Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Adams Traded to Raiders for 2022 1st and 2nd Rd Picks

[M-C-G]

The only way bringing Rodgers back makes sense is if he really is set on playing four or five more years. Because if "the window" is one or two seasons, I don't think they're real contenders with what's going to be on the field next season.

I think they are looking at it like, we beat both teams in the Super Bowler this season, and we have a win and narrow loss against the two other teams that lost the division games (SF and KC).

So if we can bring back a team near as good, we have a chance. Or at least that is what I think they are thinking.

[Treebeard]

The only way bringing Rodgers back makes sense is if he really is set on playing four or five more years. Because if "the window" is one or two seasons, I don't think they're real contenders with what's going to be on the field next season.

I think they are looking at it like, we beat both teams in the Super Bowler this season, and we have a win and narrow loss against the two other teams that lost the division games (SF and KC).

So if we can bring back a team near as good, we have a chance. Or at least that is what I think they are thinking.

Could be their viewpoint.

Still, even with all the financial hocus-pocus needed to bring Rogers and Adams back again, I can't see how there's sufficient money left to field a SB competitive team. I'm not buying the eating-your-cake-and-having-it-too pipe dreams that some fans expect for the roster. Who knows, maybe even Rogers beleives that himself. Something has to give somewhere for Rogers and Adams to be retained.

[jakecronus8]

The only way bringing Rodgers back makes sense is if he really is set on playing four or five more years. Because if "the window" is one or two seasons, I don't think they're real contenders with what's going to be on the field next season.

This. And even if that is the case, assuming Rodgers is near the same player for the next 4-5 seasons and/or stays injury free is a BIG assumption.

I fancy Gutekunst as a smart guy which is why I still think he ends up dealt this offseason. The opportunity to do a Godfather type trade with a 39 year old player doesn’t come along very often, especially when you are facing cap hell and this one move almost single handedly takes care of it. If Love isn’t the guy, you have the cap space and picks/assets to figure out who that guy is.

Furthermore, while things may be nice and rosy between the two parties now, I can’t imagine the organization enjoys having to walk on eggshells because of one player.

One injury also means you’ve thrown away potential years of contention down the toilet. It just seems far more risky to the long term health of the organization IMO to bring Rodgers back.

As Andrew Brandt has said, it just feels like it’s time for a change. He’s nailed the Rodgers fiasco since it began so I’m sticking with his takes.

[El Duderino]

If the organization offers Rodgers more money I think it would be kinda dumb to say the decision has nothing to do with Love.

How so? If they offer him the highest paid QB in the league, it is to satisfy his ego and come back here to play. What does that have to do with Love? That's the cost of keeping Rodgers 'happy' enough to play here another year.

Of course giving Rodgers more money to stay would also have to be at least some statement on how the team feels about Jordan Love.

Given the current cap situation, Adams being a free agent, and the looming big money both Alexander and Gary will require to keep them, not to forget Jenkins if he returns to form after rehabbing his injury, if the team felt Love could be effective, they'd be much more willing to trade Aaron for a haul.

If you as a team believed strongly in a young QB that you drafted in the first round and who is entering year three of his career on a cheap rookie deal, now would be the perfect time to move on from an aging/very expensive QB who yet again didn't play up to his standards in a playoff loss.

[M-C-G]

Of course giving Rodgers more money to stay would also have to be at least some statement on how the team feels about Jordan Love.

I'd agree if we were talking about Alex Smith, Kirk Cousins, Ryan Fitzpatrick or even Mathew Stafford. But we are talking about a guy that is coming off of two MVPs, those things are not the same.

Given the current cap situation, Adams being a free agent, and the looming big money both Alexander and Gary will require to keep them, not to forget Jenkins if he returns to form after rehabbing his injury, if the team felt Love could be effective, they'd be much more willing to trade Aaron for a haul.

Trading him may still be what they want to do or they may want to try and take another bite at the apple and win it all. For now, they appear to be putting themself in the position to try one more time or at least show the public they did everything from their end to keep him here, even if they privately want to move on (I suspect this is what is happening)

If you as a team believed strongly in a young QB that you drafted in the first round and who is entering year three of his career on a cheap rookie deal, now would be the perfect time to move on from an aging/very expensive QB who yet again didn't play up to his standards in a playoff loss.

Maybe they believe strongly it might take an actual second OTA / mini camp to keep developing him before he is ready. We forget, that his rookie season was largely a waste with all the covid stuff.

And again, that aging expensive QB just so happens to be coming off of back to back MVPs. I guess you can frame it any way you want, but we'll see what happens.

[Swan Vox]

Mike Smith moving on, not super thrilled about that…he did a great job with Gary, Z, ect…

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[WeekapaugGroove]

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I'd guess this might be Z getting cut.

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[Treebeard]

Mike Smith moving on, not super thrilled about that…he did a great job with Gary, Z, ect…

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The Smiths are likely cap casualties and Campbell maybe, so reduced support from the middle.

[Treebeard]

From Packers.com
https://www.packers.com/news/packers-hire-jason-rebrovich-as-outside-linebackers-coach?fbclid=IwAR3uvQUysSipHT0ye9Jn9QNmbAVzVTRX7s1SbvzfRZ9twzqu2ZFsjNz9RNM

Packers hire Jason Rebrovich as outside linebackers coach
Rebrovich brings 20 years of coaching experience to the Packers
Feb 18, 2022 at 03:00 PM

The Green Bay Packers have hired Jason Rebrovich as outside linebackers coach. Head Coach Matt LaFleur made the announcement Friday.

Rebrovich (reb-row-vitch) brings 20 years of coaching experience to the Packers, including eight seasons in the NFL with the Buffalo Bills (2013-16) and the Jacksonville Jaguars (2017-20). He most recently served as Jacksonville's defensive line coach in 2019-20.

