SkyBill40 wrote:magicman1978 wrote:SkyBill40 wrote:So lemme get this straight, and please correct me if I'm wrong: Are you aiding with the assertion he's making here? That nearly all professional athletes are cheating the game they play and themselves to gain some "edge"?
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I'm agreeing with what azcatz11 said. I believe a large percentage of players would care more about earning a major league salary than taking some moral stand against PEDs. They'd see it as leveling the playing field more than gaining an edge.
I don't know about that, but we're talking personal opinions here.
Is a chance at popping a positive test and getting banned, losing out on pay, worth the risk to try and stay on par with dopers who apparently fear nothing?
I don't know if I would believe your assertion that the percentage mentioned is even remotely close to that high, but we'll never know for sure.
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Starting in 1985 MLB and the players association agreed to random testing and IF more than 5% tested positive, that would trigger mandatory testing.
5% is a MASSIVE number btw. Remember, it has to be a steroid they are testing for. It has to be in your system when you are testing. So someone cycling might only test positive 1/4 of the year, maybe less. You also have to be an active current user, not someone who say used it to help before the draft, or to get up from AAA or in high school to add some size to make a college team. To get to 5%, you're already looking at likely 50% of players tried it at some point and time.
But not that, the first positive test was rehab, no lost games, no lost pay! The second time starting in 2004 when they did testing that could penalize you, it was a 15 game suspension. From there we penalties increase.
It was until 2011 that the players agreed to blood testing for HGH. Now go back to that 2004 test where 5-7% of players they randomly tested, tested positive. None of that was for HGH. None of that was designer drugs designed to be hidden from the tests.
So the idea that a player would be worried about PED use before 2004 is completely comical and even now...guys using to make the majors isn't going to stop because of the risk they lose what...their 30k a year minor league deal?
Go further and look at what WADA, their best methods to test are heavily based on long term use. Not people using for a short cycle to break through certain levels of strength or size they might need.
