Official Scottie Barnes Thread 2

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Scottie Barnes, Raptors (4)

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Kawhi x Scottie workouts this summer^^

He is our most talented player, Lebron said Scottie is his choice for rookie of the year and is special. No surprise

I could be wrong here but I believe that quote was from a parody account. Further, LeBron declined post game interviews with media last night. Which I think is when the quote came out on social media.

Damn it, here I was getting excited about posting this

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Top comps: (1) Rui Hachimura, (2) Luol Deng, (3) Omri Casspi, (4) Kelly Olynyk, (5) R.J. Hampton

yeah, it's stupid if they want to compare seasons need to use the entire player profile.

for example crafted NBA does a much better job with this,

most comparable 19-21 year old SF/PF seasons in NBA history:



If you only use 20 year old SF/PFs



Just comparing offensive box scores like the ringer did is completely pointless.

[pingpongrac]

Not really just following the pecking order now that VanVleet is back, VanVleet and Siakam was waving him off a few times he was setting up for a post up, we won and that's all that matters.

I am sure Freddy ball hog is pissed he only got up 14 shots lol!, Masai needs to fix this for next season. I just cannot see Barnes having an opportunity to receive consistent amount of nightly attempts with 3 ball dominant players like Siakam/Trent and Fred around him. OG is the only other starter that is not ball dominant and willing to take less or sacrifice. He is also a player who can play off the ball and does not demand shots, along with our best defender.

I have seen many nights this season where even when Scottie is well on his way to a 30 plus point night they stop feeding him to get theirs. Trent is by far one of worse, even on games he does not have it going he just ignores Barnes to get his even if Scottie is waving his hands looking for a pass but then loves it when Barnes gets him a wide open look. That needs to end starting next season, because in this game it always about feeding the hot hand.

News flash to the 3 shot attempt piglets….. Scottie will not be getting you donuts next season if you're still even on this team. I personally think at least one of those 3 will bet traded before next season to allow the Raptors to start a true 5 and allow Scottie to move within the top 3 pecking order. No way anyone of those 3 will be willing to accept a lesser role and that means we would have Scottie still as a #4 option into his second season . NOT GOING TO HAPPEN and if this bothers you, move along because this is a Scottie Barnes thread. Getting tired of the pretend Barnes fans showing up on this thread telling people everything is fine and he does not get iced on some nights.

Scottie Barnes is so popular this is the second thread this season, that should tell you something. For the people who don't think he should be moving up in the pecking order. Start a tread for the 3 shot piglets.

Pascal and Trent could probably thrive under a Scottie led team. I don’t share that same opinion about Freddy Pylon.

This one might top your "Fred doesn't hype his teammates up enough when he's on the bench so he's not a true leader" take. A handful of subpar defensive games when we know he is dealing with a knee injury shouldn't supplant the other 350+ games of data where FVV has been a very good to elite defender lol.

FVV would absolutely thrive in an environment where Scottie (and Siakam) are leading the team though. He is 43% on C&S threes for his career and shooting 45% on almost 5 attempts per game this season. He has literally been one of the best C&S guys in the entire league ever since he entered the league. For all of the flack FVV gets for over dribbling and not being a true PG, he would be an excellent tertiary option too. He is top 15 in assists, secondary assists and potential assists while he is also just outside of the top 20 in drives per game and sets up a reasonable amount of offence from his penetration. He has a pretty average USG% and touch/pass rate for a PG, so it's not like he's just wasting possession whenever the ball is in his hands either.

I'm pretty sure 90% of this board would agree that Scottie taking the reins and becoming the offensive hub with Siakam as the #2 and FVV+GTJ+OG as release valves is a best-case scenario for the future of the team.

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yeah, it's stupid if they want to compare seasons need to use the entire player profile.

for example crafted NBA does a much better job with this,

most comparable 19-21 year old SF/PF seasons in NBA history:



If you only use 20 year old SF/PFs



Just comparing offensive box scores like the ringer did is completely pointless.

