup to fail when the GM said they were relying on schemes to turn the hermaphrodite of a roster into a top 5 defense. You don't build a team like Portland and ask it to play like the Bucks. Might be up there with the rockets front office for management most likely to be run by casuals.

Vogel isn’t the only problem with this team, but he’s a huge one. He was starting Deandre Jordan for a significant amount of time. He is clueless when it comes to rotations. His rotations have been bad for three years now. LeBron and AD were just so good the first year that it didn’t really matter. Now that they aren’t, it’s not being covered up anymore.

The rationale was to look for anyone who could stem the bleeding of having 3 guards on the floor. That was a choice forced by a massive roster flaw. So he tried to make the most of the tools he was given before ditching them. Jordan is on the bench now, so is Bazemore. There's a checklist of combinations a coach will tick before concluding a player is no good and bench the rest of the way. Ariza is also looking like he might slide down the pecking order very soon but he has to be experimented extensively to reach that conclusion.

Blame whoever told the coach to get results with those guys. These guys didn't just turn scrubs, they were scrubs this time last year. What FO would sign these then blame the coach?

[zimpy27]

Vogel got his ring. After this summer I'd go somewhere I'm actually respected. Imagine building a frankenstein's monster of a roster and blaming the one guy who had little to do with it.

Knew he was being setup to fail when the GM said they were relying on schemes to turn the hermaphrodite of a roster into a top 5 defense. You don't build a team like Portland and ask it to play like the Bucks. Might be up there with the rockets front office for management most likely to be run by casuals.

Vogel isn’t the only problem with this team, but he’s a huge one. He was starting Deandre Jordan for a significant amount of time. He is clueless when it comes to rotations. His rotations have been bad for three years now. LeBron and AD were just so good the first year that it didn’t really matter. Now that they aren’t, it’s not being covered up anymore.

The rationale was to look for anyone who could stem the bleeding of having 3 guards on the floor. That was a choice forced by a massive roster flaw. So he tried to make the most of the tools he was given before ditching them. Jordan is on the bench now, so is Bazemore. There's a checklist of combinations a coach will tick before concluding a player is no good and bench the rest of the way. Ariza is also looking like he might slide down the pecking order very soon but he has to be experimented extensively to reach that conclusion.

Blame whoever told the coach to get results with those guys. These guys didn't just turn scrubs, they were scrubs this time last year. What FO would sign these then blame the coach?

There is an obvious lack of communication between Vogel and the FO. Vogel wants a point of attack defender on the floor at all time. No point of attack defender existed on the Lakers roster before they got Bradley.

Maybe Nunn could do it but he hasn't shown to be a great defender.

[nzahir]

Vogel got his ring. After this summer I'd go somewhere I'm actually respected. Imagine building a frankenstein's monster of a roster and blaming the one guy who had little to do with it.

Knew he was being setup to fail when the GM said they were relying on schemes to turn the hermaphrodite of a roster into a top 5 defense. You don't build a team like Portland and ask it to play like the Bucks. Might be up there with the rockets front office for management most likely to be run by casuals.

Vogel isn’t the only problem with this team, but he’s a huge one. He was starting Deandre Jordan for a significant amount of time. He is clueless when it comes to rotations. His rotations have been bad for three years now. LeBron and AD were just so good the first year that it didn’t really matter. Now that they aren’t, it’s not being covered up anymore.

The rationale was to look for anyone who could stem the bleeding of having 3 guards on the floor. That was a choice forced by a massive roster flaw. So he tried to make the most of the tools he was given before ditching them. Jordan is on the bench now, so is Bazemore. There's a checklist of combinations a coach will tick before concluding a player is no good and bench the rest of the way. Ariza is also looking like he might slide down the pecking order very soon but he has to be experimented extensively to reach that conclusion.

Blame whoever told the coach to get results with those guys. These guys didn't just turn scrubs, they were scrubs this time last year. What FO would sign these then blame the coach?

What about last night in the 3rd Q when he plays a lineup without Lebron or Russ and we get killed?

Almost cost us the game until Bron and Stanley bailed us out

Everyone here saw DJ was washed and shouldve been a 3rd C at best for depth, he didn't have to start him

He can be very hard headed at times

Why does he still play Avery so many min when he ranks poorly in most places?

