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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#861 » by mpharris36 » Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:21 pm

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I agree about Judge. Mara did not want to fire him. Judge killed himself.

Of course there is prob talk of the Giants having a Black Coach. There actually could be bad press of having Flores on the Market and not Hiring when many feel he is the best coach out there right now on the market. It would really put a spotlight on this process league wide. NY media says Daboll, but I am sure the Poll nationally is why not Hire Flores he is there for the taking. Most Pundits said he derives a shot in this cycle again. Many considered him not a retread.


What I will say about Flores. He is proven to be a worthy Candidate thats for sure. I want every thing about his hire to be based on Merit personally.


agreed and that is why any of these rules that put speculation that your interviewed or hired a minority just to satify a rule kinda diminishes a lot of these guys work. They put in real time and deserve legit shots (while the intention of the rule is good). The fact people have to ask if its merit based with some is demeaning. I could go on a long tangent but I wont.

I like Flores...I'm not sure I love how the relationship with his GM ended (kinda can't blame him for not liking Tua...Tua is mid tho :lol: )

But Flores also really wanting Watson...I'm not sure Mara can deal with the media attention and his off the field stuff so Flores would have to back off that request.



He is only 40. Thats mad young for an NFL coach who already has 3 years in. He is still learning. By Default Flores HAS to change for the simple fact that THIS would be his dream job. He could basically be Tomlin in NY and be here till forever. It would be so historical for Flores, a Black Kid from Brownsville to be the coach of NY Giants. He would never want to ruin that. He knows he cant rebel against the FO like he did in MIA. He WANTS this. You know that. He wont be pushing the Giants to get Watson. He knows he can't repeat the SAME things he did in MIA. Forget about the Giants, it just wont look good for him. He could kill his coaching career, as you can't work with him.

He has a chance to redeem himself. He knows this, trust me. You dont come from Brownsville and not recognize the opportunity he has right now. I personally expect a killer interview. He will work with Schoen...if he wants to be successful, he HAS to. He understands this in NY. The stakes are waaaaaaaay to high for him. Im sure he will "bend" to be in tune with Schoen.

Flores in Ny will send shockwaves in the NFL. Especially the communities that's just like where he comes from. Alot of inspiration would come from it from these areas.

This wouldn't be the simple hiring of a black coach like in many other places/teams. This would be different. It would be a black head coach of the NY FOOTBALL GIANTS. The positivity that could come from that would he huge.



I do agree that would be huge. And regardless of the color of his skin Flores is qualified for being the HC of the NY FOOTBALL GIANTS. But yes it would be a big moment I do agree.

Imagine that with then Bryce Young or CJ Stroud... :o

I know Geno Smith started for the giants 1 game...but that doesn't count. :lol:
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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#862 » by blueNorange » Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:23 pm

you're all over the place, you say you want the giants to hire the best person out there but that's bs.

all you've done is crap on daboll and pump up flores, you don't want the best hire ... you want brian flores, period -- and you wanted adam peters because he'd hire brian flores.

you've shown your hand many times, you're bias.
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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#863 » by blueNorange » Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:25 pm

flores went threw 3 offensive coordinators and 4 offensive line coaches.

but he's learned from his mistakes he made a month ago, he's a new man ... he's from the bronx, as if that means chit. :lol: new yorkers are stubborn and flores has shown to be a stubborn individual.
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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#865 » by blueNorange » Wed Jan 26, 2022 3:57 am

lol at celebrating maras still having control just because it satisfies your selfish needs
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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#866 » by F N 11 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:41 am

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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#867 » by Juggynaut » Wed Jan 26, 2022 6:34 am

Does Flores remind you guys of Thibs?
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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#868 » by F N 11 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 1:13 pm

Juggynaut wrote:Does Flores remind you guys of Thibs?

Reminds me of Thibs and Joe Judge.
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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

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I think regardless of the offenses he's run, Byron seems like a dude guys are gonna respect a lot

See the video of his O Linemen carrying him down the field so he can play after breaking his leg

He's gonna need to hire good coordinators, but as long as he does, it'll be good

And we need to fire Baalke, but that's looking more and more like it's not gonna happen for some reason, dammit Shad.
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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#871 » by GONYK » Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:16 pm

Schoen presser is non-descript, but it does sound like Kevin Abrams is staying on.

Reporters kept trying to get him to talk about Daboll, but he deflected that a number of times.
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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#872 » by mpharris36 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:28 pm

GONYK wrote:Schoen presser is non-descript, but it does sound like Kevin Abrams is staying on.

Reporters kept trying to get him to talk about Daboll, but he deflected that a number of times.


It seems like he will evaluate everyone but its tough to make wholesale changes with the FO with the Senior Bowl coming up and then the draft in a few months.

Petit is the guy I desperately want gone...and whoever told him we had 11 draft picks instead of 9 :lol: Whoever that is he should be fired too.

