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Post#201 » by Andrew McCeltic » Mon Feb 7, 2022 11:04 pm

You'd be lucky to get Toppin from them, could happen.. but no way they trade Barrett for McCollum.. even the Knicks aren't that confused. No offense
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Post#202 » by GEE » Tue Feb 8, 2022 2:26 am

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Holy Crap, that's a juicy blurb at the end from WOJ. Makes me think one or both of CJ and Dame must be changing zip codes. Just think of the possible return. Also, while people continue to complain about Stotts and Olshey history... We do have a new GM, and a new HC with all new assistants(a couple I really like). Why should we be at all surprised that those two may have a different vision, and would have a different opinion of what's best going forward when it comes to the entire roster of players, including Dame and CJ.

Poor analogy: Powell and ROCO are like new rims and a paint job, while CJ and Dame... A brand new car.

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Post#203 » by PDXKnight » Tue Feb 8, 2022 3:27 am

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Holy Crap, that's a juicy blurb at the end from WOJ. Makes me think one or both of CJ and Dame must be changing zip codes. Just think of the possible return. Also, while people continue to complain about Stotts and Olshey history... We do have a new GM, and a new HC with all new assistants(a couple I really like). Why should we be at all surprised that those two may have a different vision, and would have a different opinion of what's best going forward when it comes to the entire roster of players, including Dame and CJ.

Poor analogy: Powell and ROCO are like new rims and a paint job, while CJ and Dame... A brand new car.

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he had no mention of dame. I think dame stays
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Post#204 » by Case2012 » Tue Feb 8, 2022 3:35 am

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If Cronin is dumb enough to trade Norm and Roco for scraps then I guess he’s dumb enough to turn this down. :crazy:
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Post#205 » by DusterBuster » Tue Feb 8, 2022 3:37 am

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Holy Crap, that's a juicy blurb at the end from WOJ. Makes me think one or both of CJ and Dame must be changing zip codes. Just think of the possible return. Also, while people continue to complain about Stotts and Olshey history... We do have a new GM, and a new HC with all new assistants(a couple I really like). Why should we be at all surprised that those two may have a different vision, and would have a different opinion of what's best going forward when it comes to the entire roster of players, including Dame and CJ.

Poor analogy: Powell and ROCO are like new rims and a paint job, while CJ and Dame... A brand new car.

3 DAYS TO GO!!!
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You are smoking something good if you got “Dame may be traded” from what Woj video. It’s clear he was talking about CJ only. If Dame was available as well, that would have been the headline for Woj… he wouldn’t be hiding that nugget of information for viewers to decipher lmao.

Also, not really sure what Cronin has given you so far to trust in.

As for CJ and NY news, Tommy Dee, a longtime Knicks media guy just tweeted a rumor that the two players the Blazers are targeting is Randle and Reddish.

Reddish would be interesting, but it require getting really creative since he can’t be traded with other players. It would have to be 2 trades, just don’t see Cronin being that creative.
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Post#206 » by DusterBuster » Tue Feb 8, 2022 3:43 am

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If Cronin is dumb enough to trade Norm and Roco for scraps then I guess he’s dumb enough to turn this down. :crazy:


Yeah, that’s a really solid trade. I would be curious what else is on the table from other teams before I slam Cronin yet…. Certainly not against slamming Cronin, but gonna withhold that until another deal is made.

I’m curious about the fallout over a CJ trade. Nurk flat out said Cronin told him Dame, CJ and himself will not be traded. If he goes back on that promise within weeks of saying it, I have to imagine that’s going to go over poorly in the lockerroom… especially for Nurk. I almost think if they trade CJ, they probably should have a Nurk trade lined up too just to avoid a toxic lockerroom and potentially losing Nurk for nothing because they alienated him by lying. Feels like another potentially rookie mistake by Cronin.
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Post#207 » by DeBlazerRiddem » Tue Feb 8, 2022 3:58 am

Please take that for CJ.

Just trying to guess, but maybe they really want Herb Jones, trying to remake the roster a bit more defensive minded?


If Dame is OK with CJ being traded I cannot see why Nurkic would throw a fit about that.
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Post#208 » by PDXKnight » Tue Feb 8, 2022 3:59 am

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If Cronin is dumb enough to trade Norm and Roco for scraps then I guess he’s dumb enough to turn this down. :crazy:


Yeah, that’s a really solid trade. I would be curious what else is on the table from other teams before I slam Cronin yet…. Certainly not against slamming Cronin, but gonna withhold that until another deal is made.

I’m curious about the fallout over a CJ trade. Nurk flat out said Cronin told him Dame, CJ and himself will not be traded. If he goes back on that promise within weeks of saying it, I have to imagine that’s going to go over poorly in the lockerroom… especially for Nurk. I almost think if they trade CJ, they probably should have a Nurk trade lined up too just to avoid a toxic lockerroom and potentially losing Nurk for nothing because they alienated him by lying. Feels like another potentially rookie mistake by Cronin.


man we better jump on that if it’s there

If cronin turns that down fire him on the spot
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Post#210 » by DusterBuster » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:03 am

DeBlazerRiddem wrote:If Dame is OK with CJ being traded I cannot see why Nurkic would throw a fit about that.