[trickshot]

Vogel isn’t the only problem with this team, but he’s a huge one. He was starting Deandre Jordan for a significant amount of time. He is clueless when it comes to rotations. His rotations have been bad for three years now. LeBron and AD were just so good the first year that it didn’t really matter. Now that they aren’t, it’s not being covered up anymore.

The rationale was to look for anyone who could stem the bleeding of having 3 guards on the floor. That was a choice forced by a massive roster flaw. So he tried to make the most of the tools he was given before ditching them. Jordan is on the bench now, so is Bazemore. There's a checklist of combinations a coach will tick before concluding a player is no good and bench the rest of the way. Ariza is also looking like he might slide down the pecking order very soon but he has to be experimented extensively to reach that conclusion.

Blame whoever told the coach to get results with those guys. These guys didn't just turn scrubs, they were scrubs this time last year. What FO would sign these then blame the coach?

What about last night in the 3rd Q when he plays a lineup without Lebron or Russ and we get killed?

Almost cost us the game until Bron and Stanley bailed us out

Everyone here saw DJ was washed and shouldve been a 3rd C at best for depth, he didn't have to start him

He can be very hard headed at times

Why does he still play Avery so many min when he ranks poorly in most places?

Bradley is the the only POA defender. Another brainfart from building for smallball lineups with 3 undersized guards who can barely guard their own positions. He's also playing well. I can tell you what is wrong with every metric against Bradley. There was one here recently discrediting his percentages as the easiest in the league. If Bazemore and others knocked down the open looks that came from playing with 2 stars they too would have been on that list. That particular stat could actually be interpreted for why he fits.

Lineups without Russ and Bron,mm, I guess, but we just analysed a clip where Westbrook's awful game management at the end of the 3rd quarter was worse than racking up 2 shot clock violations. Having him on the floor without Lebron isn't always better than having a 3 and D option in his place and the coaches have had a front row seat to that movie all season. Check it out, his minutes are already getting slashed.

About DJ, yeah that guys is garbage, we can drink to that, friend.

[zimpy27]

The rationale was to look for anyone who could stem the bleeding of having 3 guards on the floor. That was a choice forced by a massive roster flaw. So he tried to make the most of the tools he was given before ditching them. Jordan is on the bench now, so is Bazemore. There's a checklist of combinations a coach will tick before concluding a player is no good and bench the rest of the way. Ariza is also looking like he might slide down the pecking order very soon but he has to be experimented extensively to reach that conclusion.

Blame whoever told the coach to get results with those guys. These guys didn't just turn scrubs, they were scrubs this time last year. What FO would sign these then blame the coach?

What about last night in the 3rd Q when he plays a lineup without Lebron or Russ and we get killed?

Almost cost us the game until Bron and Stanley bailed us out

Everyone here saw DJ was washed and shouldve been a 3rd C at best for depth, he didn't have to start him

He can be very hard headed at times

Why does he still play Avery so many min when he ranks poorly in most places?

Bradley is the the only POA defender. Another brainfart from building for smallball lineups with 3 undersized guards who can barely guard their own positions. He's also playing well. I can tell you what is wrong with every metric against Bradley. There was one here recently discrediting his percentages as the easiest in the league. If Bazemore and others knocked down the open looks that came from playing with 2 stars they too would have been on that list. That particular stat could actually be interpreted for why he fits.

Lineups without Russ and Bron,mm, I guess, but we just analysed a clip where Westbrook's awful game management at the end of the 3rd quarter was worse than racking up 2 shot clock violations. Having him on the floor without Lebron isn't always better than having a 3 and D option in his place and the coaches have had a front row seat to that movie all season. Check it out, his minutes are already getting slashed.

About DJ, yeah that guys is garbage, we can drink to that, friend.

I think Vogel has done a bad job of playing a team around Russ when LeBron sits and while Davis has been injured. Needs to focus on offense and forget defense a bit.

[trickshot]

What about last night in the 3rd Q when he plays a lineup without Lebron or Russ and we get killed?

Almost cost us the game until Bron and Stanley bailed us out

Everyone here saw DJ was washed and shouldve been a 3rd C at best for depth, he didn't have to start him

He can be very hard headed at times

Why does he still play Avery so many min when he ranks poorly in most places?

Bradley is the the only POA defender. Another brainfart from building for smallball lineups with 3 undersized guards who can barely guard their own positions. He's also playing well. I can tell you what is wrong with every metric against Bradley. There was one here recently discrediting his percentages as the easiest in the league. If Bazemore and others knocked down the open looks that came from playing with 2 stars they too would have been on that list. That particular stat could actually be interpreted for why he fits.

