Trades and Transactions, 2022 Edition

KnixtapeH20 · Post #1101 » by **KnixtapeH20** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:45 am

F N 11 wrote:

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But but Taj Gibson

Lmao young boy fouled the **** outta him but damn he got up there lol

Monk1718 · Post #1102 » by **Monk1718** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:52 am

KnixtapeH20 wrote:
F N 11 wrote:

Read on Twitter

But but Taj Gibson

Lmao young boy fouled the **** outta him but damn he got up there lol

The kid has incredible hops.

Richard4444 · Post #1103 » by **Richard4444** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:07 pm

dukeknicksirish wrote:Knicks get : Wall + Favors
Wall / Reddish / RJ / Randle / Mitch
Rose / IQ / Grimes / Toppin / Favors / Gibson

OKC gets Fournier + Houston 1st (via Brooklyn)

Rockets get Burks + Noel + Walker + rights to Samanic + 2nd rounder from NY (=cap relief)

*With in mind next deadline when we include Favor’s expiring

I do not understand the deal. Wall is not an expiring next season. We will not open cap space.

dukeknicksirish · Post #1104 » by **dukeknicksirish** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:11 pm

Richard4444 wrote:
dukeknicksirish wrote:Knicks get : Wall + Favors
Wall / Reddish / RJ / Randle / Mitch
Rose / IQ / Grimes / Toppin / Favors / Gibson

OKC gets Fournier + Houston 1st (via Brooklyn)

Rockets get Burks + Noel + Walker + rights to Samanic + 2nd rounder from NY (=cap relief)

*With in mind next deadline when we include Favor’s expiring

I do not understand the deal. Wall is not an expiring next season. We will not open cap space.

I said Favors, not Wall .

John Wall is an UFA in 2023 (I guarantee he won't be declining his player option next season)

This simply is a way to undo the horrific signings we made in FA by signing players that play ahead of talent that needs to develop and the overpayment of said players + a gamble on wall to be the lead PG that this team so desperately lacks. If Wall plays hard for his next contract, we win. If Wall is hurt (agian), we get out of our contracts of NOel , Burks and Fournier ahead of schedule

Richard4444 · Post #1105 » by **Richard4444** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:42 pm

dukeknicksirish wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
dukeknicksirish wrote:Knicks get : Wall + Favors
Wall / Reddish / RJ / Randle / Mitch
Rose / IQ / Grimes / Toppin / Favors / Gibson

OKC gets Fournier + Houston 1st (via Brooklyn)

Rockets get Burks + Noel + Walker + rights to Samanic + 2nd rounder from NY (=cap relief)

*With in mind next deadline when we include Favor’s expiring

I do not understand the deal. Wall is not an expiring next season. We will not open cap space.

I said Favors, not Wall .

John Wall is an UFA in 2023 (I guarantee he won't be declining his player option next season)

This simply is a way to undo the horrific signings we made in FA by signing players that play ahead of talent that needs to develop and the overpayment of said players + a gamble on wall to be the lead PG that this team so desperately lacks. If Wall plays hard for his next contract, we win. If Wall is hurt (agian), we get out of our contracts of NOel , Burks and Fournier ahead of schedule

1) Why Houston would pay a first to get rid of Wall getting other vets if they want to tank this season and the next one?

2) Favors (10M) for Evan (17M) does not work.

3) Burks/Noel/Walker (27M) for Wall (42M) does not work.

4) I do not think Wall would be so great for us. Injury-prone, bad shooter, bad short-term approach. We would lose depth and not improve very much if any. The silver lining would be get rid of Evan third year. But I think there are other better deals to make.

dukeknicksirish · Post #1106 » by **dukeknicksirish** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:29 pm

Richard4444 wrote:
dukeknicksirish wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
I do not understand the deal. Wall is not an expiring next season. We will not open cap space.

I said Favors, not Wall .

John Wall is an UFA in 2023 (I guarantee he won't be declining his player option next season)

This simply is a way to undo the horrific signings we made in FA by signing players that play ahead of talent that needs to develop and the overpayment of said players + a gamble on wall to be the lead PG that this team so desperately lacks. If Wall plays hard for his next contract, we win. If Wall is hurt (agian), we get out of our contracts of NOel , Burks and Fournier ahead of schedule

1) Why Houston would pay a first to get rid of Wall getting other vets if they want to tank this season and the next one?

2) Favors (10M) for Evan (17M) does not work.

3) Burks/Noel/Walker (27M) for Wall (42M) does not work.

4) I do not think Wall would be so great for us. Injury-prone, bad shooter, bad short-term approach. We would lose depth and not improve very much if any. The silver lining would be get rid of Evan third year. But I think there are other better deals to make.