Just seems like Cronin doesn’t really understand the relationship part of being a GM by telling players something patently false. He’s already lied to Nurk regardless by what he told him, even if they don’t trade CJ. He’s very clearly shopping CJ hard.

For sure that Nurk will just follow Dame… but I would wonder how Dame feels if they move CJ without talking to him about it (a possibility I don’t put past Cronin).
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Post#211 » by PDXKnight » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:03 am

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Post#212 » by PDXKnight » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:04 am

I’m surprised at the emerging market for cj, wouldn’t have guessed that he’d be worth much
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Post#213 » by DusterBuster » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:06 am

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whoa intriguing


If the Blazers are taking CJs feelings into account, I have to imagine the Knicks / NY would be high on his list of destinations.

If I were GM (and what I hope Cronin is doing), I would be getting as many of teams final offers as possible, then let CJ choose his destination from those teams.
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Post#214 » by PDXKnight » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:07 am

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whoa intriguing


If the Blazers are taking CJs feelings into account, I have to imagine the Knicks / NY would be high on his list of destinations.

If I were GM (and what I hope Cronin is doing), I would be getting as many of teams final offers as possible, then let CJ choose his destination from those teams.


Naw best return possible imo

Man if we can get reddish and randle that’d be a home run
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Post#215 » by DusterBuster » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:08 am

Oden2 wrote:I’m surprised at the emerging market for cj, wouldn’t have guessed that he’d be worth much


I think CJ has always been more disrespected by fans than he is actual NBA teams. CJ is a known high quality player and person, a little overpriced, but for a team who needs his skill and leadership, that’s not nearly as big a negative as fans here want to harp on.
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Post#216 » by DeBlazerRiddem » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:08 am

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DeBlazerRiddem wrote:If Dame is OK with CJ being traded I cannot see why Nurkic would throw a fit about that.


Just seems like Cronin doesn’t really understand the relationship part of being a GM by telling players something patently false. He’s already lied to Nurk regardless by what he told him, even if they don’t trade CJ. He’s very clearly shopping CJ hard.

For sure that Nurk will just follow Dame… but I would wonder how Dame feels if they move CJ without talking to him about it (a possibility I don’t put past Cronin).


Yeah, my expectations from Cronin are set at an all time low. Trading Lillard for a 2025 protected pick and expirings wouldn't surprise me too much.
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Post#217 » by DusterBuster » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:13 am

Oden2 wrote:Naw best return possible imo


I get this sentiment as a fan with no emotional connections to the player as a human, but it's just not very realistic... especially for a player as long-tenured as CJ has been. You need to be delicate with this move so as not to alienate other players (namely Dame). If you just do it cold and heartless, you're bound to damage other player relationships. I think by getting a collection of deals that are all to you liking, then letting CJ have a say is probably your softest landing from the player relationship side of things.
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Post#218 » by PDXKnight » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:23 am

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I get this sentiment as a fan with no emotional connections to the player as a human, but it's just not very realistic... especially for a player as long-tenured as CJ has been. You need to be delicate with this move so as not to alienate other players (namely Dame). If you just do it cold and heartless, you're bound to damage other player relationships. I think by getting a collection of deals that are all to you liking, then letting CJ have a say is probably your softest landing from the player relationship side of things.


I don’t get this whole delicate stuff. They signed a contract and with no ntc they signed it knowing we could deal them anywhere. As a team it’s portland’s job to maximize assets regardless of how talented or tenured they are
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Post#219 » by DusterBuster » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:35 am

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I get this sentiment as a fan with no emotional connections to the player as a human, but it's just not very realistic... especially for a player as long-tenured as CJ has been. You need to be delicate with this move so as not to alienate other players (namely Dame). If you just do it cold and heartless, you're bound to damage other player relationships. I think by getting a collection of deals that are all to you liking, then letting CJ have a say is probably your softest landing from the player relationship side of things.


I don’t get this whole delicate stuff. They signed a contract and with no ntc they signed it knowing we could deal them anywhere. As a team it’s portland’s job to maximize assets regardless of how talented or tenured they are


If you're a total **** to all your players and lie to their faces, you're going to ruin relationships with players and their agents. The end result is that you'll get blacklisted as a place agents don't want their players to go to. This isn't really something that should be that weird or hard to comprehend. Just as with any business, there is a very real human relationship aspect to being a GM. Yes, your main goal is to do the best for your team, but included in that is maintaining a good reputation among players and agents in the league.

The simple fact of that matter here is too, as far as I can see, both NOL and NYK could offer strong trade packages for CJ. If they're what is being rumored/reported, I would be fine with either deal. If you have a group of 2-3 competing offers that you value all the same, then what harm does it do letting CJ pick his ultimate destination?
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