Lineups without Russ and Bron,mm, I guess, but we just analysed a clip where Westbrook's awful game management at the end of the 3rd quarter was worse than racking up 2 shot clock violations. Having him on the floor without Lebron isn't always better than having a 3 and D option in his place and the coaches have had a front row seat to that movie all season. Check it out, his minutes are already getting slashed.

About DJ, yeah that guys is garbage, we can drink to that, friend.

I think Vogel has done a bad job of playing a team around Russ when LeBron sits and while Davis has been injured. Needs to focus on offense and forget defense a bit.

Fizdale did some semblance of that and it was an unmitigated disaster. No team has the offense to outpace the kind of points their all-offense lineups gave up. Lebron is the only player in the league who can play productive net positive minutes with 4 minimum contract specialists and even that carries some conditions. Everyone else, including Westbrook needs some semblance of functionality.

[zimpy27]

Bradley is the the only POA defender. Another brainfart from building for smallball lineups with 3 undersized guards who can barely guard their own positions. He's also playing well. I can tell you what is wrong with every metric against Bradley. There was one here recently discrediting his percentages as the easiest in the league. If Bazemore and others knocked down the open looks that came from playing with 2 stars they too would have been on that list. That particular stat could actually be interpreted for why he fits.

Lineups without Russ and Bron,mm, I guess, but we just analysed a clip where Westbrook's awful game management at the end of the 3rd quarter was worse than racking up 2 shot clock violations. Having him on the floor without Lebron isn't always better than having a 3 and D option in his place and the coaches have had a front row seat to that movie all season. Check it out, his minutes are already getting slashed.

About DJ, yeah that guys is garbage, we can drink to that, friend.

I think Vogel has done a bad job of playing a team around Russ when LeBron sits and while Davis has been injured. Needs to focus on offense and forget defense a bit.

Fizdale did some semblance of that and it was an unmitigated disaster. No team has the offense to outpace the kind of points their all-offense lineups gave up. Lebron is the only player in the league who can play productive net positive minutes with 4 minimum contract specialists and even that carries some conditions. Everyone else, including Westbrook needs some semblance of functionality.

Fizdale was going way too small. Westbrook should be the smallest guy on a offense driven team.

Westbrook, Ellington, Reaves, Melo, Howard
That would be my go to.

I'd use Monk but Monk should play every minute with LeBron

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Franchise is cooked. There’s no good process here. These leaks are coming right after the best win of the season too.

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Franchise is cooked. There’s no good process here. These leaks are coming right after the best win of the season too.

They've been this way for years. LeBron wanting to live in LA is the only thing that provided any kind of respite.

[MisterHibachi]

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Franchise is cooked. There’s no good process here. These leaks are coming right after the best win of the season too.

They've been this way for years. LeBron wanting to live in LA is the only thing that provided any kind of respite.

I'm not a fan of Vogel, but he's magnitudes better than Rambis at coaching. Literally what has Rambis ever proven in his coaching career to get authority to dictate basketball lineups to Vogel.

How the hell is the league's premier franchise run like such a mom and pop joint.

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Franchise is cooked. There’s no good process here. These leaks are coming right after the best win of the season too.

They've been this way for years. LeBron wanting to live in LA is the only thing that provided any kind of respite.

I'm not a fan of Vogel, but he's magnitudes better than Rambis at coaching. Literally what has Rambis ever proven in his coaching career to get authority to dictate basketball lineups to Vogel.

How the hell is the league's premier franchise run like such a mom and pop joint.

He has a job for the reason Magic and then Pelinka got their jobs: rampant nepotism. It's pathetic.

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Franchise is cooked. There’s no good process here. These leaks are coming right after the best win of the season too.

They've been this way for years. LeBron wanting to live in LA is the only thing that provided any kind of respite.

I'm not a fan of Vogel, but he's magnitudes better than Rambis at coaching. Literally what has Rambis ever proven in his coaching career to get authority to dictate basketball lineups to Vogel.

How the hell is the league's premier franchise run like such a mom and pop joint.

well, they kinda are a family business, think of it as a couple rich kids trust fund

the buss children basically inherited the most valuable brand in basketball and are just coasting of lakers rather thsb growing the franchise

they are like the glazers coasting of the Manchester United brand in soccer while not doing anythingh good for the team