Tank World Order (7.0)

[will]

One thing worth noting, Hornet's are apparently on a 8 game losing streak when Hayward doesn't play. That along with the early game ejection they're not looking as good as they could be.

That streak extended as of now. Game.

Blouses.

[KL78192020]

FVV exposed tonight!

[Los_29]

Trade Scottie and Fred. Build around Gary and Pascal.

[sbsat]

Two:

If raps win: awesome, proves fvv sucks. Or fake win, pj washington was out.

If raps lose: tank!

[HumbleRen]

FVV exposed tonight!

Goes both ways, the team also defers when FVV is on the court, barely moving when they don't have the ball. They can keep the ball moving like they did tonight with FVV easily imo.

[Madhouse]

Trade Scottie and Fred. Build around Gary and Pascal.

what are we getting in return?

[Los_29]

FVV exposed tonight!

Goes both ways, the team also defers when FVV is on the court, barely moving when they don't have the ball. They can keep the ball moving like they did tonight with FVV easily imo.

I think you're overthinking this. We shot nearly 50% from three, 52% from the field. Without Fred and Scottie, we'd lose against this Charlotte team more often than not. However, tonight we just made our shots. On Sunday, we'd beat that Portland team more often than not. We just didn't hit our shots. That's the nature of the NBA. It's why we saw a shorthanded Pacers team beat the Warriors.

[Madhouse]

Crazy how much better the ball movement is when Fred doesn’t play

Time to sell high

[HumbleRen]

FVV exposed tonight!

Goes both ways, the team also defers when FVV is on the court, barely moving when they don't have the ball. They can keep the ball moving like they did tonight with FVV easily imo.

I think you're overthinking this. We shot nearly 50% from three, 52% from the field. Without Fred and Scottie, we'd lose against this Charlotte team more often than not. However, tonight we just made our shots. On Sunday, we'd beat that Portland team more often than not. We just didn't hit our shots. That's the nature of the NBA. It's why we saw a shorthanded Pacers team beat the Warriors.

Don't look at the numbers, just use your eyes lol. Our ball movement was completely different, we don't normally play that way.

Our offence against Portland was very stagnant.

[TRik]

Crazy how much better the ball movement is when Fred doesn’t play

Time to sell high

Totally. On. Board.

His value will never be higher.

[TRik]

FVV exposed tonight!

Goes both ways, the team also defers when FVV is on the court, barely moving when they don't have the ball. They can keep the ball moving like they did tonight with FVV easily imo.

I think you're overthinking this. We shot nearly 50% from three, 52% from the field. Without Fred and Scottie, we'd lose against this Charlotte team more often than not. However, tonight we just made our shots. On Sunday, we'd beat that Portland team more often than not. We just didn't hit our shots. That's the nature of the NBA. It's why we saw a shorthanded Pacers team beat the Warriors.

Yeah, definitely truth to hitting shots and not. But surely you can also concede the team looks better with more ball movement and assists.

[JN]

For fans of Jabari Smith or college basketball, #1 Auburn is in a battle against a middling Missouri team (up 1 with 3 minutes to go).
Jabari has struggled tonight shooting 2-15, but perhaps he comes up with something clutch to close.

[Ref_from_hell]

Goes both ways, the team also defers when FVV is on the court, barely moving when they don't have the ball. They can keep the ball moving like they did tonight with FVV easily imo.

I think you're overthinking this. We shot nearly 50% from three, 52% from the field. Without Fred and Scottie, we'd lose against this Charlotte team more often than not. However, tonight we just made our shots. On Sunday, we'd beat that Portland team more often than not. We just didn't hit our shots. That's the nature of the NBA. It's why we saw a shorthanded Pacers team beat the Warriors.

Yeah, definitely truth to hitting shots and not. But surely you can also concede the team looks better with more ball movement and assists.

It's also true that it's just one game and we were 4-18 without him going into this game over the past two seasons. Not to mention the ridiculous point differential with him on and off the court this year. So do we just wash that away?

Don't get me wrong we played great tonight and the ball was humming but people are jumping to ridiculous conclusions over a one-game sample size

[HumbleRen]

I think you're overthinking this. We shot nearly 50% from three, 52% from the field. Without Fred and Scottie, we'd lose against this Charlotte team more often than not. However, tonight we just made our shots. On Sunday, we'd beat that Portland team more often than not. We just didn't hit our shots. That's the nature of the NBA. It's why we saw a shorthanded Pacers team beat the Warriors.

Yeah, definitely truth to hitting shots and not. But surely you can also concede the team looks better with more ball movement and assists.

It's also true that it's just one game and we were 4-18 without him going into this game over the past two seasons. Not to mention the ridiculous point differential with him on and off the court this year. So do we just wash that away?

Don't get me wrong we played great tonight and the ball was humming but people are jumping to ridiculous conclusions over a one-game sample size

I don't care for the results, I'm just talking about the process. I'm not expecting this team to win alot of games, I just want them to play the right way.

[Los_29]

Goes both ways, the team also defers when FVV is on the court, barely moving when they don't have the ball. They can keep the ball moving like they did tonight with FVV easily imo.

I think you're overthinking this. We shot nearly 50% from three, 52% from the field. Without Fred and Scottie, we'd lose against this Charlotte team more often than not. However, tonight we just made our shots. On Sunday, we'd beat that Portland team more often than not. We just didn't hit our shots. That's the nature of the NBA. It's why we saw a shorthanded Pacers team beat the Warriors.

Don't look at the numbers, just use your eyes lol. Our ball movement was completely different, we don't normally play that way.

Our offence against Portland was very stagnant.

