Trade Deadline Discussion & Rumours - Raptors and NBA

[SurgeIblocka]

I don’t think we should be trading first round picks at this stage. We need to continue to add young talent to this team that’s on rookie contracts. Trading first round picks to do what? Potentially win a round in the playoffs? Idk that type of thinking seems super short sighted for Masai who has always been about patience.

Secondly, if we do make a trade I.e. Dragic’s contract, I don’t think we need a C. It should be for a perimeter player that can handle the ball a little and shoot, ideally defend well too.

Anyways on a macro level, let Barnes develop, OG develop, Trent develop, add a FRP in the 20s, use the MLE on depth and see where we stand next season.

Have you not been watching this team! This team can go against any team in this league and have a strong chance of beating them in a series. When you have a team like that you need to forget about draft picks. Teams like OKC, Kings, Cavs, Detroit, Wolves, Portland, Pacers etc can keep playing the draft game. We are not those teams anymore we have learned what it takes to win in this league. Hoping to draft the next superstar at 14 or 15th draft slot is what causes teams to consistently never build a contender and have to break it up.

3 of our starters are champions and you dont support them over the next two years with just draft capital!

This team is not a contender and that won't change with an addition, this team needs seasoning.

Players on rookie contracts are vital to building a contender.

Every team needs seasoning that hasn’t won a chip!

We have 3 starters that were significant contributors on a championship. All three won us many games that run. How could you be so blind as to not see it? You would rather wait 2 to 3 years so that Fred or Pascal may be gone to see if your 16th pick turns into Kawhi lol

Also this management team helped turn an undrafted player into an allstar. I have faith they can get production from 2nd rounders and undrafted or G league players to fill out the edges of a bench. But if you can trade a pick or picks to get a major bench upgrade you absolutely do it!

[Madhouse]

Have you not been watching this team! This team can go against any team in this league and have a strong chance of beating them in a series. When you have a team like that you need to forget about draft picks. Teams like OKC, Kings, Cavs, Detroit, Wolves, Portland, Pacers etc can keep playing the draft game. We are not those teams anymore we have learned what it takes to win in this league. Hoping to draft the next superstar at 14 or 15th draft slot is what causes teams to consistently never build a contender and have to break it up.

3 of our starters are champions and you dont support them over the next two years with just draft capital!

This team is not a contender and that won't change with an addition, this team needs seasoning.

Players on rookie contracts are vital to building a contender.

Every team needs seasoning that hasn’t won a chip!

We have 3 starters that were significant contributors on a championship. All three won us many games that run. How could you be so blind as to not see it? You would rather wait 2 to 3 years so that Fred or Pascal may be gone to see if your 16th pick turns into Kawhi lol

We'll see if the Raptors braintrust agrees with you. I'm not opposed to moving the pick for a quality player but don't see it as some necessary move either.

[WuTang_CMB]

Have you not been watching this team! This team can go against any team in this league and have a strong chance of beating them in a series. When you have a team like that you need to forget about draft picks. Teams like OKC, Kings, Cavs, Detroit, Wolves, Portland, Pacers etc can keep playing the draft game. We are not those teams anymore we have learned what it takes to win in this league. Hoping to draft the next superstar at 14 or 15th draft slot is what causes teams to consistently never build a contender and have to break it up.

3 of our starters are champions and you dont support them over the next two years with just draft capital!

This team is not a contender and that won't change with an addition, this team needs seasoning.

Players on rookie contracts are vital to building a contender.

Every team needs seasoning that hasn’t won a chip!

We have 3 starters that were significant contributors on a championship. All three won us many games that run. How could you be so blind as to not see it? You would rather wait 2 to 3 years so that Fred or Pascal may be gone to see if your 16th pick turns into Kawhi lol

Also this management team helped turn an undrafted player into an allstar. I have faith they can get production from 2nd rounders and undrafted or G league players to fill out the edges of a bench. But if you can trade a pick or picks to get a major bench upgrade you absolutely do it!

*2 players not 3.

We get what you’re saying but masai runs his teams with patience and intelligence. Keeping our first buys us 3 years at rookie value and remember OG was picked 23rd and started for us in his rookie season. You can find those players that can still impact early on.

Trading a FRP for a guy who wont start doesnt make much sense. Just gotta keep adding to the core and growing it.

[SurgeIblocka]

This team is not a contender and that won't change with an addition, this team needs seasoning.

Players on rookie contracts are vital to building a contender.

Every team needs seasoning that hasn’t won a chip!

