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TwolvesFanRome wrote:Hi all guys, here in Italy rumors are starting to circulate about an interest in Westbrook...How true can it be? In my opinion, nothing.
Mattya wrote:Ibaka should be our target to help the interior defense. Not someone you have to commit a lot to anymore. Shoots well enough from outside(especially this season). Plus a veteran who has played a role with other stars who take a lot of shots.
TwolvesFanRome wrote:Hi all guys, here in Italy rumors are starting to circulate about an interest in Westbrook...
TwolvesFanRome wrote:Hi all guys, here in Italy rumors are starting to circulate about an interest in Westbrook...
fattymcgee wrote:TwolvesFanRome wrote:Hi all guys, here in Italy rumors are starting to circulate about an interest in Westbrook...
Someone is blowing smoke up your a$$.
Note30 wrote:Murray+Poeltl for Prince, Beasley, Reid+this year's pick and a swap next year.
Okogie, Layman, Bolmaro + 3 seconds for Josh Hart
Murray/Dlo/Edwards/Vando/Towns
Bev/Nowell/Hart/McDaniels/Poetl
Given how deep we need to be with injuries I think having guys like Hart and Murray who can run multiple positions and Poetl as a true center could go a long way.
Jailblazers7 wrote:I’m a Sixers fan but recently moved to Minneapolis and have really fallen in love with this team after going to a few games and getting to watch them regularly.
If I were Gupta, I’d probably avoid making any deals before the deadline (unless some too good to refuse deal comes along). Let this young core continue to develop and get some playoff experience. The playoffs have a way of highlighting a teams needs and accelerating player development. Plus, if a guy like Naz shines for a game or two in a playoff setting he dramatically increases his perceived value across the league and could lead to a nice S&T deal or solidifies his place on the team long-term.
winforlose wrote:Jailblazers7 wrote:I’m a Sixers fan but recently moved to Minneapolis and have really fallen in love with this team after going to a few games and getting to watch them regularly.
If I were Gupta, I’d probably avoid making any deals before the deadline (unless some too good to refuse deal comes along). Let this young core continue to develop and get some playoff experience. The playoffs have a way of highlighting a teams needs and accelerating player development. Plus, if a guy like Naz shines for a game or two in a playoff setting he dramatically increases his perceived value across the league and could lead to a nice S&T deal or solidifies his place on the team long-term.
I see why you think that way, I just disagree. Between our young guys getting paid in the near future and concerns that KAT might leave soon if we don’t climb high enough fast enough, I think at least one big trade is mandatory. Getting a 20/10 big would take a lot of pressure off of KAT and fix our rebounding problems, (we are one of the worst defensive rebounding teams in the league.) Moreover, given the volume of 3s we take, having another big who can shoot the 3 and defend the paint when KAT is high walling is essential. Turner is one guy who fits that bill (though his rebounding is concerning,) my personal preference is either Christian Wood or Julius Randle. But there are other interesting bigs who certainly help.
minimus wrote:winforlose wrote:Jailblazers7 wrote:I’m a Sixers fan but recently moved to Minneapolis and have really fallen in love with this team after going to a few games and getting to watch them regularly.
If I were Gupta, I’d probably avoid making any deals before the deadline (unless some too good to refuse deal comes along). Let this young core continue to develop and get some playoff experience. The playoffs have a way of highlighting a teams needs and accelerating player development. Plus, if a guy like Naz shines for a game or two in a playoff setting he dramatically increases his perceived value across the league and could lead to a nice S&T deal or solidifies his place on the team long-term.
I see why you think that way, I just disagree. Between our young guys getting paid in the near future and concerns that KAT might leave soon if we don’t climb high enough fast enough, I think at least one big trade is mandatory. Getting a 20/10 big would take a lot of pressure off of KAT and fix our rebounding problems, (we are one of the worst defensive rebounding teams in the league.) Moreover, given the volume of 3s we take, having another big who can shoot the 3 and defend the paint when KAT is high walling is essential. Turner is one guy who fits that bill (though his rebounding is concerning,) my personal preference is either Christian Wood or Julius Randle. But there are other interesting bigs who certainly help.
I see your obsession with oversized frontcourt, I just disagree. Let's say we have 100 USD to spend, you want to spend 100 USD to buy a second big such as Wood or Randle. And bring size. However, I don't see how high volume shooting big can really improve our offense without taking shots from Towns-Edwards-DLo trio. And to be honest neither Wood nor Randle are good shooters, high volume yes. But I would be interested in bringing here Ben Simmons, because all his strengths compliment our core well: he can pass, he can rebound, he can defend and finish at rim. Vando proved that we can be elite offense with one non shooter. However, I wouldn't spend all 100 USD on Simmons. I think we can bring defensive minded backup big for 20 USD (Theis), get a PoA defender for 50 USD (Melton, D.White) and a backup power forward for 30 USD (Brandon Clarke, Nance Jr, RoCo). These moves would give us a lot of depth and flexibility.
