WORST ALL STAR STARTER! BJ Armstrong or Andrew Wiggins

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Who was the worst all-star starter?

Poll ended at Fri Feb 4, 2022 1:09 am

BJ Armstrong
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Andrew Wiggins
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Total votes: 189

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Re: WORST ALL STAR STARTER! BJ Armstrong or Andrew Wiggins 

Post#41 » by Myth » Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:07 am

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JujitsuFlip wrote:Never lol not even close

His last 3 seasons he made it on namesake alone. He was a poor defender, his team record wasn’t good, and he shot his team out of games on horrible efficiency. One of those seasons he played just 6 games. Another 35 games. And his last season he played them all just about and the Lakers were the worst team in the West. His first all-star he made it due to hype and Lakers, but had worse stats and efficiency while not being a starter for his own team. You’re telling me it is not even close that Wiggins could be considered better than any of these seasons?
Statistically maybe but 35, 36, or 37 year old Kobe takes Wiggins behind the wood shed.

He took his own team behind the wood shed with his horrid play. He still had skill, but didn’t know his limit and made him a negative. There is no justification at all for those final seasons based on his play those seasons, only his reputation.
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Post#42 » by Warriors Analyst » Fri Jan 28, 2022 5:30 am

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JN61 wrote:Stop it. Wiggins has been great this season.

Per 36 he is scoring almost 21 ppg on ridiculously small usage. Been one of the key reasons Warriors been great this season.


Great? We must have definitions of great.


You see, his definition of great has everything to do with being able to prop up Steph's supporting cast at Steph's expense.
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Post#43 » by TYO23 » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:07 am

Wiggins deserved a spot but not as a starter especially with the wing injuries.
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Post#44 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:11 am

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Myth wrote:His last 3 seasons he made it on namesake alone. He was a poor defender, his team record wasn’t good, and he shot his team out of games on horrible efficiency. One of those seasons he played just 6 games. Another 35 games. And his last season he played them all just about and the Lakers were the worst team in the West. His first all-star he made it due to hype and Lakers, but had worse stats and efficiency while not being a starter for his own team. You’re telling me it is not even close that Wiggins could be considered better than any of these seasons?
Statistically maybe but 35, 36, or 37 year old Kobe takes Wiggins behind the wood shed.

He took his own team behind the wood shed with his horrid play. He still had skill, but didn’t know his limit and made him a negative. There is no justification at all for those final seasons based on his play those seasons, only his reputation.

That's your opinion but there's no justification for Wiggins at all... Reputation, statistically, or otherwise.
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Post#45 » by MrGoat » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:32 am

DusterBuster wrote:Wiggins got in as a starter lmao?!


I wasn't paying much attention to basketball today so this is the first I heard of it. And that was my reaction too.
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Re: WORST ALL STAR STARTER! BJ Armstrong or Andrew Wiggins 

Post#46 » by FNQ » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:50 am

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JN61 wrote:Stop it. Wiggins has been great this season.

Per 36 he is scoring almost 21 ppg on ridiculously small usage. Been one of the key reasons Warriors been great this season.


Great? We must have definitions of great.


You see, his definition of great has everything to do with being able to prop up Steph's supporting cast at Steph's expense.


I'd say he's been playing great too, without the transparent motives to downplay Steph

The guy is an above average defender at minimum with great versatility to go 1-4.. and on top of that he's scoring 18 ppg with 58% TS, 41% from 3. You tell a fanbase that they have that kind of player, and they are estatic.. but you tell them it's Wiggins, and buttholes across the GB pucker instantly. Yes, he was terrible in Minnesota. He's not a #1 option. But he absolutely is a #2/#3 option with above average scoring efficiency (I'd lean more towards 3 ideally) that's an extremely versatile and valuable defender.

