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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#901 » by Big J » Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:28 pm

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The-Power wrote:Jesus Christ. This has to be one of the worst posts I've read in a while. You have a serious problem with your constant judgement of character from afar based on random, stupid things and you seem to not even realize that even after being called out on it. It's Cade Cunningham all over again.



Yea, except the Kerr social media ban was an actual thing that happened. Plus you could literally see the disappointment on his face when he’d get sent to the bench. These things are well known and documented.

First of all, it wasn't a ‘ban’ – it was something Kerr suggested both of them try out. And just because he struggled to deal with the Social Media frenzy and because he ‘looked disappointed’ when subbed out, you conclude that ‘he's blowing off coaches’ and is a ‘head case’. The fact that you believe that based on these two observations (one of them misconstrued) you can make such sweeping generalizations is exactly my point. That you cannot even see the problem in that despite being called out on it many times just goes to show your complete lack of maturity and ability to reflect.


Ok, if he's not blowing off coaches, then that means the coaches aren't telling him to focus on rebounding/defense, and not trying to do too much on offense. I am positive that ain't the case though.
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#902 » by tarantism » Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:31 pm

Wiseman abesnt from the injury report. He may not play tonight but I bet he's back for next game.

Hopefully he checks in ready to fire from three. I also hope Steve Kerr is reminding him that it's best to push the pace himself in transition too. Ideally he's been watching plenty of Corey Brewer tape.
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#903 » by northoakland510 » Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:33 pm

I didn't see an issue with him trying to score in the G-League. I thought the whole purpose was for him to get some work in.
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Post#904 » by Big J » Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:38 pm

northoakland510 wrote:I didn't see an issue with him trying to score in the G-League. I thought the whole purpose was for him to get some work in.


Except he was working on things that he's not supposed to be doing. It's like coaching a youth basketball team and all they want to do during practice is shoot half court shots.
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#905 » by northoakland510 » Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:49 pm

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northoakland510 wrote:I didn't see an issue with him trying to score in the G-League. I thought the whole purpose was for him to get some work in.


Except he was working on things that he's not supposed to be doing. It's like coaching a youth basketball team and all they want to do during practice is shoot half court shots.


But we saw him rebounding and settings screens. Did you expect him to pass the ball to those other guys?
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Post#906 » by GSWFan1994 » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:06 pm

tarantism wrote:Wiseman abesnt from the injury report. He may not play tonight but I bet he's back for next game.

Hopefully he checks in ready to fire from three. I also hope Steve Kerr is reminding him that it's best to push the pace himself in transition too. Ideally he's been watching plenty of Corey Brewer tape.


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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#907 » by SpreeChokeJob » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:21 pm

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northoakland510 wrote:I didn't see an issue with him trying to score in the G-League. I thought the whole purpose was for him to get some work in.


Except he was working on things that he's not supposed to be doing. It's like coaching a youth basketball team and all they want to do during practice is shoot half court shots.


But we saw him rebounding and settings screens. Did you expect him to pass the ball to those other guys?


He really won’t be used much in the offensive system besides open dunks set up by other players.

He should be focusing his time and energy on being the greatest defensive center in the league if he wants to help this team. His offensive value is if learns to pass the ball. So priority wise I can see why some posters are upset that everything is opposite in focus.
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#908 » by cpower » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:21 pm

Wiseman looks ok.. i like his rim protection but dont like he is handling the ball too much.. 0 ast 5 TOs...yuck...he is the same player to be until proven otherwise.
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#909 » by northoakland510 » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:23 pm

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Except he was working on things that he's not supposed to be doing. It's like coaching a youth basketball team and all they want to do during practice is shoot half court shots.


But we saw him rebounding and settings screens. Did you expect him to pass the ball to those other guys?


He really won’t be used much in the offensive system besides open dunks set up by other players.

He should be focusing his time and energy on being the greatest defensive center in the league if he wants to help this team. His offensive value is if learns to pass the ball. So priority wise I can see why some posters are upset that everything is opposite in focus.


I get it, but its not like he was on the floor with Steph and Klay. The kid been off the court for a year and wanted to let loose a little.
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#910 » by HiRez » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:32 pm

tarantism wrote:Wiseman abesnt from the injury report. He may not play tonight but I bet he's back for next game.