We have 3 starters that were significant contributors on a championship. All three won us many games that run. How could you be so blind as to not see it? You would rather wait 2 to 3 years so that Fred or Pascal may be gone to see if your 16th pick turns into Kawhi lol

We'll see if the Raptors braintrust agrees with you. I'm not opposed to moving the pick for a quality player but don't see it as some necessary move either.

Look at the beginning of the season i was on team tank and wanted a high draft pick again because I didn’t this team could compete. This team has come together and proven many including myself wrong the past two months. Fred has progressed, Pascal who I thought would never regain his confidence after the Boston series has been amazing and OG , Trent and Barnes have taken huge steps with more to come. If we were at the bottom
Of the standings with a chance to have a high pick I would absolutely not trade out pick. But if we are sitting at 6th with on being 4.5 games behind the top seed, that tells you this team is not drafting higher than 10th or 11th if they get lucky otherwise its probably the 14th or 15th pick. The same will be for next year as well. So for two low 1st round picks we are going to waste the last two years of Fred and Trents contract and only only have 1 year left on OG and Pascal. Thats a huge risk to bank on low draft picks

[SurgeIblocka]

This team is not a contender and that won't change with an addition, this team needs seasoning.

Players on rookie contracts are vital to building a contender.

Every team needs seasoning that hasn’t won a chip!

We have 3 starters that were significant contributors on a championship. All three won us many games that run. How could you be so blind as to not see it? You would rather wait 2 to 3 years so that Fred or Pascal may be gone to see if your 16th pick turns into Kawhi lol

Also this management team helped turn an undrafted player into an allstar. I have faith they can get production from 2nd rounders and undrafted or G league players to fill out the edges of a bench. But if you can trade a pick or picks to get a major bench upgrade you absolutely do it!

*2 players not 3.

We get what you’re saying but masai runs his teams with patience and intelligence. Keeping our first buys us 3 years at rookie value and remember OG was picked 23rd and started for us in his rookie season. You can find those players that can still impact early on.

Trading a FRP for a guy who wont start doesnt make much sense. Just gotta keep adding to the core and growing it.

Lol its 3 players!

Fred , OG and Pascal.

OG contributed during the regular season and would have been great in the playoffs if he wasn’t injured.

[WuTang_CMB]

Every team needs seasoning that hasn’t won a chip!

We have 3 starters that were significant contributors on a championship. All three won us many games that run. How could you be so blind as to not see it? You would rather wait 2 to 3 years so that Fred or Pascal may be gone to see if your 16th pick turns into Kawhi lol

Also this management team helped turn an undrafted player into an allstar. I have faith they can get production from 2nd rounders and undrafted or G league players to fill out the edges of a bench. But if you can trade a pick or picks to get a major bench upgrade you absolutely do it!

*2 players not 3.

We get what you’re saying but masai runs his teams with patience and intelligence. Keeping our first buys us 3 years at rookie value and remember OG was picked 23rd and started for us in his rookie season. You can find those players that can still impact early on.

Trading a FRP for a guy who wont start doesnt make much sense. Just gotta keep adding to the core and growing it.

Lol its 3 players!

Fred , OG and Pascal.

OG contributed during the regular season and would have been great in the playoffs if he wasn’t injured.

No. That was OG’s down year because of the passing of his dad and his apendex. He didnt really contribute that season.

[SurgeIblocka]

*2 players not 3.

We get what you’re saying but masai runs his teams with patience and intelligence. Keeping our first buys us 3 years at rookie value and remember OG was picked 23rd and started for us in his rookie season. You can find those players that can still impact early on.

Trading a FRP for a guy who wont start doesnt make much sense. Just gotta keep adding to the core and growing it.

Lol its 3 players!

Fred , OG and Pascal.

OG contributed during the regular season and would have been great in the playoffs if he wasn’t injured.

No. That was OG’s down year because of the passing of his dad and his apendex. He didnt really contribute that season.

OG was out in playoffs due to appendix, he played the regular season.

He went out in April of 2019 due to appendix

[Madhouse]

Every team needs seasoning that hasn’t won a chip!

We have 3 starters that were significant contributors on a championship. All three won us many games that run. How could you be so blind as to not see it? You would rather wait 2 to 3 years so that Fred or Pascal may be gone to see if your 16th pick turns into Kawhi lol

We'll see if the Raptors braintrust agrees with you. I'm not opposed to moving the pick for a quality player but don't see it as some necessary move either.