Don't like his metrics? Hope you didnt see Klay's when he was busy making ASG after ASG..
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Post#47 » by Lalouie » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:57 am

let's cut the cr@pola

the asg should be voted by players

this "it's for the fans" excuse is for the birds. fans will not care nor know the difference. and anyway i think players want the respect of their peers. this way the players will stop crying about not getting a nod

ps,,,,i didn't know bj was still playing. he must be 50 by now
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Post#48 » by EliteSmarts » Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:00 am

rate_ wrote:Regarding Reggie Miller,

A significant portion of media voters that voted for the ASG players are closet Knick fans, which probably explains the Reggie Miller snub.

Same thing going on now with the Miami Heat. Alot of the media voters are Knick fans, so they are anti-Miami/anti Riley. Hence, why the Heat continue to get disrespected by national pundits. Majority of the media in general are significantly from northeastern region and have this wierd bias/stereotypes against South Floridians.

Do you know why that is?

Can anyone from NY or South Florida explain this please!
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Re: WORST ALL STAR STARTER! BJ Armstrong or Andrew Wiggins 

Post#49 » by batmana » Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:40 am

I haven't paid much attention to all-star voting in the past couple of seasons but unless they eliminated injured guys from the "list", I can't see how he gets voted ahead of Davis, Paul George or Leonard. It used to be that injured guys got their starting place and then were replaced by someone. I doubt many people remember who got in as a replacement starter and being voted as a starter holds significantly more weight than simply being an all-star.
That being said, I'm wondering, are they artificially eliminating the injured guys or did they legitimately gather less votes than Wiggins? I guess GS is China's team now if that is the case LOL.

FTR, Wiggins has had a good season and being an all-star would be OK but being an all-star starter is borderline laughable. Rudy Gobert is the most deserving one while the ones I mentioned are easily the most popular ones that I'd expect to be voted in regardless of games played or availability.
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Post#50 » by Ballerhogger » Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:34 am

BJ by a mile
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Post#51 » by Sark » Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:48 am

People were so used to checking off "SG - Chicago Bulls", that BJ got a starting spot in the ASG.

True story.
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Post#52 » by Zvaart » Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:03 am

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GunnerWRX wrote:Knowing realgm GB, I am pretty sure most of the ones dissing Wiggins haven't watched one single full game this season, and seeing what Wiggins does for the Warriors.

Highlights. Box score. And they know the universe!


I've watched multiple full warriors games. Wiggins is very lucky to play with Dray and Curry!



he is also very lucky bein the excellent defender he is

Also very lucky shooting the ball at high percentages and being an efficient scorer

Is not all luck, is him putting up the work, but i guess you already know it, as you watched several warriors games
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Post#53 » by Dupp » Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:35 am

dhsilv2 wrote:I gotta go with BJ if for nothing else, Reggie Miller didn't even make that allstar team. At least the snubs shouldn't be THAT bad this year.



Booker snub is certainly that bad. Same stats as Steph and on by far the best team in the nba right now.
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Post#54 » by superunknown » Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:38 pm

Lalouie wrote:let's cut the cr@pola

the asg should be voted by players

this "it's for the fans" excuse is for the birds. fans will not care nor know the difference. and anyway i think players want the respect of their peers. this way the players will stop crying about not getting a nod

ps,,,,i didn't know bj was still playing. he must be 50 by now



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Post#55 » by dhsilv2 » Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:57 pm

svart wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
GunnerWRX wrote:Knowing realgm GB, I am pretty sure most of the ones dissing Wiggins haven't watched one single full game this season, and seeing what Wiggins does for the Warriors.

Highlights. Box score. And they know the universe!


I've watched multiple full warriors games. Wiggins is very lucky to play with Dray and Curry!



he is also very lucky bein the excellent defender he is

Also very lucky shooting the ball at high percentages and being an efficient scorer

Is not all luck, is him putting up the work, but i guess you already know it, as you watched several warriors games


The thing is he's not that great a defender. That's where having Green calling rotations helps his game so greatly. His size and length are huge factors in his defense being valuable, but while improved he still lacks awareness on both ends of the floor. Him making the allstar game isn't the worst thing ever, but anyone thinking he should start is crazy.
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Post#56 » by Movics » Fri Jan 28, 2022 2:02 pm

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Post#57 » by dhsilv2 » Fri Jan 28, 2022 2:03 pm

Dupp wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:I gotta go with BJ if for nothing else, Reggie Miller didn't even make that allstar team. At least the snubs shouldn't be THAT bad this year.