Trade machine disagrees . Does work financially

Richard4444 · Post #1107 » by **Richard4444** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:14 pm

Richard4444 wrote:
dukeknicksirish wrote:Knicks get : Wall + Favors
Wall / Reddish / RJ / Randle / Mitch
Rose / IQ / Grimes / Toppin / Favors / Gibson

OKC gets Fournier + Houston 1st (via Brooklyn)

Rockets get Burks + Noel + Walker + rights to Samanic + 2nd rounder from NY (=cap relief)

*With in mind next deadline when we include Favor’s expiring

I do not understand the deal. Wall is not an expiring next season. We will not open cap space.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yd9c57xo

dukeknicksirish · Post #1108 » by **dukeknicksirish** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:17 pm

Richard4444 wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
dukeknicksirish wrote:Knicks get : Wall + Favors
Wall / Reddish / RJ / Randle / Mitch
Rose / IQ / Grimes / Toppin / Favors / Gibson

OKC gets Fournier + Houston 1st (via Brooklyn)

Rockets get Burks + Noel + Walker + rights to Samanic + 2nd rounder from NY (=cap relief)

*With in mind next deadline when we include Favor’s expiring

I do not understand the deal. Wall is not an expiring next season. We will not open cap space.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yd9c57xo

NBA trade machine , not ESPN , worked for me.

Edit: just tried again and it worked

DowNY · Post #1109 » by **DowNY** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 7:19 pm

Blazers bout to build with Anfernee Simons. I’m sure they’ll find a taker for CJ. Let’s take advantage of Dame being hurt and having a lackluster season prior to being hurt.
Dame & Larry Nance Jr for Julius, Fournier, IQ, Obi, Jericho Sims, Kemba & picks.
$55M out, $50M in.
Extend Mitch. Use the $10M MLE on someone useful and hope RJ & Cam are ready for expanded roles.

Dame / D Rose / Deuce
RJ / Grimes
Cam / Burks
Nance Jr / MLE player
Mitch / Noel / Taj

thebuzzardman · Post #1110 » by **thebuzzardman** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 7:32 pm

Dame > Julius
Nance Jr > Obi
Fournier is an overpaid JAG
IQ is a shooting guard that can't shoot, but undersized
Sims jumps but so what
Kemba is washed
Portland might want picks since Knicks capable of imploding to 20 wins at any time

DowNY · Post #1111 » by **DowNY** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 7:46 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Dame > Julius
Nance Jr > Obi
Fournier is an overpaid JAG
IQ is a shooting guard that can't shoot, but undersized
Sims jumps but so what
Kemba is washed
Portland might want picks since Knicks capable of imploding to 20 wins at any time

Dame is the best player in the deal, there’s never equal value in a trade for those type of players.
Julius still a former All star and young. Small market might be best for him or they can flip him later.
They can flip Fournier eventually.
Kemba is salary filler & a name.
Obi is still young and exciting with his dunks. Might be unlocked with Anfernee Simons.
IQ cooked the Blazers before. Good enough prospect for them to try and develop more. Best off ball & will be that with Simons.
Sims just an added prospect to the deal.
Picks will be the coup.

Better get than what the Rockets got for Harden, for sure.

Post #1112 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:24 pm

This guy Morey :lol:

Read on Twitter

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Post #1113 » by **mpharris36** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:26 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:This guy Morey

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Morey is a dope right now. He has no leverage and Embiid health can go at anytime. He has played himself and this market.

Right now he is an MVP candidate and healthy...you have to get him help now because there might not be a next year.

8516knicks · Post #1114 » by **8516knicks** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:31 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:This guy Morey

Read on Twitter
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when it reaches 120 there may be a Knick on the list. Maybe. Okay, probably not. :wink:

Richard4444 · Post #1115 » by **Richard4444** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:32 pm

DowNY wrote:Blazers bout to build with Anfernee Simons. I’m sure they’ll find a taker for CJ. Let’s take advantage of Dame being hurt and having a lackluster season prior to being hurt.
Dame & Larry Nance Jr for Julius, Fournier, IQ, Obi, Jericho Sims, Kemba & picks.
$55M out, $50M in.
Extend Mitch. Use the $10M MLE on someone useful and hope RJ & Cam are ready for expanded roles.

Dame / D Rose / Deuce
RJ / Grimes
Cam / Burks
Nance Jr / MLE player
Mitch / Noel / Taj

1)Portland need tô tank If they trade Dame. You have tô get another team tô send Randle.