winforlose wrote:I see why you think that way, I just disagree. Between our young guys getting paid in the near future and concerns that KAT might leave soon if we don’t climb high enough fast enough, I think at least one big trade is mandatory. Getting a 20/10 big would take a lot of pressure off of KAT and fix our rebounding problems, (we are one of the worst defensive rebounding teams in the league.) Moreover, given the volume of 3s we take, having another big who can shoot the 3 and defend the paint when KAT is high walling is essential. Turner is one guy who fits that bill (though his rebounding is concerning,) my personal preference is either Christian Wood or Julius Randle. But there are other interesting bigs who certainly help.
winforlose wrote:minimus wrote:winforlose wrote:
I see why you think that way, I just disagree. Between our young guys getting paid in the near future and concerns that KAT might leave soon if we don’t climb high enough fast enough, I think at least one big trade is mandatory. Getting a 20/10 big would take a lot of pressure off of KAT and fix our rebounding problems, (we are one of the worst defensive rebounding teams in the league.) Moreover, given the volume of 3s we take, having another big who can shoot the 3 and defend the paint when KAT is high walling is essential. Turner is one guy who fits that bill (though his rebounding is concerning,) my personal preference is either Christian Wood or Julius Randle. But there are other interesting bigs who certainly help.
I see your obsession with oversized frontcourt, I just disagree. Let's say we have 100 USD to spend, you want to spend 100 USD to buy a second big such as Wood or Randle. And bring size. However, I don't see how high volume shooting big can really improve our offense without taking shots from Towns-Edwards-DLo trio. And to be honest neither Wood nor Randle are good shooters, high volume yes. But I would be interested in bringing here Ben Simmons, because all his strengths compliment our core well: he can pass, he can rebound, he can defend and finish at rim. Vando proved that we can be elite offense with one non shooter. However, I wouldn't spend all 100 USD on Simmons. I think we can bring defensive minded backup big for 20 USD (Theis), get a PoA defender for 50 USD (Melton, D.White) and a backup power forward for 30 USD (Brandon Clarke, Nance Jr, RoCo). These moves would give us a lot of depth and flexibility.
1. When KAT is out we are bottom 5 team in the west. If we don’t add another capable big this is likely to remain the case for years to come.
2. We are near the bottom in defensive rebounding. That is a recipe for disaster. Look at the last game. We got killed in 2nd chance points and had they played any real defense the Nets probably beat us.
3. Simmons cannot play with V8, and moving V8 to the bench will exacerbate our rebounding issues. Also Simmons hasn’t played or practiced since the playoffs last year, he will be out of shape. Not to mention the mental health issues and long term bad contract. V8 costs roughly 4.5 mil per year compared to a max Simmons.
4. Without another big our defensive scheme will fail. Since January 3rd we have been 17th in defense. We give up open corner 3s to everyone because our scheme has a serious flaw. Best way to fix that flaw is a big man down low.
5. Wood and Randle are the best players on bad teams. This means increased defensive focus. Playing in a lineup with KAT, Ant, and Dlo means more open looks thus higher percentages. Also, having another big time scorer play with Dlo and Nowell in the second unit means more consistent scoring when KAT is on the bench.
6. Pretend we get Randle or Wood, they would spend time with the second unit and get shots from Beasley, Reid, and whoever else we trade away to get them. Also, even if Ant, and Dlo take 2 or 3 less shots per game, what does it matter if someone with as good or better shooting percentages get those shots wide open. More offensive weapons means more strain on the defense. Beasley on a good night proves my theory.
Baseline81 wrote:winforlose wrote:I see why you think that way, I just disagree. Between our young guys getting paid in the near future and concerns that KAT might leave soon if we don’t climb high enough fast enough, I think at least one big trade is mandatory. Getting a 20/10 big would take a lot of pressure off of KAT and fix our rebounding problems, (we are one of the worst defensive rebounding teams in the league.) Moreover, given the volume of 3s we take, having another big who can shoot the 3 and defend the paint when KAT is high walling is essential. Turner is one guy who fits that bill (though his rebounding is concerning,) my personal preference is either Christian Wood or Julius Randle. But there are other interesting bigs who certainly help.
Where has this been substantiated?
Several posters have been throwing this around, but Towns, to my knowledge, has never hinted at a move.
winforlose wrote:Baseline81 wrote:winforlose wrote:I see why you think that way, I just disagree. Between our young guys getting paid in the near future and concerns that KAT might leave soon if we don’t climb high enough fast enough, I think at least one big trade is mandatory. Getting a 20/10 big would take a lot of pressure off of KAT and fix our rebounding problems, (we are one of the worst defensive rebounding teams in the league.) Moreover, given the volume of 3s we take, having another big who can shoot the 3 and defend the paint when KAT is high walling is essential. Turner is one guy who fits that bill (though his rebounding is concerning,) my personal preference is either Christian Wood or Julius Randle. But there are other interesting bigs who certainly help.
Where has this been substantiated?
Several posters have been throwing this around, but Towns, to my knowledge, has never hinted at a move.
