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thebuzzardman · Post #101 » by **thebuzzardman** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 6:43 pm

Grimes has a double impact because he's active and decent to good on defense but also because he's in for Fournier, who is horrible

evevale · Post #102 » by **evevale** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 6:46 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
evevale wrote:what i'd like to see - grimes/rj/cam/obi/sims (unless mitch is fully healthy)

what the fo wants to see - quick/fournier/rj/obi/julius

what we will get - kemba/alec/rj/julius/taj

What julius would like to see:

Elf
julius
julius
julius
julius

elf
reggie*
julius x3

rj, grimes, cam, mitch, obi traded for 5 julius bench unit

KnixtapeH20 · Post #103 » by **KnixtapeH20** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 6:48 pm

moocow007 wrote:
Reign23 wrote:guys please. Grimes will not be the PG and Ryan freaking Arcadiacano won't play at all.
before one of those things happen, thibs might call Kirk Hinrich.

Kirk Hinrich probably would be the Knicks best PG if that were to happen.

Jameer Nelson... Augustine.. Crawford.. . Nate.... Lin... Best... Jalen rose... There's so many pgs and non pgs that could be a facilitator on this roster better than Kemba Walker or Alec Burks.....

Post #104 » by **moocow007** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:14 pm

KnixtapeH20 wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
And they’re trying to add Christian Wood somehow

And you know that Riley will figure out a way to make it happen.

Riley must suck a mean dick. That's the only explanation how he makes the moves he makes

For real. He's playing chess and most of the rest of the leagues front office is failing at playing checkers. :lol:

Oscirus · Post #105 » by **Oscirus** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:15 pm

At this point I'm over slight upgrades at positions that are alright. I want an actual starting pg and there are like maybe 2 people on this team that I wouldn't trade to get one

G_K_F · Post #106 » by **G_K_F** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:26 pm

KnixtapeH20 wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
Reign23 wrote:guys please. Grimes will not be the PG and Ryan freaking Arcadiacano won't play at all.
before one of those things happen, thibs might call Kirk Hinrich.

Kirk Hinrich probably would be the Knicks best PG if that were to happen.

Jameer Nelson... Augustine.. Crawford.. . Nate.... Lin... Best... Jalen rose... There's so many pgs and non pgs that could be a facilitator on this roster better than Kemba Walker or Alec Burks.....

Also would be open to the following:

Jamison Brewer
Jermaine Jackson
Toney Douglas
Chris Duhon
Anthony Carter
Frank Williams
Toure Murry
Tony Wroten
Chason Randle
Ramon Sessions
Elfrid Payton
Jerian Grant
Shane Larkin
Emmanuel Mudiay
Moochie Norris
Jarrett Jack
Howard Eisley
Rick Brunson
Frank Ntilikina
Toby Bailey

Knicksfan1992 · Post #107 » by **Knicksfan1992** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:30 pm

K-DOT wrote:
Knicksfan1992 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Very apropos, as he was the most questionable FA signing of the offseason.

Honestly the Knicks have missed Nerlens a lot. He's undisciplined on defense and can be a bit wild but he's really the only player besides Grimes who causes disruption on that end. Knicks have seemingly forced way more turnovers with him back the last 2 games.

He's flawed but I think him making less than 10 million a year is more than fine given he stays healthy the rest of the way IMO.

How many backup Cs make 10 million a year?

I think he's more of a low end starter in all practicality.

Knicks were a top 5 defense largely because of him last year. He has his flaws but he would start for numerous teams in the league imo

Post #108 » by **dakomish23** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:46 pm

evevale wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
evevale wrote:what i'd like to see - grimes/rj/cam/obi/sims (unless mitch is fully healthy)

what the fo wants to see - quick/fournier/rj/obi/julius

what we will get - kemba/alec/rj/julius/taj

What julius would like to see:

Elf
julius
julius
julius
julius

elf
reggie*
julius x3

rj, grimes, cam, mitch, obi traded for 5 julius bench unit

They def miss Reggie

1594 mins
R. Bullock, .J. Randle, .R. Barrett
110.4 ORTG
106.5 DRTG
3.9 NRTG

Post #109 » by **dakomish23** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:46 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:
K-DOT wrote:
Knicksfan1992 wrote:
Honestly the Knicks have missed Nerlens a lot. He's undisciplined on defense and can be a bit wild but he's really the only player besides Grimes who causes disruption on that end. Knicks have seemingly forced way more turnovers with him back the last 2 games.

He's flawed but I think him making less than 10 million a year is more than fine given he stays healthy the rest of the way IMO.

How many backup Cs make 10 million a year?

I think he's more of a low end starter in all practicality.

Knicks were a top 5 defense largely because of him last year. He has his flaws but he would start for numerous teams in the league imo

I say we test that theory out and put him on the trade market :lol:

louisorr · Post #110 » by **louisorr** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:05 pm

Great we’re all getting healthy. Sounds like a losing streak.
Why is it they only seem “whole” when half the team is out?