2)Dame would be the worst think that could have happen tô us. Without Randle It will be even worse. Dame is losing efficiency, atleticism and durability and about tô get a 250/5 super Max contract. Getting Dame is a huge risk. Only makes sense getting him If you get a contender favorite team with the trade.We would get a roster worse than Portland relying on RJ, Cam and Grimes fast evolution. Lillard Will be a corpse when these 3 breaks out.

Richard4444 · Post #1116 » by **Richard4444** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 8:55 pm

Knickkilla wrote:I wish I could agree with you here Bro, but this report is coming from Shams Charania, and it states that the Kings informed Fox's Agent that they are not trading him at all along with not trading Tyrese Haliburton, so Randle to Kings is Dead

Read on Twitter

Kings still have pick + fillers and Devion. The Randle trade is still possible.

I know its not probable the Front Office chosing to downgrade the roster by Trading Randle. But It could be easier way tô clear cap space tô add a real star without give away all the assets.

Dont ler the dream die

thebuzzardman · Post #1117 » by **thebuzzardman** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:17 pm

Trade Mitch for Brunson and let his new contract be their headache, as Brunson's will be for the Knicks.
Throw in a 2nd rounder if you have to.

Then trade Noel, Mav's pick, IQ and whatever makes the money work for Turner.

Free up playing time for Cam who is better than IQ anyway.
Let McBride take any backup PG minutes
Keep Grimes

Start Turner and convert Sims to a full time player as the backup. Or just make do with Taj and however many games Sims is allowed to play.

Brunson/McBride
Fourskinier/Grimes
RJ/Cam
Randle/Obi
Turner/Sims/Taj

Trade Rose to a contender to recoup a 1st round pick
Trade Kemba for some salary back and 2nd rounder
Trade Burks for some salary back and a pick

Trust me. No one will really miss Mitch or IQ.
Well, Shamms will, but he'll get over it.

spree2kawhi · Post #1118 » by **spree2kawhi** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:32 pm

DowNY wrote:Blazers bout to build with Anfernee Simons. I’m sure they’ll find a taker for CJ. Let’s take advantage of Dame being hurt and having a lackluster season prior to being hurt.
Dame & Larry Nance Jr for Julius, Fournier, IQ, Obi, Jericho Sims, Kemba & picks.
$55M out, $50M in.
Extend Mitch. Use the $10M MLE on someone useful and hope RJ & Cam are ready for expanded roles.

Dame / D Rose / Deuce
RJ / Grimes
Cam / Burks
Nance Jr / MLE player
Mitch / Noel / Taj

We have nothing to offer Portland. You offer Fournier, Kemba, mfKing Julius and Sims? :lol:

Imagine Portland looking at that offer.

DowNY · Post #1119 » by **DowNY** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:43 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
DowNY wrote:Blazers bout to build with Anfernee Simons. I’m sure they’ll find a taker for CJ. Let’s take advantage of Dame being hurt and having a lackluster season prior to being hurt.
Dame & Larry Nance Jr for Julius, Fournier, IQ, Obi, Jericho Sims, Kemba & picks.
$55M out, $50M in.
Extend Mitch. Use the $10M MLE on someone useful and hope RJ & Cam are ready for expanded roles.

Dame / D Rose / Deuce
RJ / Grimes
Cam / Burks
Nance Jr / MLE player
Mitch / Noel / Taj

We have nothing to offer Portland. You offer Fournier, Kemba, mfKing Julius and Sims?

Imagine Portland looking at that offer.

You left out the main parts, the draft picks.
When a star is traded, when do the return outside the picks do anything for the team trading the star?

spree2kawhi · Post #1120 » by **spree2kawhi** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:45 pm

DowNY wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:
DowNY wrote:Blazers bout to build with Anfernee Simons. I’m sure they’ll find a taker for CJ. Let’s take advantage of Dame being hurt and having a lackluster season prior to being hurt.
Dame & Larry Nance Jr for Julius, Fournier, IQ, Obi, Jericho Sims, Kemba & picks.
$55M out, $50M in.
Extend Mitch. Use the $10M MLE on someone useful and hope RJ & Cam are ready for expanded roles.

Dame / D Rose / Deuce
RJ / Grimes
Cam / Burks
Nance Jr / MLE player
Mitch / Noel / Taj

We have nothing to offer Portland. You offer Fournier, Kemba, mfKing Julius and Sims?

Imagine Portland looking at that offer.

You left out the main parts, the draft picks.
When a star is traded, when do the return outside the picks do anything for the team trading the star?

You just can’t accept such trash if you’re Portland. You know that. We don’t have what it takes.