All those comps are really bad.

Sengun is not a SF therefore should never be compared to Odom. I get it, both big players who could pass, but Odom was a tweener SF/PF.

Sengun is a PF/C

You can find a better comp for Kuminga than JJJ

Mobley and WCJ are noteven the same types of players.

When coming up with comps, u gotta look at body types as well as play style

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yeah, it's stupid if they want to compare seasons need to use the entire player profile.

for example crafted NBA does a much better job with this,

most comparable 19-21 year old SF/PF seasons in NBA history:



If you only use 20 year old SF/PFs



Just comparing offensive box scores like the ringer did is completely pointless.

All those comps are really bad.

Sengun is not a SF therefore should never be compared to Odom. I get it, both big players who could pass, but Odom was a tweener SF/PF.

Sengun is a PF/C

You can find a better comp for Kuminga than JJJ

Mobley and WCJ are noteven the same types of players.

When coming up with comps, u gotta look at body types as well as play style

They aren't even trying to compare player types, just who had similar offensive boxscores which is pretty pointless lol.

[Dude-niagara]

I am sure Freddy ball hog is pissed he only got up 14 shots lol!, Masai needs to fix this for next season. I just cannot see Barnes having an opportunity to receive consistent amount of nightly attempts with 3 ball dominant players like Siakam/Trent and Fred around him. OG is the only other starter that is not ball dominant and willing to take less or sacrifice. He is also a player who can play off the ball and does not demand shots, along with our best defender.

I have seen many nights this season where even when Scottie is well on his way to a 30 plus point night they stop feeding him to get theirs. Trent is by far one of worse, even on games he does not have it going he just ignores Barnes to get his even if Scottie is waving his hands looking for a pass but then loves it when Barnes gets him a wide open look. That needs to end starting next season, because in this game it always about feeding the hot hand.

News flash to the 3 shot attempt piglets….. Scottie will not be getting you donuts next season if you're still even on this team. I personally think at least one of those 3 will bet traded before next season to allow the Raptors to start a true 5 and allow Scottie to move within the top 3 pecking order. No way anyone of those 3 will be willing to accept a lesser role and that means we would have Scottie still as a #4 option into his second season . NOT GOING TO HAPPEN and if this bothers you, move along because this is a Scottie Barnes thread. Getting tired of the pretend Barnes fans showing up on this thread telling people everything is fine and he does not get iced on some nights.

Scottie Barnes is so popular this is the second thread this season, that should tell you something. For the people who don't think he should be moving up in the pecking order. Start a tread for the 3 shot piglets.

Pascal and Trent could probably thrive under a Scottie led team. I don’t share that same opinion about Freddy Pylon.

n the bench so he's not a true leader" take. A handful of subpar defensive games when we know he is dealing with a knee injury shouldn't supplant the other 350+ games of data where FVV has been a very good to elite defender lol.

FVV would absolutely thrive in an environment where Scottie (and Siakam) are leading the team though. He is 43% on C&S threes for his career and shooting 45% on almost 5 attempts per game this season. He has literally been one of the best C&S guys in the entire league ever since he entered the league. For all of the flack FVV gets for over dribbling and not being a true PG, he would be an excellent tertiary option too. He is top 15 in assists, secondary assists and potential assists while he is also just outside of the top 20 in drives per game and sets up a reasonable amount of offence from his penetration. He has a pretty average USG% and touch/pass rate for a PG, so it's not like he's just wasting possession whenever the ball is in his hands either.

I'm pretty sure 90% of this board would agree that Scottie taking the reins and becoming the offensive hub with Siakam as the #2 and FVV+GTJ+OG as release valves is a best-case scenario for the future of the team.

Never said that about Fred, I could care less what he does on the bench. I will 100% agree with you saying 90% agree Scottie should move up the pecking order. Not sure how that happens when you're dealing with 3 players pushing for stats for their next bag. You think they accept lesser roles with less attempts which usually equal lesser stats that easy?

