Blazer Rumors Roundup 2022

[Blazinaway]

Nance is having knee surgery Friday, is this why the pick protection got changed to a buck 25 1st if Blazers don't get the pick this yr?
BTW I am not sure what the "original" provision was if it did not convey this yr,(maybe it was like this?) I wonder when the Pels knew about Nance's knee?

[DusterBuster]

Is nance out for the year then if he’s getting surgery? Seems like he would be a pretty big non-factor for them if he’s having knee surgery this late in the year.

[Blazinaway]

Is nance out for the year then if he’s getting surgery? Seems like he would be a pretty big non-factor for them if he’s having knee surgery this late in the year.

Did not see surgery details, assuming Pels knew this increases return we got.

[GOBlazers]

That's good news for us!

[Blazinaway]

That's good news for us!

yes, in the perverted "tanking" chronicles yes

[Dame Lizard]

Unless Cronin pulls something like SnT for LaVine and John Collins in summer, I see this deadline as a complete utter disaster.

We did poor in the LAC trade but all other moves and the direction in general is exactly what the team has needed. The primary goal is to add a true 2nd banana to Dame, we now have a path to cap space, a 21M TPE and 2 lotto picks to try and make this happen.

If we cant do the above, we move Dame and go full rebuild. We now have a path to a true rebuild with cap space (To take bad money for compensation) a 21M TPE (To take bad money for compensation) and 2 lotto picks to boot.

We killed the treadmill and have a swing big path (IE add a star next to Dame) and a true rebuild path.

Cronin has a vision and I love it. The issue is not getting a better comp from LAC, but the direction is absolutely the right one.

Cronin may or may not have a solid vision, but his negotiating skills are highly questionable

there is just no way you can cast that Clippers trade as good vision or good result. It was bad both ways. And I'll strap on my tinfoil hat and ask why TF he combined Powell and Roco in one package, and went to a team that had no first round picks to trade till 2028. I'm sorry, but that situation is just to easy to cast as one Seattle/Microsoft/Neighbor owner doing a favor for another

as far as the Pels trade; it looked a lot better yesterday before it was revealed if that 1st doesn't convey this season, it turns into the Milwaukee 2025 first. Further, New Orleans owned that pick unprotected but Cronin allowed the Pels to place top-4 protections on it

it's like he's in the middle of negotiations and is willing to accept a 2nd offer when the other side may be willing to up the value on their 3rd and again on their 4th offer

finally, in terms of his vision, if he see Jeremai Grant as an answer to Blazer problems he needs glasses

The LAC trade was horrible, yes.

As to your point about "Cronin allowed New Orleans to protect their pick", I think that's presumptuous/silly.

If New Orleans had sent salary filler + unprotected 1st to Portland for CJ, that trade would have been as bad for New Orleans, as the Portland/Clippers one was for us.

It was protected because that was the only way New Orleans would have made the deal. I thought CJ may have minor negative value, given his contract. So this was a good deal for Portland even if the pick defers to the Milwaukee 2025 one.

New Orleans are likely to end up in 9th or 10th seed imo, so they'll have to win both play-in tournament games to make the playoffs.

The odds favour us imo.

[Wizenheimer]

We did poor in the LAC trade but all other moves and the direction in general is exactly what the team has needed. The primary goal is to add a true 2nd banana to Dame, we now have a path to cap space, a 21M TPE and 2 lotto picks to try and make this happen.

If we cant do the above, we move Dame and go full rebuild. We now have a path to a true rebuild with cap space (To take bad money for compensation) a 21M TPE (To take bad money for compensation) and 2 lotto picks to boot.

We killed the treadmill and have a swing big path (IE add a star next to Dame) and a true rebuild path.

Cronin has a vision and I love it. The issue is not getting a better comp from LAC, but the direction is absolutely the right one.

Cronin may or may not have a solid vision, but his negotiating skills are highly questionable

there is just no way you can cast that Clippers trade as good vision or good result. It was bad both ways. And I'll strap on my tinfoil hat and ask why TF he combined Powell and Roco in one package, and went to a team that had no first round picks to trade till 2028. I'm sorry, but that situation is just to easy to cast as one Seattle/Microsoft/Neighbor owner doing a favor for another

as far as the Pels trade; it looked a lot better yesterday before it was revealed if that 1st doesn't convey this season, it turns into the Milwaukee 2025 first. Further, New Orleans owned that pick unprotected but Cronin allowed the Pels to place top-4 protections on it

it's like he's in the middle of negotiations and is willing to accept a 2nd offer when the other side may be willing to up the value on their 3rd and again on their 4th offer

finally, in terms of his vision, if he see Jeremai Grant as an answer to Blazer problems he needs glasses

The LAC trade was horrible, yes.

As to your point about "Cronin allowed New Orleans to protect their pick", I think that's presumptuous/silly.