Hopefully he checks in ready to fire from three. I also hope Steve Kerr is reminding him that it's best to push the pace himself in transition too.

I'm thinking they hold him out only because it might be a little much to integrate Draymond and Wiseman at the same time. But hoping to see the kid play obviously. Maybe he just gets in for 8-10 minutes.
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#911 » by SpreeChokeJob » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:34 pm

northoakland510 wrote:
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But we saw him rebounding and settings screens. Did you expect him to pass the ball to those other guys?


He really won’t be used much in the offensive system besides open dunks set up by other players.

He should be focusing his time and energy on being the greatest defensive center in the league if he wants to help this team. His offensive value is if learns to pass the ball. So priority wise I can see why some posters are upset that everything is opposite in focus.


I get it, but its not like he was on the floor with Steph and Klay. The kid been off the court for a year and wanted to let loose a little.


He can let loose. But there was one highlight or lowlight where he was out rebounded by a g league scrub center off a missed free throw from the opposing team.

Made me throw up because that should never ever happen if someone is 7ft. He has to show more effort on the defensive side.
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#912 » by Big J » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:38 pm

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tarantism wrote:Wiseman abesnt from the injury report. He may not play tonight but I bet he's back for next game.

Hopefully he checks in ready to fire from three. I also hope Steve Kerr is reminding him that it's best to push the pace himself in transition too.

I'm thinking they hold him out only because it might be a little much to integrate Draymond and Wiseman at the same time. But hoping to see the kid play obviously. Maybe he just gets in for 8-10 minutes.


I'm sure they are going to hold off on him doing b2b's this year.
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#913 » by tarantism » Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:55 pm

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tarantism wrote:Wiseman abesnt from the injury report. He may not play tonight but I bet he's back for next game.

Hopefully he checks in ready to fire from three. I also hope Steve Kerr is reminding him that it's best to push the pace himself in transition too.

I'm thinking they hold him out only because it might be a little much to integrate Draymond and Wiseman at the same time. But hoping to see the kid play obviously. Maybe he just gets in for 8-10 minutes.


I'm sure they are going to hold off on him doing b2b's this year.
Agreed - B2B plus Draymonds return makes it seem pretty unlikely. Would be happily surprised though if he does get minutes. We are so close to the full squad returning, it's pretty exciting.

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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#914 » by FNQ » Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:14 pm

Have heard conflicting reports - is JW debuting tonight?
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#915 » by tarantism » Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:38 pm

FNQ wrote:Have heard conflicting reports - is JW debuting tonight?
I sure hope so

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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#916 » by whatisacenter » Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:38 pm

FNQ wrote:Have heard conflicting reports - is JW debuting tonight?

haven't heard anything but I would be surprised to see him start off on a back to back after playing yesterday. His knee and conditioning did look fine tho.
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#917 » by Big J » Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:41 pm

They might be holding off on "announcing" his return so that he doesn't end up getting a DNP on that date and embarrass him.
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#918 » by FNQ » Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:42 pm

Big J wrote:They might be holding off on "announcing" his return so that he doesn't end up getting a DNP on that date and embarrass him.


You dont think that Kerr and the Warriors would be on the same page about something like that?
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#919 » by FNQ » Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:42 pm

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FNQ wrote:Have heard conflicting reports - is JW debuting tonight?

haven't heard anything but I would be surprised to see him start off on a back to back after playing yesterday. His knee and conditioning did look fine tho.


Yup. I'm thinking not, because if they were bringing him back in, there'd be some fanfare. I thought it would be best for him if he came back with Draymond so as not to overly pressure him, but who knows
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#920 » by tarantism » Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:48 pm

FNQ wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:
FNQ wrote:Have heard conflicting reports - is JW debuting tonight?

haven't heard anything but I would be surprised to see him start off on a back to back after playing yesterday. His knee and conditioning did look fine tho.


Yup. I'm thinking not, because if they were bringing him back in, there'd be some fanfare. I thought it would be best for him if he came back with Draymond so as not to overly pressure him, but who knows
That's a sound argument. All I'm seeing is Anthony Slater saying he's listed as out...even though he's not on the injury report.

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