Only player I see willing to take step back is OG and he is also far less ball dominant. Yesterday was classic example, Scottie scores big amount of points in first half, well on his way to 30 and then SIAKAM/FRED decide to get theirs Scottie finishes with 21. Stats =larger contract, so I don't see that happening next season unless Masai trades one of the 3

One less ball dominant player combined with Scottie working his butt off over the summer and then Scottie will be one of the top 2 options. Does not need to the top option but he cannot be #4 option

[Dude-niagara]

Not really just following the pecking order now that VanVleet is back, VanVleet and Siakam was waving him off a few times he was setting up for a post up, we won and that's all that matters.

I am sure Freddy ball hog is pissed he only got up 14 shots lol!, Masai needs to fix this for next season. I just cannot see Barnes having an opportunity to receive consistent amount of nightly attempts with 3 ball dominant players like Siakam/Trent and Fred around him. OG is the only other starter that is not ball dominant and willing to take less or sacrifice. He is also a player who can play off the ball and does not demand shots, along with our best defender.

I have seen many nights this season where even when Scottie is well on his way to a 30 plus point night they stop feeding him to get theirs. Trent is by far one of worse, even on games he does not have it going he just ignores Barnes to get his even if Scottie is waving his hands looking for a pass but then loves it when Barnes gets him a wide open look. That needs to end starting next season, because in this game it always about feeding the hot hand.

News flash to the 3 shot attempt piglets….. Scottie will not be getting you donuts next season if you're still even on this team. I personally think at least one of those 3 will bet traded before next season to allow the Raptors to start a true 5 and allow Scottie to move within the top 3 pecking order. No way anyone of those 3 will be willing to accept a lesser role and that means we would have Scottie still as a #4 option into his second season . NOT GOING TO HAPPEN and if this bothers you, move along because this is a Scottie Barnes thread. Getting tired of the pretend Barnes fans showing up on this thread telling people everything is fine and he does not get iced on some nights.


Scottie Barnes is so popular this is the second thread this season, that should tell you something. For the people who don't think he should be moving up in the pecking order. Start a tread for the 3 shot piglets.

Pascal and Trent could probably thrive under a Scottie led team. I don’t share that same opinion about Freddy Pylon.

If you believe that Scottie is a star player than one of those 3 need to be traded so they can feature him more next season. If all 3 return then there is just not enough shots and he ends up playing garbage man center role. Other teams that had young stars usually traded out vets that would not give up the rock. All 3 of those players are ball dominant and playing for their next contract. I see Fred taking even more shots next season because he has an option the following season. Sickening to listen to Fred before Christmas talk about some starters need to sacrifice because he and a couple of starters had it going. Then why was Trent jacking 20-25 bricks a night when he was in a slump and Scottie was red hot? Total BS and Masai is the only one who can correct it.

Maybe Precious starts or maybe they trade one of the starters for a defensive center with size and bench depth.

[Los_29]

I am sure Freddy ball hog is pissed he only got up 14 shots lol!, Masai needs to fix this for next season. I just cannot see Barnes having an opportunity to receive consistent amount of nightly attempts with 3 ball dominant players like Siakam/Trent and Fred around him. OG is the only other starter that is not ball dominant and willing to take less or sacrifice. He is also a player who can play off the ball and does not demand shots, along with our best defender.

I have seen many nights this season where even when Scottie is well on his way to a 30 plus point night they stop feeding him to get theirs. Trent is by far one of worse, even on games he does not have it going he just ignores Barnes to get his even if Scottie is waving his hands looking for a pass but then loves it when Barnes gets him a wide open look. That needs to end starting next season, because in this game it always about feeding the hot hand.

News flash to the 3 shot attempt piglets….. Scottie will not be getting you donuts next season if you're still even on this team. I personally think at least one of those 3 will bet traded before next season to allow the Raptors to start a true 5 and allow Scottie to move within the top 3 pecking order. No way anyone of those 3 will be willing to accept a lesser role and that means we would have Scottie still as a #4 option into his second season . NOT GOING TO HAPPEN and if this bothers you, move along because this is a Scottie Barnes thread. Getting tired of the pretend Barnes fans showing up on this thread telling people everything is fine and he does not get iced on some nights.