In 2019, Rebrovich oversaw the development of DE Josh Allen, who led all NFL rookies and broke the single-season franchise record for rookies with 10.5 sacks on his way to earning All-Rookie honors from the PFWA. Rebrovich also tutored DL Calais Campbell, who was named to his third consecutive Pro Bowl in '19, and DE Yannick Ngakoue, who was the only player in the league in 2019 with eight-plus sacks, multiple forced fumbles and an INT return for a touchdown.

Rebrovich served as the Jaguars' assistant defensive line coach in 2017-18, helping Campbell become the first player in team history to post 10-plus sacks in back-to-back seasons. In 2017, the Jaguars ranked No. 2 in the league with 55 sacks, the second most in a season in team history, as three defensive linemen earned Pro Bowl honors (Campbell, Ngakoue, Malik Jackson).

Rebrovich held multiple positions with the Bills, serving as the defensive line coach in 2016, the outside linebackers coach in 2015, the assistant defensive line coach in 2014 and as a defensive quality control coach in 2013. In his four seasons with Buffalo, the team was tied for No. 3 in the NFL over that span with 171 sacks, highlighted by a franchise-record 57 sacks in 2013.

[LUKE23]

I think it's the best move to trade Rodgers and I also believe both Rodgers and Adams are going to be back. And honestly, it's hard to blame them with AR coming off back to back MVP's. Gute is in a pretty tough spot to be honest. It's easy for us to say make the trade, but we aren't the ones with our jobs falling on Jordan Love's (or a 2023 drafted QB) shoulders.

I hope I'm wrong and that they hit the reset button.

[jakecronus8]

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Gutekunst could be arrested for terrorism if he puts Young on the other side of Rashan.

[Matches Malone]

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[MickeyDavis]

“Rodgers … for years has played a careful, calculating game understanding that number of interceptions plays a disproportionate, nonsensical role in the passer-rating formula. Bad interceptions are, well, bad. Then there are interceptions that are the cost of doing business for unselfish, competitive, stats-immune quarterbacks battling to make plays and lead comebacks until the bitter end. When a quarterback, especially one with a powerful, usually accurate arm like Rodgers, deliberately minimizes chances to deliver a big play for fear of an interception … that’s just hurting his team. In the playoff game, a modest talent like Jimmy Garoppolo was under every bit as much pass-rush pressure as Rodgers but drilled more tight-window completions down the field largely because he wasn’t afraid of a pick and the moment.”

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[M-C-G]

“Rodgers … for years has played a careful, calculating game understanding that number of interceptions plays a disproportionate, nonsensical role in the passer-rating formula. Bad interceptions are, well, bad. Then there are interceptions that are the cost of doing business for unselfish, competitive, stats-immune quarterbacks battling to make plays and lead comebacks until the bitter end. When a quarterback, especially one with a powerful, usually accurate arm like Rodgers, deliberately minimizes chances to deliver a big play for fear of an interception … that’s just hurting his team. In the playoff game, a modest talent like Jimmy Garoppolo was under every bit as much pass-rush pressure as Rodgers but drilled more tight-window completions down the field largely because he wasn’t afraid of a pick and the moment.”

This is the argument I have been making for years with him. And I think the team didn't bring back Jordy and Cobb because he was using them as a safety blanket instead of running the actual offense as designed.

[Treebeard]

“Rodgers … for years has played a careful, calculating game understanding that number of interceptions plays a disproportionate, nonsensical role in the passer-rating formula. Bad interceptions are, well, bad. Then there are interceptions that are the cost of doing business for unselfish, competitive, stats-immune quarterbacks battling to make plays and lead comebacks until the bitter end. When a quarterback, especially one with a powerful, usually accurate arm like Rodgers, deliberately minimizes chances to deliver a big play for fear of an interception … that’s just hurting his team. In the playoff game, a modest talent like Jimmy Garoppolo was under every bit as much pass-rush pressure as Rodgers but drilled more tight-window completions down the field largely because he wasn’t afraid of a pick and the moment.”

Who made that statement?

[MickeyDavis]

“Rodgers … for years has played a careful, calculating game understanding that number of interceptions plays a disproportionate, nonsensical role in the passer-rating formula. Bad interceptions are, well, bad. Then there are interceptions that are the cost of doing business for unselfish, competitive, stats-immune quarterbacks battling to make plays and lead comebacks until the bitter end. When a quarterback, especially one with a powerful, usually accurate arm like Rodgers, deliberately minimizes chances to deliver a big play for fear of an interception … that’s just hurting his team. In the playoff game, a modest talent like Jimmy Garoppolo was under every bit as much pass-rush pressure as Rodgers but drilled more tight-window completions down the field largely because he wasn’t afraid of a pick and the moment.”

Who made that statement?

Bob McGinn. I know many on here don't like him but I agree ont this. Certainly Rodgers has made big plays in crunch time (see first Niners game this year) but there are many times he seems to play more for his QB rating. I appreciate he isn't as careless as Favre was but there are times when playing it safe protects your numbers but doesn't help the team.

[Reddeye]

Ouch

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[trwi7]

I would love to be a professional athlete and just troll everyone a few times a year. Just go on twitter and do the old emoji hit and run and then watch the fireworks of everyone trying to figure out what means.

[RRyder823]

Ouch

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"If" they dealt Love they'd be able to get at least a 3rd.

I understand teams aren't knocking down the door for him right now but even the biggest Love hater would say he was rated as a late 1st (early 2) prospect.

I find it hard to believe his value has dropped to "late day 3 pick" but it is a Denver guy tweeting that

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