Look at the beginning of the season i was on team tank and wanted a high draft pick again because I didn’t this team could compete. This team has come together and proven many including myself wrong the past two months. Fred has progressed, Pascal who I thought would never regain his confidence after the Boston series has been amazing and OG , Trent and Barnes have taken huge steps with more to come. If we were at the bottom
Of the standings with a chance to have a high pick I would absolutely not trade out pick. But if we are sitting at 6th with on being 4.5 games behind the top seed, that tells you this team is not drafting higher than 10th or 11th if they get lucky otherwise its probably the 14th or 15th pick. The same will be for next year as well. So for two low 1st round picks we are going to waste the last two years of Fred and Trents contract and only only have 1 year left on OG and Pascal. Thats a huge risk to bank on low draft picks

The core is here to stay for longer than those contract years imo and we will develop and build towards a championship roster. However that might look like.

If you think Myles Turner is available for a first and he makes the difference, cool go for it.

Maybe Toronto also believes they need to keep drafting well.

If you use that same logic, Toronto should have traded away their 2015,2016 and 2017 late first round picks. The kept those picks and just kept on building the roster and assets.

[TRik]

Throwing some ideas, we can fill out our two most needed positions by getting these 2 players: Thomas Bryant + Dinwiddie.

Their injuries scare me, Bryant didn’t look very mobile when we played them last.

[WuTang_CMB]

Lol its 3 players!

Fred , OG and Pascal.

OG contributed during the regular season and would have been great in the playoffs if he wasn’t injured.

No. That was OG’s down year because of the passing of his dad and his apendex. He didnt really contribute that season.

OG was out in playoffs due to appendix, he played the regular season.

He went out in April of 2019 due to appendix

He had a tough regular season if you remember because the passing of his dad and he never really contributed because he wasnt right mentally. Thats what happend. Didnt play in playoffs due to apendex

[Madhouse]

No. That was OG’s down year because of the passing of his dad and his apendex. He didnt really contribute that season.

OG was out in playoffs due to appendix, he played the regular season.

He went out in April of 2019 due to appendix

He had a tough regular season if you remember because the passing of his dad and he never really contributed because he wasnt right mentally. Thats what happend. Didnt play in playoffs due to apendex

yeah he struggled that regular season. Was still young though

[SurgeIblocka]

We'll see if the Raptors braintrust agrees with you. I'm not opposed to moving the pick for a quality player but don't see it as some necessary move either.

Look at the beginning of the season i was on team tank and wanted a high draft pick again because I didn’t this team could compete. This team has come together and proven many including myself wrong the past two months. Fred has progressed, Pascal who I thought would never regain his confidence after the Boston series has been amazing and OG , Trent and Barnes have taken huge steps with more to come. If we were at the bottom
Of the standings with a chance to have a high pick I would absolutely not trade out pick. But if we are sitting at 6th with on being 4.5 games behind the top seed, that tells you this team is not drafting higher than 10th or 11th if they get lucky otherwise its probably the 14th or 15th pick. The same will be for next year as well. So for two low 1st round picks we are going to waste the last two years of Fred and Trents contract and only only have 1 year left on OG and Pascal. Thats a huge risk to bank on low draft picks

The core is here to stay for longer than those contract years imo and we will develop and build towards a championship roster. However that might look like.

If you think Myles Turner is available for a first and he makes the difference, cool go for it.

Maybe Toronto also believes they need to keep drafting well.

If you use that same logic, Toronto should have traded away their 2015,2016 and 2017 late first round picks. The kept those picks and just kept on building the roster and assets.

So you can guarantee that Fred and Trent and OG and Pascal will all re-sign if we lose in the first round over the next two years? Your willing to take that risk, I don’t think our management is based on how much they have invested in these players.

[Madhouse]

Look at the beginning of the season i was on team tank and wanted a high draft pick again because I didn’t this team could compete. This team has come together and proven many including myself wrong the past two months. Fred has progressed, Pascal who I thought would never regain his confidence after the Boston series has been amazing and OG , Trent and Barnes have taken huge steps with more to come. If we were at the bottom
Of the standings with a chance to have a high pick I would absolutely not trade out pick. But if we are sitting at 6th with on being 4.5 games behind the top seed, that tells you this team is not drafting higher than 10th or 11th if they get lucky otherwise its probably the 14th or 15th pick. The same will be for next year as well. So for two low 1st round picks we are going to waste the last two years of Fred and Trents contract and only only have 1 year left on OG and Pascal. Thats a huge risk to bank on low draft picks

The core is here to stay for longer than those contract years imo and we will develop and build towards a championship roster. However that might look like.