Scottie Barnes is so popular this is the second thread this season, that should tell you something. For the people who don't think he should be moving up in the pecking order. Start a tread for the 3 shot piglets.

Pascal and Trent could probably thrive under a Scottie led team. I don’t share that same opinion about Freddy Pylon.

If you believe that Scottie is a star player than one of those 3 need to be traded so they can feature him more next season. If all 3 return then there is just not enough shots and he ends up playing garbage man center role. Other teams that had young stars usually traded out vets that would not give up the rock. All 3 of those players are ball dominant and playing for their next contract. I see Fred taking even more shots next season because he has an option the following season. Sickening to listen to Fred before Christmas talk about some starters need to sacrifice because he and a couple of starters had it going. Then why was Trent jacking 20-25 bricks a night when he was in a slump and Scottie was red hot? Total BS and Masai is the only one who can correct it.

Maybe Precious starts or maybe they trade one of the starters for a defensive center with size and bench depth.

Are we watching the same team?

[hype_2004]

I am sure Freddy ball hog is pissed he only got up 14 shots lol!, Masai needs to fix this for next season. I just cannot see Barnes having an opportunity to receive consistent amount of nightly attempts with 3 ball dominant players like Siakam/Trent and Fred around him. OG is the only other starter that is not ball dominant and willing to take less or sacrifice. He is also a player who can play off the ball and does not demand shots, along with our best defender.

I have seen many nights this season where even when Scottie is well on his way to a 30 plus point night they stop feeding him to get theirs. Trent is by far one of worse, even on games he does not have it going he just ignores Barnes to get his even if Scottie is waving his hands looking for a pass but then loves it when Barnes gets him a wide open look. That needs to end starting next season, because in this game it always about feeding the hot hand.

News flash to the 3 shot attempt piglets….. Scottie will not be getting you donuts next season if you're still even on this team. I personally think at least one of those 3 will bet traded before next season to allow the Raptors to start a true 5 and allow Scottie to move within the top 3 pecking order. No way anyone of those 3 will be willing to accept a lesser role and that means we would have Scottie still as a #4 option into his second season . NOT GOING TO HAPPEN and if this bothers you, move along because this is a Scottie Barnes thread. Getting tired of the pretend Barnes fans showing up on this thread telling people everything is fine and he does not get iced on some nights.

Scottie Barnes is so popular this is the second thread this season, that should tell you something. For the people who don't think he should be moving up in the pecking order. Start a tread for the 3 shot piglets.

Pascal and Trent could probably thrive under a Scottie led team. I don’t share that same opinion about Freddy Pylon.

This one might top your "Fred doesn't hype his teammates up enough when he's on the bench so he's not a true leader" take. A handful of subpar defensive games when we know he is dealing with a knee injury shouldn't supplant the other 350+ games of data where FVV has been a very good to elite defender lol.

FVV would absolutely thrive in an environment where Scottie (and Siakam) are leading the team though. He is 43% on C&S threes for his career and shooting 45% on almost 5 attempts per game this season. He has literally been one of the best C&S guys in the entire league ever since he entered the league. For all of the flack FVV gets for over dribbling and not being a true PG, he would be an excellent tertiary option too. He is top 15 in assists, secondary assists and potential assists while he is also just outside of the top 20 in drives per game and sets up a reasonable amount of offence from his penetration. He has a pretty average USG% and touch/pass rate for a PG, so it's not like he's just wasting possession whenever the ball is in his hands either.

I'm pretty sure 90% of this board would agree that Scottie taking the reins and becoming the offensive hub with Siakam as the #2 and FVV+GTJ+OG as release valves is a best-case scenario for the future of the team.