There is no doubt we played a sloppy, uninspired game against Portland. That's for sure. But ball movement looks a lot better when shots are falling and the opposing team isn't playing any defense. Against Portland, 4 of our starters were absolutely atrocious. Very rarely do you have games like that.

We all know what kind of impact Fred makes on this team. A Dalano Banton/Malachi Flynn point guard duo is unlikely to be this productive over the course of a season given what we have seen from them this year.

It's just what this message board does though. Gets overly excited about wins and overreacts to losses.

[pingpongrac]

Goes both ways, the team also defers when FVV is on the court, barely moving when they don't have the ball. They can keep the ball moving like they did tonight with FVV easily imo.

I think you're overthinking this. We shot nearly 50% from three, 52% from the field. Without Fred and Scottie, we'd lose against this Charlotte team more often than not. However, tonight we just made our shots. On Sunday, we'd beat that Portland team more often than not. We just didn't hit our shots. That's the nature of the NBA. It's why we saw a shorthanded Pacers team beat the Warriors.

Don't look at the numbers, just use your eyes lol. Our ball movement was completely different, we don't normally play that way.

Our offence against Portland was very stagnant.

It was pretty stagnant against Portland, but we still generated a ton of open shots on the perimeter especially. Against the Blazers, OG+GTJ+Boucher went 7/18 on open threes (8/23 overall) and tonight they went 10/20 overall. Additionally, Banton+Flynn+Yuta came into this game shooting a combined 2/11 on open threes in January while they went 5/8 in non-garbage time tonight. If we shot like we did against the Blazers, there likely wouldn't be all of this ball movement talk because people only tend to see the final result (missed shots) and forget about all of the good that came before.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

They never luhved FVV to begin with, refs.

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[KL78192020]

I think you're overthinking this. We shot nearly 50% from three, 52% from the field. Without Fred and Scottie, we'd lose against this Charlotte team more often than not. However, tonight we just made our shots. On Sunday, we'd beat that Portland team more often than not. We just didn't hit our shots. That's the nature of the NBA. It's why we saw a shorthanded Pacers team beat the Warriors.

Don't look at the numbers, just use your eyes lol. Our ball movement was completely different, we don't normally play that way.

Our offence against Portland was very stagnant.

It was pretty stagnant against Portland, but we still generated a ton of open shots on the perimeter especially. Against the Blazers, OG+GTJ+Boucher went 7/18 on open threes (8/23 overall) and tonight they went 10/20 overall. Additionally, Banton+Flynn+Yuta came into this game shooting a combined 2/11 on open threes in January while they went 5/8 in non-garbage time tonight. If we shot like we did against the Blazers, there likely wouldn't be all of this ball movement talk because people only tend to see the final result (missed shots) and forget about all of the good that came before.

But they are making those shots because there is much better ball movement without FVV. Not like FVV running around dribbling the ball for 20 seconds and someone else has to take a bailout shot and misses. Thats why FVV causes issues, tonight was one of the best displays of offense the team has shown all season.

[HumbleRen]

I think you're overthinking this. We shot nearly 50% from three, 52% from the field. Without Fred and Scottie, we'd lose against this Charlotte team more often than not. However, tonight we just made our shots. On Sunday, we'd beat that Portland team more often than not. We just didn't hit our shots. That's the nature of the NBA. It's why we saw a shorthanded Pacers team beat the Warriors.

Don't look at the numbers, just use your eyes lol. Our ball movement was completely different, we don't normally play that way.

Our offence against Portland was very stagnant.

There is no doubt we played a sloppy, uninspired game against Portland. That's for sure. But ball movement looks a lot better when shots are falling and the opposing team isn't playing any defense. Against Portland, 4 of our starters were absolutely atrocious. Very rarely do you have games like that.

We all know what kind of impact Fred makes on this team. A Dalano Banton/Malachi Flynn point guard duo is unlikely to be this productive over the course of a season given what we have seen from them this year.

It's just what this message board does though. Gets overly excited about wins and overreacts to losses.

Except, you missed the part where I said this team can have this ball movement with FVV in the line up. It's more of an indictment on the coaches and players around FVV then anything else.

[pingpongrac]

Don't look at the numbers, just use your eyes lol. Our ball movement was completely different, we don't normally play that way.

Our offence against Portland was very stagnant.

It was pretty stagnant against Portland, but we still generated a ton of open shots on the perimeter especially. Against the Blazers, OG+GTJ+Boucher went 7/18 on open threes (8/23 overall) and tonight they went 10/20 overall. Additionally, Banton+Flynn+Yuta came into this game shooting a combined 2/11 on open threes in January while they went 5/8 in non-garbage time tonight. If we shot like we did against the Blazers, there likely wouldn't be all of this ball movement talk because people only tend to see the final result (missed shots) and forget about all of the good that came before.

But they are making those shots because there is much better ball movement without FVV. Not like FVV running around dribbling the ball for 20 seconds and someone else has to take a bailout shot and misses. Thats why FVV causes issues, tonight was one of the best displays of offense the team has shown all season.

Not true. Look at the shots they (OG and GTJ in particular) were missing last game.

OG had four open corner threes generated by FVV/Siakam attracting extra attention (three entirely by FVV driving and passing to the opposite corner) as well as an open above the break three (also generated by an FVV drive) while GTJ had three open corner threes off of good ball movement and three open above the break threes in transition. Out of those 11 great looks, OG and GTJ made 2 shots. They had awful shooting games despite being open for most of their shots with FVV initiating most of the offence. If they hit an extra shot each (and combine to shoot 7/18 rather than 5/18 on threes), we probably win that game.