It also sounds like DJ will be our QB next year...which I like. I do not want to pick a QB this draft. Its not the draft to invest into a QB. Rather fix our other glaring issues.
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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#873 » by GONYK » Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:32 pm

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GONYK wrote:Schoen presser is non-descript, but it does sound like Kevin Abrams is staying on.

Reporters kept trying to get him to talk about Daboll, but he deflected that a number of times.


It seems like he will evaluate everyone but its tough to make wholesale changes with the FO with the Senior Bowl coming up and then the draft in a few months.

Petit is the guy I desperately want gone...and whoever told him we had 11 draft picks instead of 9 :lol: Whoever that is he should be fired too.

It also sounds like DJ will be our QB next year...which I like. I do not want to pick a QB this draft. Its not the draft to invest into a QB. Rather fix our other glaring issues.



Mara just said it's on the Giants for screwing with DJ's development and they still believe in him.

Mara also just said we aren't trading for Watson, even if Flores turns out to be the guy.
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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

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well damn...we knew that but he just squashed any of that.
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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#875 » by F N 11 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:33 pm

Great conference from Joe. Good straight forward dude who wants to give people a chance if they can follow his vision. Love that he wants GM, Coach, and ownership to have a good relationship. He did not crap on Danny nor did he hype him up. This dude is slick, give him a chance.
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Post#876 » by F N 11 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:34 pm

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well damn...we knew that but he just squashed any of that.

What owner in their right mind would lol? Especially a team like the Giants who has so many holes to fill. Fans just be out here wilding.
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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#877 » by mpharris36 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:34 pm

F N 11 wrote:Great conference from Joe. Good straight forward dude who wants to give people a chance if they can follow his vision. Love that he wants GM, Coach, and ownership to have a good relationship. He did not crap on Danny nor did he hype him up. This dude is slick, give him a chance.


I like the fact you could tell he had some nervs...shows he cares about this job.
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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#878 » by mpharris36 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:36 pm

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GONYK wrote:Schoen presser is non-descript, but it does sound like Kevin Abrams is staying on.

Reporters kept trying to get him to talk about Daboll, but he deflected that a number of times.


It seems like he will evaluate everyone but its tough to make wholesale changes with the FO with the Senior Bowl coming up and then the draft in a few months.

Petit is the guy I desperately want gone...and whoever told him we had 11 draft picks instead of 9 :lol: Whoever that is he should be fired too.

It also sounds like DJ will be our QB next year...which I like. I do not want to pick a QB this draft. Its not the draft to invest into a QB. Rather fix our other glaring issues.



Mara just said it's on the Giants for screwing with DJ's development and they still believe in him.

Mara also just said we aren't trading for Watson, even if Flores turns out to be the guy.


This is very true...everyone knows we have had no offensive line, no run game...and our WR can never stay healthy.

I am not sure DJ is the future QB of the team. But next year will be an evaluation year for Schoen and the coach they hire. They will see who fits and who doesn't. There cap situation is awful so a lot of big name guys will get cut.

It will be a really young roster.
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Re: OT: Official Giants Thread 

Post#879 » by F N 11 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:36 pm

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F N 11 wrote:Great conference from Joe. Good straight forward dude who wants to give people a chance if they can follow his vision. Love that he wants GM, Coach, and ownership to have a good relationship. He did not crap on Danny nor did he hype him up. This dude is slick, give him a chance.


I like the fact you could tell he had some nervs...shows he cares about this job.

It’s a big accomplishment for him and like most hard workers they don’t stop. Love that he wants to develop his own and wants to add leaders who want to lead young players. Complete opposite of what’s here besides Taj and Rose.
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Post#880 » by F N 11 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:38 pm

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It seems like he will evaluate everyone but its tough to make wholesale changes with the FO with the Senior Bowl coming up and then the draft in a few months.

Petit is the guy I desperately want gone...and whoever told him we had 11 draft picks instead of 9 :lol: Whoever that is he should be fired too.

It also sounds like DJ will be our QB next year...which I like. I do not want to pick a QB this draft. Its not the draft to invest into a QB. Rather fix our other glaring issues.



Mara just said it's on the Giants for screwing with DJ's development and they still believe in him.

Mara also just said we aren't trading for Watson, even if Flores turns out to be the guy.


This is very true...everyone knows we have had no offensive line, no run game...and our WR can never stay healthy.

I am not sure DJ is the future QB of the team. But next year will be an evaluation year for Schoen and the coach they hire. They will see who fits and who doesn't. There cap situation is awful so a lot of big name guys will get cut.

It will be a really young roster.


Any time Jones had time he looked elite. Not to mention the offensive coaches were so bad to add to the fact we had no line. Jones is not Allen but he’s one tough SOB. I won’t be mad if he gets a chance.
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