We all know this everyone and their geriatric grandparents know this but will Fred and Gary's ego buy into it and sacrifice for the team moving forward? That remains to be seen, I would assume Ujiri will have a heart to heart talk about the scheme and direction of the team going forward, he will explain to everyone what he wants the team to do next season and he will need assurance that everyone will be on the same page if not changes will be made, 100% guaranteed.

[Los_29]

Pascal and Trent could probably thrive under a Scottie led team. I don’t share that same opinion about Freddy Pylon.

This one might top your "Fred doesn't hype his teammates up enough when he's on the bench so he's not a true leader" take. A handful of subpar defensive games when we know he is dealing with a knee injury shouldn't supplant the other 350+ games of data where FVV has been a very good to elite defender lol.

FVV would absolutely thrive in an environment where Scottie (and Siakam) are leading the team though. He is 43% on C&S threes for his career and shooting 45% on almost 5 attempts per game this season. He has literally been one of the best C&S guys in the entire league ever since he entered the league. For all of the flack FVV gets for over dribbling and not being a true PG, he would be an excellent tertiary option too. He is top 15 in assists, secondary assists and potential assists while he is also just outside of the top 20 in drives per game and sets up a reasonable amount of offence from his penetration. He has a pretty average USG% and touch/pass rate for a PG, so it's not like he's just wasting possession whenever the ball is in his hands either.

I'm pretty sure 90% of this board would agree that Scottie taking the reins and becoming the offensive hub with Siakam as the #2 and FVV+GTJ+OG as release valves is a best-case scenario for the future of the team.

We all know this everyone and their geriatric grandparents know this but will Fred and Gary's ego buy into it and sacrifice for the team moving forward? That remains to be seen, I would assume Ujiri will have a heart to heart talk about the scheme and direction of the team going forward, he will explain to everyone what he wants the team to do next season and he will need assurance that everyone will be on the same page if not changes will be made, 100% guaranteed.

What ego? Am I missing something here? Did something happen in the past that I'm unaware of?

[Raps1103]

Pascal and Trent could probably thrive under a Scottie led team. I don’t share that same opinion about Freddy Pylon.

n the bench so he's not a true leader" take. A handful of subpar defensive games when we know he is dealing with a knee injury shouldn't supplant the other 350+ games of data where FVV has been a very good to elite defender lol.

FVV would absolutely thrive in an environment where Scottie (and Siakam) are leading the team though. He is 43% on C&S threes for his career and shooting 45% on almost 5 attempts per game this season. He has literally been one of the best C&S guys in the entire league ever since he entered the league. For all of the flack FVV gets for over dribbling and not being a true PG, he would be an excellent tertiary option too. He is top 15 in assists, secondary assists and potential assists while he is also just outside of the top 20 in drives per game and sets up a reasonable amount of offence from his penetration. He has a pretty average USG% and touch/pass rate for a PG, so it's not like he's just wasting possession whenever the ball is in his hands either.

I'm pretty sure 90% of this board would agree that Scottie taking the reins and becoming the offensive hub with Siakam as the #2 and FVV+GTJ+OG as release valves is a best-case scenario for the future of the team.

Never said that about Fred, I could care less what he does on the bench. I will 100% agree with you saying 90% agree Scottie should move up the pecking order. Not sure how that happens when you're dealing with 3 players pushing for stats for their next bag. You think they accept lesser roles with less attempts which usually equal lesser stats that easy?

Only player I see willing to take step back is OG and he is also far less ball dominant. Yesterday was classic example, Scottie scores big amount of points in first half, well on his way to 30 and then SIAKAM/FRED decide to get theirs Scottie finishes with 21. Stats =larger contract, so I don't see that happening next season unless Masai trades one of the 3

One less ball dominant player combined with Scottie working his butt off over the summer and then Scottie will be one of the top 2 options. Does not need to the top option but he cannot be #4 option

Lakers game

Scottie: 17 shots
Siakam : 17 shots
Trent : 19 shots
Fred : 14 shots

Yea… you called IT… Fred and Siakam sure did dominate the shots … lol lol lol

Don’t worry about actual numbers.. just make up any narrative you want .. and hope ppl don’t fact check you

Edit: Precious had 13 shots.. (one less than Freddy) .. that Precious .. always ball hogging and Trying to stat pad !! Lol lol lol

These guys !! Lol lol lol

[Dude-niagara]

Pascal and Trent could probably thrive under a Scottie led team. I don’t share that same opinion about Freddy Pylon.

