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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#261 » by emunney » Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:02 pm

Any time you can get Treylon, Trey, Tyler, and Troy in the first 100 picks you simply must pull the trigger.
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Post#262 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:12 pm

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Post#264 » by Daver » Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:23 am

Like the cbs mock draft alot they have the packers taking dotson at 22 and williams at 28 wow 2 wrs round 1 would love that
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Post#265 » by M-C-G » Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:45 pm

Daver wrote:Like the cbs mock draft alot they have the packers taking dotson at 22 and williams at 28 wow 2 wrs round 1 would love that


I was just watching Dotson. Moves and plays an awful lot like Greg Jennings. I feel like Rodgers would like throwing to this guy a lot, just not sure I would wait on Williams until 28.

One problem is that neither of these guys seem to fit the physical profile that Gute likes, but given we are all in on Rodgers, maybe they throw that out the window.





Not sure if mentioned, but this Kevin Austin Jr. out of Notre Dame has a Packer profile written all over him.
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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#266 » by Profound23 » Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:15 pm

Daver wrote:Like the cbs mock draft alot they have the packers taking dotson at 22 and williams at 28 wow 2 wrs round 1 would love that


I think if that's our picks it's Williams@22 and Dotson@28 but I will take it either way.

I don't think it's a bad thing to double up on WRs in the first......or take WR with any 2 of our first 4 picks. Then just have both rookies move into Rodgers house and build a rapport with him (LOL).

I don't think we take Dotson because we seem to always take players with high RAS (athletic) scores and Dotson is one of the lowest of the wide receivers in this draft.

Olave is one of the highest so I am confident he is high on our board. Although getting both Williams and Olave would be too much of a pipe dream imo.
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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#267 » by Matches Malone » Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:23 pm

Not sure Dotson fits what Gute typically does in the draft.

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For reference, from CheeseheadTV:

With 10 being the best and 5 being average, most of Gutey's draft picks scored 8.0 or higher, with above 8.0 being "great" and above 9.0 being "elite." Out of the 25 eligible draft picks who scored on the RAS table, 22 of them were above 8.0, and of those 22, 13 were above 9.0. Jake Hanson and Cole Madison were the only two whose testing numbers were below average.
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Re: 2022 NFL Draft discussion 

Post#268 » by M-C-G » Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:32 pm

Matches Malone wrote:Not sure Dotson fits what Gute typically does in the draft.

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For reference, from CheeseheadTV:

With 10 being the best and 5 being average, most of Gutey's draft picks scored 8.0 or higher, with above 8.0 being "great" and above 9.0 being "elite." Out of the 25 eligible draft picks who scored on the RAS table, 22 of them were above 8.0, and of those 22, 13 were above 9.0. Jake Hanson and Cole Madison were the only two whose testing numbers were below average.


I agree he is not a typical fit, but in the 'guys that Rodgers would actually throw to' department, he might be the third guy of three assuming Olave and Garrett are off the board (I am guessing if Drake London runs anything respectable he won't be there, but I could make the case he might be the perfect fit as a Rodgers guy and a Gute guy)
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Post#269 » by msiris » Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:33 pm

Matches Malone wrote:Not sure Dotson fits what Gute typically does in the draft.

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For reference, from CheeseheadTV:

With 10 being the best and 5 being average, most of Gutey's draft picks scored 8.0 or higher, with above 8.0 being "great" and above 9.0 being "elite." Out of the 25 eligible draft picks who scored on the RAS table, 22 of them were above 8.0, and of those 22, 13 were above 9.0. Jake Hanson and Cole Madison were the only two whose testing numbers were below average.
Who are the13 above 9?
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Post#270 » by Profound23 » Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:36 pm

Matches Malone wrote:Not sure Dotson fits what Gute typically does in the draft.

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For reference, from CheeseheadTV:

With 10 being the best and 5 being average, most of Gutey's draft picks scored 8.0 or higher, with above 8.0 being "great" and above 9.0 being "elite." Out of the 25 eligible draft picks who scored on the RAS table, 22 of them were above 8.0, and of those 22, 13 were above 9.0. Jake Hanson and Cole Madison were the only two whose testing numbers were below average.



Yep, just posted this above you. I don't see us taking him at all, especially at 22.
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Post#271 » by Matches Malone » Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:37 pm

msiris wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:Not sure Dotson fits what Gute typically does in the draft.

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For reference, from CheeseheadTV:

With 10 being the best and 5 being average, most of Gutey's draft picks scored 8.0 or higher, with above 8.0 being "great" and above 9.0 being "elite." Out of the 25 eligible draft picks who scored on the RAS table, 22 of them were above 8.0, and of those 22, 13 were above 9.0. Jake Hanson and Cole Madison were the only two whose testing numbers were below average.
Who are the13 above 9?


Not sure about all 13, but I do know Stokes, Gary, Jenkins, Jaire, and MVS were all a part of that 9 and up group.
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Post#272 » by MickeyDavis » Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:44 pm

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Post#273 » by stillgotgame » Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:05 pm

Matches Malone wrote:
msiris wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:Not sure Dotson fits what Gute typically does in the draft.

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For reference, from CheeseheadTV:

Who are the13 above 9?


Not sure about all 13, but I do know Stokes, Gary, Jenkins, Jaire, and MVS were all a part of that 9 and up group.


Not at skill positions. Amari Rodgers was a low 5, Sternberger was a 5 and Josiah was a 6.
And please spare me the excuse that they weren’t 1st round picks. TT took Jordy, Jennings & James Jones all outside the 1st round.
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Post#274 » by Matches Malone » Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:53 pm

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msiris wrote:Who are the13 above 9?


Not sure about all 13, but I do know Stokes, Gary, Jenkins, Jaire, and MVS were all a part of that 9 and up group.


