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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#581 » by Madhouse » Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:40 pm

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He looks like a fitter Boris Diaw.



Doesn't look too lengthy to me, Masai ain't drafting him is he doesn't have a minimum of a 7'3 wingspan and 9 foot reach, all depends on how any prospects measure.


If you are looking for 7'3 wingspan, you are looking at Jalen Duren and Mark Williams only.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#582 » by Psubs » Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:54 pm

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He looks like a fitter Boris Diaw.



Doesn't look too lengthy to me, Masai ain't drafting him is he doesn't have a minimum of a 7'3 wingspan and 9 foot reach, all depends on how any prospects measure.


If you are looking for 7'3 wingspan, you are looking at Jalen Duren and Mark Williams only.


Walker Kessler has a 7'4 wingspan and averages 4 blocks per game. He's the nephew of a former 1st round pick and his dad was drafted too.

https://247sports.com/college/north-carolina/Article/Walker-Kessler-North-Carolina-Tar-Heels-Basketball-Recruiting-Clarity-Family-138710869/

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/auburn/2022.html

Out of the starters WK has the best ORtg and DRtg and a 7.1 OBox+- and 7.3 DBox+- for a nice 14.4 B+-
Also just as high a WinShare as Jabari Smith, who has tailed off slightly in January.

Stl:TO = 1
Blk:Foul = 1.73
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#583 » by Madhouse » Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:56 pm

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Doesn't look too lengthy to me, Masai ain't drafting him is he doesn't have a minimum of a 7'3 wingspan and 9 foot reach, all depends on how any prospects measure.


If you are looking for 7'3 wingspan, you are looking at Jalen Duren and Mark Williams only.


Walker Kessler has a 7'4 wingspan and averages 4 blocks per game. He's the nephew of a former 1st round pick and his dad was drafted too.

https://247sports.com/college/north-carolina/Article/Walker-Kessler-North-Carolina-Tar-Heels-Basketball-Recruiting-Clarity-Family-138710869/

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/auburn/2022.html

Out of the starters WK has the best ORtg and DRtg and a 7.1 OBox+- and 7.3 DBox+- for a nice 14.4 B+-
Also just as high a WinShare as Jabari Smith, who has tailed off slightly in January.

Stl:TO = 1
Blk:Foul = 1.73


I didn't notice him. But as it looks like it would have to be a C. Most of the top wings all max out at 7'0-7'1 wing span.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#584 » by Psubs » Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:02 pm

https://nbadraftroom.com/p/2022-nba-mock-draft/

Damn, they have Nikola Jovic all the way up to #7 now since he's shooting 40% 3's. :(
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#585 » by alienchild » Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:03 pm

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I feel he would be like on a Biyombo level in the NBA.

Walker Kessler outplayed him head to head.


Kessler is a prototypical SAC/WASH lottery pick. Good luck with that.


He seems like a Jarrett Allen kind of player.


Lol. More like a Cody Zeller.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#586 » by Madhouse » Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:05 pm

Psubs wrote:https://nbadraftroom.com/p/2022-nba-mock-draft/

Damn, they have Nikola Jovic all the way up to #7 now since he's shooting 40% 3's. :(


Then we draft AJ Griffin instead. :lol:
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#587 » by Psubs » Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:07 pm

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Kessler is a prototypical SAC/WASH lottery pick. Good luck with that.


He seems like a Jarrett Allen kind of player.


Lol. More like a Cody Zeller.


Is that because of his skin colour? :reporter:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/cody-zeller-1.html

Cody left after this sophomore season too but stls and block numbers weren't there.

1.3 blocks : 2.2 fouls
1 steal : 2.3 turnovers
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#588 » by alienchild » Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:10 pm

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He seems like a Jarrett Allen kind of player.


Lol. More like a Cody Zeller.


Is that because of his skin colour? :reporter:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/cody-zeller-1.html

Cody left after this sophomore season too but stls and block numbers weren't there.

1.3 blocks : 2.2 fouls
1 steal : 2.3 turnovers


Nothing to do with skin colour at all. All due to style of play and effectiveness in NCAA vs NBA.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#589 » by Madhouse » Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:14 pm

Walker Kessler is averaging 6 blocks per 36.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#590 » by Psubs » Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:21 pm

alienchild wrote:
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Lol. More like a Cody Zeller.


Is that because of his skin colour? :reporter:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/cody-zeller-1.html

Cody left after this sophomore season too but stls and block numbers weren't there.