If New Orleans had sent salary filler + unprotected 1st to Portland for CJ, that trade would have been as bad for New Orleans, as the Portland/Clippers one was for us.

It was protected because that was the only way New Orleans would have made the deal. I thought CJ may have minor negative value, given his contract. So this was a good deal for Portland even if the pick defers to the Milwaukee 2025 one.

New Orleans are likely to end up in 9th or 10th seed imo, so they'll have to win both play-in tournament games to make the playoffs.

The odds favour us imo.

I was talking about the Milwaukee pick, not the Pels pick. I thought that was quite clear. Sorry for the confusion. It was unprotected till it was added to the Blazer trade

[Dame Lizard]

Cronin may or may not have a solid vision, but his negotiating skills are highly questionable

there is just no way you can cast that Clippers trade as good vision or good result. It was bad both ways. And I'll strap on my tinfoil hat and ask why TF he combined Powell and Roco in one package, and went to a team that had no first round picks to trade till 2028. I'm sorry, but that situation is just to easy to cast as one Seattle/Microsoft/Neighbor owner doing a favor for another

as far as the Pels trade; it looked a lot better yesterday before it was revealed if that 1st doesn't convey this season, it turns into the Milwaukee 2025 first. Further, New Orleans owned that pick unprotected but Cronin allowed the Pels to place top-4 protections on it

it's like he's in the middle of negotiations and is willing to accept a 2nd offer when the other side may be willing to up the value on their 3rd and again on their 4th offer

finally, in terms of his vision, if he see Jeremai Grant as an answer to Blazer problems he needs glasses

The LAC trade was horrible, yes.

As to your point about "Cronin allowed New Orleans to protect their pick", I think that's presumptuous/silly.

If New Orleans had sent salary filler + unprotected 1st to Portland for CJ, that trade would have been as bad for New Orleans, as the Portland/Clippers one was for us.

It was protected because that was the only way New Orleans would have made the deal. I thought CJ may have minor negative value, given his contract. So this was a good deal for Portland even if the pick defers to the Milwaukee 2025 one.

New Orleans are likely to end up in 9th or 10th seed imo, so they'll have to win both play-in tournament games to make the playoffs.

The odds favour us imo.

I was talking about the Milwaukee pick, not the Pels pick. I thought that was quite clear. Sorry for the confusion. It was unprotected till it was added to the Blazer trade

No worries Wiz, but my point still stands. New Orleans would have been silly to trade it unprotected.

I hope the Pels can at least stay clear of the 7th and 8th seeds. The dream would be for them to miss the play-ins completely, although that seems unlikely (unless the Spurs conjure some dark magic).

[soobias]

whats the site that shows player salaries and future salaries and picks ?


i found bb ref for salaries but cant find about future picks

[GOBlazers]

Fanspo seems to have it all.

[Village Idiot]

sportrac has good salary information
realgm actually has a good overview of picks which seems to be updated: https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/team

[GOBlazers]

Bagley to the Pistons per Shams.

[PDXKnight]

Man if we knew about the injury to nance that’s basically the value equivalent of getting another first for cj.

[GOBlazers]

Yeah, it definitely makes the trade look better. And it also increases the odds of the 22' Pels pick conveying to Portland. All good for the Blazers.

[Case2012]

It will be absolutely devastating to not land that NOLA pick, it’s pretty crucial. Nola is loaded with picks and failing to land more than 1 first is insanely bad after giving up 3 starters. **** Spurs just got a first from TOR for Thad young FFS. We can’t get teams to trade into our cap just for space. Presti would’ve gotten like 5 1sts for all those dudes, it’s a joke.

[BlazersBroncos]

It will be absolutely devastating to not land that NOLA pick, it’s pretty crucial. Nola is loaded with picks and failing to land more than 1 first is insanely bad after giving up 3 starters. **** Spurs just got a first from TOR for Thad young FFS. We can’t get teams to trade into our cap just for space. Presti would’ve gotten like 5 1sts for all those dudes, it’s a joke.

We should have gotten a 1st in the LAC deal, but CJ absolutely isn’t worth 2. And I would argue he isn’t worth a pick in the 5-14 range but it’s likely that’s what we get.

The CJ deal was great, the LAC deal booty and we are 1-0 with Ingles on the team so clearly that’s a huge win.

[Jsun947]

Seems like the Raptors, Pistons, & Bucks got their C. Hornets are discussing a trade for Poeltl which would leave a market for Nurk closer to no mans land both at the deadline and maybe this summer.

[DusterBuster]

Pour one out for the Simmons to Portland dream for those of you who observed...

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[The Sebastian Express]

Boo.

[BlazersBroncos]

Well color me shocked. Morley did it. Props to him, didn’t think there was a chance Ben returned something like this.