If you think Myles Turner is available for a first and he makes the difference, cool go for it.

Maybe Toronto also believes they need to keep drafting well.

If you use that same logic, Toronto should have traded away their 2015,2016 and 2017 late first round picks. The kept those picks and just kept on building the roster and assets.

So you can guarantee that Fred and Trent and OG and Pascal will all re-sign if we lose in the first round over the next two years? Your willing to take that risk, I don’t think our management is based on how much they have invested in these players.

Then you expect the management to make a pretty major move on Thursday. We will see if it happens.

[SurgeIblocka]

We'll see if the Raptors braintrust agrees with you. I'm not opposed to moving the pick for a quality player but don't see it as some necessary move either.

Look at the beginning of the season i was on team tank and wanted a high draft pick again because I didn’t this team could compete. This team has come together and proven many including myself wrong the past two months. Fred has progressed, Pascal who I thought would never regain his confidence after the Boston series has been amazing and OG , Trent and Barnes have taken huge steps with more to come. If we were at the bottom
Of the standings with a chance to have a high pick I would absolutely not trade out pick. But if we are sitting at 6th with on being 4.5 games behind the top seed, that tells you this team is not drafting higher than 10th or 11th if they get lucky otherwise its probably the 14th or 15th pick. The same will be for next year as well. So for two low 1st round picks we are going to waste the last two years of Fred and Trents contract and only only have 1 year left on OG and Pascal. Thats a huge risk to bank on low draft picks

The core is here to stay for longer than those contract years imo and we will develop and build towards a championship roster. However that might look like.

If you think Myles Turner is available for a first and he makes the difference, cool go for it.

Maybe Toronto also believes they need to keep drafting well.

If you use that same logic, Toronto should have traded away their 2015,2016 and 2017 late first round picks. The kept those picks and just kept on building the roster and assets.

There is a difference between then and now. These players have won a championship. This management knows now what it takes to get to the finals. Lets see now, we have traded 1st round picks to get Lowry, Serge, Gasol, Kawhi, Danny Green.

[SurgeIblocka]

The core is here to stay for longer than those contract years imo and we will develop and build towards a championship roster. However that might look like.

If you think Myles Turner is available for a first and he makes the difference, cool go for it.

Maybe Toronto also believes they need to keep drafting well.

If you use that same logic, Toronto should have traded away their 2015,2016 and 2017 late first round picks. The kept those picks and just kept on building the roster and assets.

So you can guarantee that Fred and Trent and OG and Pascal will all re-sign if we lose in the first round over the next two years? Your willing to take that risk, I don’t think our management is based on how much they have invested in these players.

Then you expect the management to make a pretty major move on Thursday. We will see if it happens.

Not a major move but one that trades picks and salary balast to bolster the bench because this bench sucks other than Boucher

[SurgeIblocka]

This league is wide open right now. Lakers are dodoo, Bucks are vulnerable, Nets have major issues and no guarantee to get it together. If there were ever a year to get help for your core this is the year. Imagine going against Embiid, Bam and other centers in the playoffs with only Boucher. Thats just not fair to this current core they deserve better based on how they have been playing

[Yeezus_]

So you can guarantee that Fred and Trent and OG and Pascal will all re-sign if we lose in the first round over the next two years? Your willing to take that risk, I don’t think our management is based on how much they have invested in these players.

Then you expect the management to make a pretty major move on Thursday. We will see if it happens.

Not a major move but one that trades picks and salary balast to bolster the bench because this bench sucks other than Boucher

You want to trade FRPs for bench players who wont even play when games really count?

[WuTang_CMB]

Then you expect the management to make a pretty major move on Thursday. We will see if it happens.

Not a major move but one that trades picks and salary balast to bolster the bench because this bench sucks other than Boucher

You want to trade FRPs for bench players who wont even play when games really count?

Lol

[Yeezus_]

Rather continue to draft well, package those drafted players (assuming we hit on the draft), with future assets for an actual superstar when he's available.

[Madhouse]

So you can guarantee that Fred and Trent and OG and Pascal will all re-sign if we lose in the first round over the next two years? Your willing to take that risk, I don’t think our management is based on how much they have invested in these players.

Then you expect the management to make a pretty major move on Thursday. We will see if it happens.

Not a major move but one that trades picks and salary balast to bolster the bench because this bench sucks other than Boucher

Not interested in it.

If you trade your first rounder it better be for a major player.