This one might top your "Fred doesn't hype his teammates up enough when he's on the bench so he's not a true leader" take. A handful of subpar defensive games when we know he is dealing with a knee injury shouldn't supplant the other 350+ games of data where FVV has been a very good to elite defender lol.

FVV would absolutely thrive in an environment where Scottie (and Siakam) are leading the team though. He is 43% on C&S threes for his career and shooting 45% on almost 5 attempts per game this season. He has literally been one of the best C&S guys in the entire league ever since he entered the league. For all of the flack FVV gets for over dribbling and not being a true PG, he would be an excellent tertiary option too. He is top 15 in assists, secondary assists and potential assists while he is also just outside of the top 20 in drives per game and sets up a reasonable amount of offence from his penetration. He has a pretty average USG% and touch/pass rate for a PG, so it's not like he's just wasting possession whenever the ball is in his hands either.

I'm pretty sure 90% of this board would agree that Scottie taking the reins and becoming the offensive hub with Siakam as the #2 and FVV+GTJ+OG as release valves is a best-case scenario for the future of the team.

We all know this everyone and their geriatric grandparents know this but will Fred and Gary's ego buy into it and sacrifice for the team moving forward? That remains to be seen, I would assume Ujiri will have a heart to heart talk about the scheme and direction of the team going forward, he will explain to everyone what he wants the team to do next season and he will need assurance that everyone will be on the same page if not changes will be made, 100% guaranteed.

That sounds reasonable and something I could see happening or he decides to just trade one of the others starters to add better quality depth. It could come down to who becomes available and if the right package is presented then Masai could make the decision on his own. I like what you suggested but it is also hard to ask young players only on their second contracts to sacrifice. Maybe all those 3 players want to be all stars and that requires usage. Players on their 3 contract that have made loads of money would be more willing. I do agree with a lot your said and good to see there are other fans who understand Scottie cannot be a 4th or 5th option next season

[Marmoset]

We all know this everyone and their geriatric grandparents know this but will Fred and Gary's ego buy into it and sacrifice for the team moving forward? That remains to be seen, I would assume Ujiri will have a heart to heart talk about the scheme and direction of the team going forward, he will explain to everyone what he wants the team to do next season and he will need assurance that everyone will be on the same page if not changes will be made, 100% guaranteed.

I believe the second part of your comment will look after the first. if we can all see that Scottie is on track to be the Raptors' franchise player, Masai and Bobby and everyone else can see it too. Masai Ujiri traded DeMar DeRozan; I have no doubt this management group will not be afraid to move one of our other key players if they think it's necessary in order to get Scottie to maximize his potential.

I think it's happening organically to a certain degree. We've seen the interaction between Scottie and Pascal in particular lately where they've been giving up the ball to each other and getting a lot of easy baskets. I also think some of this is on Scottie as he has a tendency to defer in situations where he needs to learn to take the ball and go. That's not necessarily a bad thing since some guys who are trigger happy go their entire career without ever learning how to share the ball.

[mdenny]

This one might top your "Fred doesn't hype his teammates up enough when he's on the bench so he's not a true leader" take. A handful of subpar defensive games when we know he is dealing with a knee injury shouldn't supplant the other 350+ games of data where FVV has been a very good to elite defender lol.