1.3 blocks : 2.2 fouls
1 steal : 2.3 turnovers


Nothing to do with skin colour at all. All due to style of play and effectiveness in NCAA vs NBA.


https://247sports.com/college/auburn/Article/walker-kessler-defense-auburn-181648462/

Chet has guard skills and 3pt shooting which makes him a lock for top 3 but Kessler is a good option in the teens.

https://www.auburnobserver.com/p/auburn-basketball-film-room-walker-kessler

Damn that P&R defense is decent too!

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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#591 » by alienchild » Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:48 pm

Madhouse wrote:Walker Kessler is averaging 6 blocks per 36.


Tshiebwe is averaging 18 rebounds per 36, 2.0 blocks, 2.1 steals, shooting 61.5 %.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#592 » by Psubs » Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:56 pm

alienchild wrote:
Madhouse wrote:Walker Kessler is averaging 6 blocks per 36.


Tshiebwe is averaging 18 rebounds per 36, 2.0 blocks, 2.1 steals, shooting 61.5 %.


He's a 22 year old junior that is 6'9, 260lbs. He's like a 2 years older version of Isaiah Stewart. When he plays against 6'11 and 7ft C's in the NBA he's going to be nerfed like Biyombo.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#593 » by hype_2004 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:07 pm

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He looks like a fitter Boris Diaw.



Doesn't look too lengthy to me, Masai ain't drafting him is he doesn't have a minimum of a 7'3 wingspan and 9 foot reach, all depends on how any prospects measure.


If you are looking for 7'3 wingspan, you are looking at Jalen Duren and Mark Williams only.


Absolutely, I'm calling it right now Masai will trade up to get Jalen Duren, that kid is only 18 yrs old and is already near 7 feet about 250 lbs, extremely mobile and athletic, also possesses a near 7'6 wingspan, huge hands and and is not done growing. He reminds me of a KG and Amare hybrid, this kid will make an impact right away, has an NBA ready body and aggressive mentality that you simply can't teach.Mark Williams is a lumbering big but his size is intriguing, 7'7 wingspan and a 9'8 reach, he reminds me of a lighter version les skilled version of Joel Embiid, he could be had with a late pick if we are interested. I've predicted the last years draft on this messageboard when everyone else is calling for Suggs we picked Barnes. Masai has a drafting history, long armed athletic prospects who can learn under the right tutelage, we will pick Duren if he's available, get back on me when this happens.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#594 » by PhilBlackson » Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:19 pm

hype_2004 wrote:
Madhouse wrote:
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Doesn't look too lengthy to me, Masai ain't drafting him is he doesn't have a minimum of a 7'3 wingspan and 9 foot reach, all depends on how any prospects measure.


If you are looking for 7'3 wingspan, you are looking at Jalen Duren and Mark Williams only.


Absolutely, I'm calling it right now Masai will trade up to get Jalen Duren, that kid is only 18 yrs old and is already near 7 feet about 250 lbs, extremely mobile and athletic, also possesses a near 7'6 wingspan and is not done growing. He reminds me of a KG and Amar'e hybrid, this kid will make an impact right away, has an NBA ready body and aggressive mentality that you simply can't teach.Mark Williams is a lumbering big but his size is intriguing, 7'7 wingspan and a 9'8 reach, he reminds me of a lighter version les skilled version of Joel Embiid, he could be had with a late pick if we are interested. I've predicted the last years draft on this messageboard when everyone else is calling for Suggs we picked Barnes. Masai has a drafting history, long armed athletic prospects who can learn under the right tutelage, we will pick Duren if he's available, get back on me when this happens


Put this prediction/page link in your sign then we can fact check come draft time lol I'd legit be shocked if we ended up with Duren.

I think he goes somewhere between 6-9, I'd be surprised if some team would trade back to where we'll be (12-17 seems likely and I'm doubtful BOS can sustain any success and we'll see if ATL really is doing it again especially come post Trade deadline & if Collins is still around). We make the Playoffs then I give it almost no chance. We'd have to finish behind both ATL & BOS to get the 12th and imo we'd have to be that high to move into the 6-9 range. In which case personally I'd be trying to move up to get Sharpe instead and I still like AJ (possibly Mathurin as well) so much I'd be tempted to take him over Duren too. I just like a talented wing scorer come Playoffs more than a rim running, shot blocker.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#595 » by ItsDanger » Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:20 pm

Jaden Ivey might have the clutch gene after that shot. What a game.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#596 » by hype_2004 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:22 pm

I've seen enough of Duren to declare him as our No 1 target this year, that aggressive non stop defensive motor you can't teach, the size, athleticism and passion is all there, will he be available at the mid teens? I think his stock will go up leading up to draft Day when individual workouts have concluded. He will be a top 10 pick hopefully we're there to snag him.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#597 » by Psubs » Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:23 pm

hype_2004 wrote:
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Doesn't look too lengthy to me, Masai ain't drafting him is he doesn't have a minimum of a 7'3 wingspan and 9 foot reach, all depends on how any prospects measure.


