Reeko wrote:Badonkadonk wrote:Reeko wrote:Go read the other thread after reading this one, and tell me that the same conversations are happening. They're not.
What is stupid though, is having the same circular arguments with people you disagree with, instead of having constructive ones in another thread with more like minded posters.
If the objective is to further entrench people in meaningless and divisive camps, then you are 100% correct.
It's an overreach to police which threads people can participate in when the discourse isn't personal or inflammatory to individuals.
The whole reason why the other thread was created is because discussions in this one were turning personal and/or inflammatory. Like I said in the OP of the PWO thread, people can post in either thread in good faith.
People are talking about two totally different directions they want to see the team go in, and for the most part they've been happy to do it.
Here's the problem - moderators have allowed labels like "Team Mediocre" to persist in the first place. That's perhaps the single largest contributor to the baiting that has happened. It's a misnomer - nobody wants that label, it doesn't even make sense and the great irony is that most of the people who are eager to use it have no tangible or defensible method of "tanking", so it's not even symbolic of a philosophy or stance.
The whole thing has become ridiculous, as you even have people on "both sides" who might like the same specific plan (eg. team competes until trade deadline and then rests as much as the league will allow before fining) but who now identify with sides.
And here's the kicker - you can't contain it, because of things like the game threads, where people who "want to tank" (again whatever that means) are openly cheering for losses and any fan who might be happy about a win must want to "treadmill" or be ignorant about the "big picture" (that part is especially laughable).