Not at skill positions. Amari Rodgers was a low 5, Sternberger was a 5 and Josiah was a 6.
And please spare me the excuse that they weren’t 1st round picks. TT took Jordy, Jennings & James Jones all outside the 1st round.

It’s not that serious. Jeez. Just throwing out that Gute tends to lean on the side of athletes with a trend in his picks. Doesn’t mean Dotson won’t be a consideration but bringing in another GMs picks doesn’t exactly prove some point.
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Post#275 » by Profound23 » Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:11 pm

Matches Malone wrote:
stillgotgame wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:
Not sure about all 13, but I do know Stokes, Gary, Jenkins, Jaire, and MVS were all a part of that 9 and up group.


Not at skill positions. Amari Rodgers was a low 5, Sternberger was a 5 and Josiah was a 6.
And please spare me the excuse that they weren’t 1st round picks. TT took Jordy, Jennings & James Jones all outside the 1st round.

It’s not that serious. Jeez. Just throwing out that Gute tends to lean on the side of athletes with a trend in his picks. Doesn’t mean Dotson won’t be a consideration but bringing in another GMs picks doesn’t exactly prove some point.



Yeah, last year we all pretty much narrowed it down to Stokes and a couple of others because we can see how Gute and Co. like to draft. I believe there are a couple of WRs they have over Dotson. Doesn't mean they won't draft Dotson if the others are gone, but I am confident he is not their first or second choice at the WR position.

As for the "spare me" comment, not sure what that was supposed to mean. Gute takes athletic freaks in the first round when it is possible but will lessen his stance on athleticism in the later rounds........and this might be something he wants to look at since it is killing our special teams.
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Post#276 » by stillgotgame » Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:21 pm

Profound23 wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:
stillgotgame wrote:
Not at skill positions. Amari Rodgers was a low 5, Sternberger was a 5 and Josiah was a 6.
And please spare me the excuse that they weren’t 1st round picks. TT took Jordy, Jennings & James Jones all outside the 1st round.

It’s not that serious. Jeez. Just throwing out that Gute tends to lean on the side of athletes with a trend in his picks. Doesn’t mean Dotson won’t be a consideration but bringing in another GMs picks doesn’t exactly prove some point.



Yeah, last year we all pretty much narrowed it down to Stokes and a couple of others because we can see how Gute and Co. like to draft. I believe there are a couple of WRs they have over Dotson. Doesn't mean they won't draft Dotson if the others are gone, but I am confident he is not their first or second choice at the WR position.

As for the "spare me" comment, not sure what that was supposed to mean. Gute takes athletic freaks in the first round when it is possible but will lessen his stance on athleticism in the later rounds........and this might be something he wants to look at since it is killing our special teams.


The delusion on this board that Gute is some magical drafter is almost comical. He has no touch with skill position players.
He's spent a 1st, a 2nd, three 3rds, and two 4ths for backups.
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Post#277 » by Matches Malone » Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:30 pm

stillgotgame wrote:
Profound23 wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:It’s not that serious. Jeez. Just throwing out that Gute tends to lean on the side of athletes with a trend in his picks. Doesn’t mean Dotson won’t be a consideration but bringing in another GMs picks doesn’t exactly prove some point.



Yeah, last year we all pretty much narrowed it down to Stokes and a couple of others because we can see how Gute and Co. like to draft. I believe there are a couple of WRs they have over Dotson. Doesn't mean they won't draft Dotson if the others are gone, but I am confident he is not their first or second choice at the WR position.

As for the "spare me" comment, not sure what that was supposed to mean. Gute takes athletic freaks in the first round when it is possible but will lessen his stance on athleticism in the later rounds........and this might be something he wants to look at since it is killing our special teams.


The delusion on this board that Gute is some magical drafter is almost comical. He has no touch with skill position players.
He's spent a 1st, a 2nd, three 3rds, and two 4ths for backups.


Are we having the same conversation? Nobody is talking about his success as a drafter. Just pointing out trends in his previous drafts.
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Post#278 » by MVP2110 » Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:00 pm

Gutey has absolutely nailed the draft the 1st 2 rounds with the only real bust being Josh Jackson(we obviously don't know yet on Love) but his 3rd round has been abysmal. Day 3 picks are obviously going to have a much lower success rate but he's gotten a few decent guys like MVS, Royce Newman, & Jon Runyan. Plus he's found some good UDFAs like Tonyan, Barnes, and Nijman
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Post#279 » by LikeABosh » Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:54 pm

Matches Malone wrote:
stillgotgame wrote:
Profound23 wrote:

Yeah, last year we all pretty much narrowed it down to Stokes and a couple of others because we can see how Gute and Co. like to draft. I believe there are a couple of WRs they have over Dotson. Doesn't mean they won't draft Dotson if the others are gone, but I am confident he is not their first or second choice at the WR position.

As for the "spare me" comment, not sure what that was supposed to mean. Gute takes athletic freaks in the first round when it is possible but will lessen his stance on athleticism in the later rounds........and this might be something he wants to look at since it is killing our special teams.


The delusion on this board that Gute is some magical drafter is almost comical. He has no touch with skill position players.
He's spent a 1st, a 2nd, three 3rds, and two 4ths for backups.


Are we having the same conversation? Nobody is talking about his success as a drafter. Just pointing out trends in his previous drafts.


There are posters on this board whose entire purpose is just to disparage Gute. They are incapable of talking about anything else and that's what we have here
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Post#280 » by Matches Malone » Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:29 am

I think my new draft crush is Kenyon Green. Shades of Elgton Jenkins. Has starts all across the line except center. Projects to settle in at either guard spot or RT.
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