FVV would absolutely thrive in an environment where Scottie (and Siakam) are leading the team though. He is 43% on C&S threes for his career and shooting 45% on almost 5 attempts per game this season. He has literally been one of the best C&S guys in the entire league ever since he entered the league. For all of the flack FVV gets for over dribbling and not being a true PG, he would be an excellent tertiary option too. He is top 15 in assists, secondary assists and potential assists while he is also just outside of the top 20 in drives per game and sets up a reasonable amount of offence from his penetration. He has a pretty average USG% and touch/pass rate for a PG, so it's not like he's just wasting possession whenever the ball is in his hands either.

I'm pretty sure 90% of this board would agree that Scottie taking the reins and becoming the offensive hub with Siakam as the #2 and FVV+GTJ+OG as release valves is a best-case scenario for the future of the team.

We all know this everyone and their geriatric grandparents know this but will Fred and Gary's ego buy into it and sacrifice for the team moving forward? That remains to be seen, I would assume Ujiri will have a heart to heart talk about the scheme and direction of the team going forward, he will explain to everyone what he wants the team to do next season and he will need assurance that everyone will be on the same page if not changes will be made, 100% guaranteed.

What ego? Am I missing something here? Did something happen in the past that I'm unaware of?

You didnt miss anything. Trik doesn't understand NBA defenses and doesn't know what a lock and trail scheme is so he thinks fred is a pylon when fred gives a lane to his cover lolol.

[Badonkadonk]

Loved Scottie tonight. He became more passive as the game went on, but he became a monster at the other facets of the game.

Dude is literally turning into a nightly 20 point threat, while being a 6-9 point guard with a 7-4 wingspan, while also being our best defender... just read that over and process it and realize this guy is a Raptor.... Jeeeez

Not really just following the pecking order now that VanVleet is back, VanVleet and Siakam was waving him off a few times he was setting up for a post up, we won and that's all that matters.

I am sure Freddy ball hog is pissed he only got up 14 shots lol!, Masai needs to fix this for next season. I just cannot see Barnes having an opportunity to receive consistent amount of nightly attempts with 3 ball dominant players like Siakam/Trent and Fred around him. OG is the only other starter that is not ball dominant and willing to take less or sacrifice. He is also a player who can play off the ball and does not demand shots, along with our best defender.

I have seen many nights this season where even when Scottie is well on his way to a 30 plus point night they stop feeding him to get theirs. Trent is by far one of worse, even on games he does not have it going he just ignores Barnes to get his even if Scottie is waving his hands looking for a pass but then loves it when Barnes gets him a wide open look. That needs to end starting next season, because in this game it always about feeding the hot hand.

News flash to the 3 shot attempt piglets….. Scottie will not be getting you donuts next season if you're still even on this team. I personally think at least one of those 3 will bet traded before next season to allow the Raptors to start a true 5 and allow Scottie to move within the top 3 pecking order. No way anyone of those 3 will be willing to accept a lesser role and that means we would have Scottie still as a #4 option into his second season . NOT GOING TO HAPPEN and if this bothers you, move along because this is a Scottie Barnes thread. Getting tired of the pretend Barnes fans showing up on this thread telling people everything is fine and he does not get iced on some nights.


Scottie Barnes is so popular this is the second thread this season, that should tell you something. For the people who don't think he should be moving up in the pecking order. Start a tread for the 3 shot piglets.

Lots going on in this thread, and I'm not sure anybody needs to start a "tread for the 3 shot piglets" (whatever that means), but I'm pretty sure you have no idea how the offence functions, or how it's supposed to function.

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I am sure Freddy ball hog is pissed he only got up 14 shots lol!, Masai needs to fix this for next season. I just cannot see Barnes having an opportunity to receive consistent amount of nightly attempts with 3 ball dominant players like Siakam/Trent and Fred around him. OG is the only other starter that is not ball dominant and willing to take less or sacrifice. He is also a player who can play off the ball and does not demand shots, along with our best defender.

I have seen many nights this season where even when Scottie is well on his way to a 30 plus point night they stop feeding him to get theirs. Trent is by far one of worse, even on games he does not have it going he just ignores Barnes to get his even if Scottie is waving his hands looking for a pass but then loves it when Barnes gets him a wide open look. That needs to end starting next season, because in this game it always about feeding the hot hand.