If you are looking for 7'3 wingspan, you are looking at Jalen Duren and Mark Williams only.


Absolutely, I'm calling it right now Masai will trade up to get Jalen Duren, that kid is only 18 yrs old and is already near 7 feet about 250 lbs, extremely mobile and athletic, also possesses a near 7'6 wingspan and is not done growing. He reminds me of a KG and Amar'e hybrid, this kid will make an impact right away, has an NBA ready body and aggressive mentality that you simply can't teach.Mark Williams is a lumbering big but his size is intriguing, 7'7 wingspan and a 9'8 reach, he reminds me of a lighter version les skilled version of Joel Embiid, he could be had with a late pick if we are interested. I've predicted the last years draft on this messageboard when everyone else is calling for Suggs we picked Barnes. Masai has a drafting history, long armed athletic prospects who can learn under the right tutelage, we will pick Duren if he's available, get back on me when this happens


What about Kwame Brown with better hands?

I will bet that Masai doesn't trade up to take Jalen Duren.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#598 » by hype_2004 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:25 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:
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If you are looking for 7'3 wingspan, you are looking at Jalen Duren and Mark Williams only.


Absolutely, I'm calling it right now Masai will trade up to get Jalen Duren, that kid is only 18 yrs old and is already near 7 feet about 250 lbs, extremely mobile and athletic, also possesses a near 7'6 wingspan and is not done growing. He reminds me of a KG and Amar'e hybrid, this kid will make an impact right away, has an NBA ready body and aggressive mentality that you simply can't teach.Mark Williams is a lumbering big but his size is intriguing, 7'7 wingspan and a 9'8 reach, he reminds me of a lighter version les skilled version of Joel Embiid, he could be had with a late pick if we are interested. I've predicted the last years draft on this messageboard when everyone else is calling for Suggs we picked Barnes. Masai has a drafting history, long armed athletic prospects who can learn under the right tutelage, we will pick Duren if he's available, get back on me when this happens


Put this prediction/page link in your sign then we can fact check come draft time lol I'd legit be shocked if we ended up with Duren.

I think he goes somewhere between 6-9, I'd be surprised if some team would trade back to where we'll be (12-17 seems likely and I'm doubtful BOS can sustain any success and we'll see if ATL really is doing it again especially come post Trade deadline & if Collins is still around). We make the Playoffs then I give it almost no chance. We'd have to finish behind both ATL & BOS to get the 12th and imo we'd have to be that high to move into the 6-9 range. In which case personally I'd be trying to move up to get Sharpe instead and I still like AJ (possibly Mathurin as well) so much I'd be tempted to take him over Duren too. I just like a talented wing scorer come Playoffs more than a rim running, shot blocker.


We have enough talented wing scorers, Masai is going for that size and aggressive mentality on defense and Jalen Duren absolutely fit that mold.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#599 » by hype_2004 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 7:26 pm

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If you are looking for 7'3 wingspan, you are looking at Jalen Duren and Mark Williams only.


Absolutely, I'm calling it right now Masai will trade up to get Jalen Duren, that kid is only 18 yrs old and is already near 7 feet about 250 lbs, extremely mobile and athletic, also possesses a near 7'6 wingspan and is not done growing. He reminds me of a KG and Amar'e hybrid, this kid will make an impact right away, has an NBA ready body and aggressive mentality that you simply can't teach.Mark Williams is a lumbering big but his size is intriguing, 7'7 wingspan and a 9'8 reach, he reminds me of a lighter version les skilled version of Joel Embiid, he could be had with a late pick if we are interested. I've predicted the last years draft on this messageboard when everyone else is calling for Suggs we picked Barnes. Masai has a drafting history, long armed athletic prospects who can learn under the right tutelage, we will pick Duren if he's available, get back on me when this happens


What about Kwame Brown with better hands?

I will bet that Masai doesn't trade up to take Jalen Duren.


Brown never had a near 7'6 wingspan nor 10 inch hands like Duren who is probably not even done growing.
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