BugginOut · Post #111 » by **BugginOut** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:07 pm

RJ always has terrible games against the Heat.

If he actually balls out tonight that will say a lot about his development

Post #112 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:09 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Grimes has a double impact because he's active and decent to good on defense but also because he's in for Fournier, who is horrible

Fournier makes double impact but its the double bad impact

Jeffrey · Post #113 » by **Jeffrey** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:11 pm

Hes_On_Fire wrote:
KnixtapeH20 wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
Kirk Hinrich probably would be the Knicks best PG if that were to happen.

Jameer Nelson... Augustine.. Crawford.. . Nate.... Lin... Best... Jalen rose... There's so many pgs and non pgs that could be a facilitator on this roster better than Kemba Walker or Alec Burks.....

Also would be open to the following:

Jamison Brewer
Jermaine Jackson
Toney Douglas
Chris Duhon
Anthony Carter
Frank Williams
Toure Murry
Tony Wroten
Chason Randle
Ramon Sessions
Elfrid Payton
Jerian Grant
Shane Larkin
Emmanuel Mudiay
Moochie Norris
Jarrett Jack
Howard Eisley
Rick Brunson
Frank Ntilikina
Toby Bailey

What an insane list to not have fans favorite Lavor Postell.

F N 11 · Post #114 » by **F N 11** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:43 pm

Another politics night, we will get slaughtered.

3toheadmelo · Post #115 » by **3toheadmelo** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:46 pm

doesnt randle play well on national tv. maybe he takes the bam match up personal and goes off. hopefully..

Jalen Bluntson · Post #116 » by **Jalen Bluntson** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:48 pm

Thibs don't give a damn how good you play. If you're under 25 and not a top 3 pick...you are lucky to be playing. No matter how bad his vets are playing...they will get the most minutes. Once in a blue moon he will surprise you but...not often enough.

This is one of the better young group of kids I can recall having in a long time. We are going to waste them playing Kemba/Evan/Burks chasing the 12 seed. :lol:

Then trade them away for someone who won't win us a title.

RHODEY · Post #117 » by **RHODEY** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:51 pm

Are We Ther Yet wrote:Thibs don't give a damn how good you play. If you're under 25 and not a top 3 pick...you are lucky to be playing. No matter how bad his vets are playing...they will get the most minutes. Once in a blue moon he will surprise you but...not often enough.

This is one of the better young group of kids I can recall having in a long time. We are going to waste them playing Kemba/Evan/Burks chasing the 12 seed. Then trade them away for someone who won't win us a title.

He's pretty damn stubborn, but maybe not totally...Grimes has been rewarded with minutes lately.

WajaBawl · Post #118 » by **WajaBawl** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:57 pm

RHODEY wrote:
Are We Ther Yet wrote:Thibs don't give a damn how good you play. If you're under 25 and not a top 3 pick...you are lucky to be playing. No matter how bad his vets are playing...they will get the most minutes. Once in a blue moon he will surprise you but...not often enough.

This is one of the better young group of kids I can recall having in a long time. We are going to waste them playing Kemba/Evan/Burks chasing the 12 seed. Then trade them away for someone who won't win us a title.

He's pretty damn stubborn, but maybe not totally...Grimes has been rewarded with minutes lately.

Grimes wouldn't have seen an ounce of daylight if it wasn't for Covid. He'd still riding the end of the bench. Thibs is a joke.

DaGawd · Post #119 » by **DaGawd** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:05 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:doesnt randle play well on national tv. maybe he takes the bam match up personal and goes off. hopefully..

Meant to ask you you live in Miami right? Did you move there from NY?

Jalen Bluntson · Post #120 » by **Jalen Bluntson** » Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:07 pm

RHODEY wrote:
Are We Ther Yet wrote:Thibs don't give a damn how good you play. If you're under 25 and not a top 3 pick...you are lucky to be playing. No matter how bad his vets are playing...they will get the most minutes. Once in a blue moon he will surprise you but...not often enough.

This is one of the better young group of kids I can recall having in a long time. We are going to waste them playing Kemba/Evan/Burks chasing the 12 seed. Then trade them away for someone who won't win us a title.

He's pretty damn stubborn, but maybe not totally...Grimes has been rewarded with minutes lately.

Yeah... he's not totally against kids. He just doesn't give minuets based on performance. It's age and contract first. They get to make as many mistakes and paly as terrible as they want...with little to no consequence. God forbid a kid misses a shot or blows an assignment. They get benched lightning fast for the same scrubby vets NO OTHER TEAM wants. Chasing the 12 seed. This is the team they committed to for 3 years.

Kemba(2)/Rose
Burks
Evan
Randle (5!!!!!!)
Noel

They spent a lot of money on that group. Terrible.