Aside from the free KAT stuff (tweet like included,) there has been a lot of attention paid to KAT’s frustration level. He has a few after game press conferences were he sounds like he is ready to leave. He also was deeply unhappy a few years back which prompted us to bring in Dlo. Even if you are correct and the speculation is just noise, KAT could likely make more money in adds in a big city and get the national attention young athletes crave by leaving. The best way to keep young players in small markets is by winning and making the playoffs.
Towns likens staying in Minnesota with his decision to continue to play for the Dominican Republic national team. He said he’s had opportunities to leave the Dominicans, his mother’s homeland, and reclassify to play with Team USA, which could use a talented big man. But that would be the easy route in his eyes. “I like taking the hard route. I like going the more rewarding route,” he said. “I love being with the Dominican Republic national team. There’s a lot of things they haven’t done, and I’m able to possibly change that. The challenge is what I’ve always strived for.”
“I'm a very loyal guy to a fault," Towns said. "I would love to finish my career here in Minnesota. ... I want to build something great here. I want to build a legacy in Minnesota."
“My chips are all on the table, so it’s up to the Wolves, you know? If they give me the chance to stay there I fa’ sho would take it. The ball is in their court.”
shrink wrote:winforlose wrote:Baseline81 wrote:Where has this been substantiated?
Several posters have been throwing this around, but Towns, to my knowledge, has never hinted at a move.
Aside from the free KAT stuff (tweet like included,) there has been a lot of attention paid to KAT’s frustration level. He has a few after game press conferences were he sounds like he is ready to leave. He also was deeply unhappy a few years back which prompted us to bring in Dlo. Even if you are correct and the speculation is just noise, KAT could likely make more money in adds in a big city and get the national attention young athletes crave by leaving. The best way to keep young players in small markets is by winning and making the playoffs.
KAT has been frustrated that no matter what loyal things he says about MIN, that gets ignored by the major markets because it doesn’t generate clicks. Like all the stars in non-major markets, he suffers through this constantly. I’m sure you’ve seen him laugh it off, but often he gets angry.
For example, here are just some from the last year:Towns likens staying in Minnesota with his decision to continue to play for the Dominican Republic national team. He said he’s had opportunities to leave the Dominicans, his mother’s homeland, and reclassify to play with Team USA, which could use a talented big man. But that would be the easy route in his eyes. “I like taking the hard route. I like going the more rewarding route,” he said. “I love being with the Dominican Republic national team. There’s a lot of things they haven’t done, and I’m able to possibly change that. The challenge is what I’ve always strived for.”
And“I'm a very loyal guy to a fault," Towns said. "I would love to finish my career here in Minnesota. ... I want to build something great here. I want to build a legacy in Minnesota."
And“My chips are all on the table, so it’s up to the Wolves, you know? If they give me the chance to stay there I fa’ sho would take it. The ball is in their court.”
The problem is, the aggregators look for anything that can be misinterpreted to get their readers to dream KAT would join their team.
winforlose wrote:shrink wrote:winforlose wrote:
Aside from the free KAT stuff (tweet like included,) there has been a lot of attention paid to KAT’s frustration level. He has a few after game press conferences were he sounds like he is ready to leave. He also was deeply unhappy a few years back which prompted us to bring in Dlo. Even if you are correct and the speculation is just noise, KAT could likely make more money in adds in a big city and get the national attention young athletes crave by leaving. The best way to keep young players in small markets is by winning and making the playoffs.
KAT has been frustrated that no matter what loyal things he says about MIN, that gets ignored by the major markets because it doesn’t generate clicks. Like all the stars in non-major markets, he suffers through this constantly. I’m sure you’ve seen him laugh it off, but often he gets angry.
For example, here are just some from the last year:Towns likens staying in Minnesota with his decision to continue to play for the Dominican Republic national team. He said he’s had opportunities to leave the Dominicans, his mother’s homeland, and reclassify to play with Team USA, which could use a talented big man. But that would be the easy route in his eyes. “I like taking the hard route. I like going the more rewarding route,” he said. “I love being with the Dominican Republic national team. There’s a lot of things they haven’t done, and I’m able to possibly change that. The challenge is what I’ve always strived for.”
And“I'm a very loyal guy to a fault," Towns said. "I would love to finish my career here in Minnesota. ... I want to build something great here. I want to build a legacy in Minnesota."
And“My chips are all on the table, so it’s up to the Wolves, you know? If they give me the chance to stay there I fa’ sho would take it. The ball is in their court.”
The problem is, the aggregators look for anything that can be misinterpreted to get their readers to dream KAT would join their team.
I have seen all of these, but they don’t come with any kind of contractual obligation not to leave. What if we don’t extend Dlo, or he gets engaged to his GF and she wants to live on the west coast and pursue reality tv again. KG has talked about being glad he left, and if we don’t accomplish anything significant in the next 3 years we will be even less accomplished then the KG wolves. I don’t think we can take it for granted that KAT will stay just because he says he wants to with multiple years on his deal.
winforlose wrote:fattymcgee wrote:TwolvesFanRome wrote:Hi all guys, here in Italy rumors are starting to circulate about an interest in Westbrook...
Someone is blowing smoke up your a$$.
Where there is smoke there is fire. A better phraseologies is someone is trying to sell ice to Eskimos.
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