News flash to the 3 shot attempt piglets….. Scottie will not be getting you donuts next season if you're still even on this team. I personally think at least one of those 3 will bet traded before next season to allow the Raptors to start a true 5 and allow Scottie to move within the top 3 pecking order. No way anyone of those 3 will be willing to accept a lesser role and that means we would have Scottie still as a #4 option into his second season . NOT GOING TO HAPPEN and if this bothers you, move along because this is a Scottie Barnes thread. Getting tired of the pretend Barnes fans showing up on this thread telling people everything is fine and he does not get iced on some nights.

Scottie Barnes is so popular this is the second thread this season, that should tell you something. For the people who don't think he should be moving up in the pecking order. Start a tread for the 3 shot piglets.

Pascal and Trent could probably thrive under a Scottie led team. I don’t share that same opinion about Freddy Pylon.

This one might top your "Fred doesn't hype his teammates up enough when he's on the bench so he's not a true leader" take. A handful of subpar defensive games when we know he is dealing with a knee injury shouldn't supplant the other 350+ games of data where FVV has been a very good to elite defender lol.

FVV would absolutely thrive in an environment where Scottie (and Siakam) are leading the team though. He is 43% on C&S threes for his career and shooting 45% on almost 5 attempts per game this season. He has literally been one of the best C&S guys in the entire league ever since he entered the league. For all of the flack FVV gets for over dribbling and not being a true PG, he would be an excellent tertiary option too. He is top 15 in assists, secondary assists and potential assists while he is also just outside of the top 20 in drives per game and sets up a reasonable amount of offence from his penetration. He has a pretty average USG% and touch/pass rate for a PG, so it's not like he's just wasting possession whenever the ball is in his hands either.

I'm pretty sure 90% of this board would agree that Scottie taking the reins and becoming the offensive hub with Siakam as the #2 and FVV+GTJ+OG as release valves is a best-case scenario for the future of the team.

Ok so we hold different options about whether Fred would thrive. That’s ok. Totally fair that you also defend Fred’s defence to his knee.

Cheers.

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Why wouldn't Fred thrive?

He thrived in the Finals behind Kawhi, Siakam, and Lowry.

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Pascal and Trent could probably thrive under a Scottie led team. I don’t share that same opinion about Freddy Pylon.

This one might top your "Fred doesn't hype his teammates up enough when he's on the bench so he's not a true leader" take. A handful of subpar defensive games when we know he is dealing with a knee injury shouldn't supplant the other 350+ games of data where FVV has been a very good to elite defender lol.

FVV would absolutely thrive in an environment where Scottie (and Siakam) are leading the team though. He is 43% on C&S threes for his career and shooting 45% on almost 5 attempts per game this season. He has literally been one of the best C&S guys in the entire league ever since he entered the league. For all of the flack FVV gets for over dribbling and not being a true PG, he would be an excellent tertiary option too. He is top 15 in assists, secondary assists and potential assists while he is also just outside of the top 20 in drives per game and sets up a reasonable amount of offence from his penetration. He has a pretty average USG% and touch/pass rate for a PG, so it's not like he's just wasting possession whenever the ball is in his hands either.

I'm pretty sure 90% of this board would agree that Scottie taking the reins and becoming the offensive hub with Siakam as the #2 and FVV+GTJ+OG as release valves is a best-case scenario for the future of the team.

Ok so we hold different options about whether Fred would thrive. That’s ok. Totally fair that you also defend Fred’s defence to his knee.

Cheers.

How would you be capable of assessing anything? When the raps employ a lock and trail....you don't even know they are allowing guards to penetrate on purpose. You don't even know what you are watching.

You are calling one the league's best defensive players a pylon. You are ignorant. One who makes judgements about something you don't know anything about.

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It's the same dude regurgitating the same thing over and over again, about the pecking order. Nothing new, nothing insightful, just banging the same drum over and over like we didn't read it a thousand times before.

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