Booker snub is certainly that bad. Same stats as Steph and on by far the best team in the nba right now.


Am I missing something? The full allstar team hasn't been announced. You can't be a snub yet? And his stats don't even look remotely close to Steph. Do you mean Seth Curry?

Actually looking at booker's numbers right now, I'm not sure he's deserving of being an allstar which is weird, as he's looked great in the games I've watched, but man he doesn't have the stats.
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Post#58 » by Zvaart » Fri Jan 28, 2022 2:05 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:
svart wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
I've watched multiple full warriors games. Wiggins is very lucky to play with Dray and Curry!



he is also very lucky bein the excellent defender he is

Also very lucky shooting the ball at high percentages and being an efficient scorer

Is not all luck, is him putting up the work, but i guess you already know it, as you watched several warriors games


The thing is he's not that great a defender. That's where having Green calling rotations helps his game so greatly. His size and length are huge factors in his defense being valuable, but while improved he still lacks awareness on both ends of the floor. Him making the allstar game isn't the worst thing ever, but anyone thinking he should start is crazy.


If you like, please tell me your opinion on who should start in your opinion? From the healthy front-court players of course?

He is an excellent on ball defender, and he is learning from dray, which is an all time great defender. Of course it helps playing with him and Steph, but we might give him credit as well.

And i also heard he is a decent COD player :D
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Re: WORST ALL STAR STARTER! BJ Armstrong or Andrew Wiggins 

Post#59 » by dhsilv2 » Fri Jan 28, 2022 2:08 pm

svart wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
svart wrote:

he is also very lucky bein the excellent defender he is

Also very lucky shooting the ball at high percentages and being an efficient scorer

Is not all luck, is him putting up the work, but i guess you already know it, as you watched several warriors games


The thing is he's not that great a defender. That's where having Green calling rotations helps his game so greatly. His size and length are huge factors in his defense being valuable, but while improved he still lacks awareness on both ends of the floor. Him making the allstar game isn't the worst thing ever, but anyone thinking he should start is crazy.


If you like, please tell me your opinion on who should start in your opinion? From the healthy front-court players of course?

He is an excellent on ball defender, and he is learning from dray, which is an all time great defender. Of course it helps playing with him and Steph, but we might give him credit as well.

And i also heard he is a decent COD player :D


Well the starters should be selected based on the top guys, not health. Gobert should clearly have gotten the nod there. Hell Draymond is 1,000 times more worthy this year to start. KAT. Go read the thread, that topics been covered.
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Re: WORST ALL STAR STARTER! BJ Armstrong or Andrew Wiggins 

Post#60 » by Zvaart » Fri Jan 28, 2022 2:28 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:
svart wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
The thing is he's not that great a defender. That's where having Green calling rotations helps his game so greatly. His size and length are huge factors in his defense being valuable, but while improved he still lacks awareness on both ends of the floor. Him making the allstar game isn't the worst thing ever, but anyone thinking he should start is crazy.


If you like, please tell me your opinion on who should start in your opinion? From the healthy front-court players of course?

He is an excellent on ball defender, and he is learning from dray, which is an all time great defender. Of course it helps playing with him and Steph, but we might give him credit as well.

And i also heard he is a decent COD player :D


Well the starters should be selected based on the top guys, not health. Gobert should clearly have gotten the nod there. Hell Draymond is 1,000 times more worthy this year to start. KAT. Go read the thread, that topics been covered.


Gobert is not getting enough love - from the fans or the media indeed - and i don't understand why, i love the guy and the jos he is doing defensively.

Kat, maybe, but i guess people are looking at what team he plays and Minny is not very popular either.

in the end this is a popularity contest which should be taken more lightly, Rudy and KAT will get there as well.

But i guess a lot of the dubs fans voted for Wiggs instead of Dray to encourage him, so it's understandable in way. i would not do it, but i get it.

And it might have been talked, but i am to lazy to look, so thanks for saying it again for me.
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