Political Roundtable Part XXX

[Zonkerbl]

What you have to understand is the argument. A isn't good so B.

Now A can be a fallacy but it still works. In this case A is anything the Democrats do and B is nothing.

If American citizens are collectively that stupid, why doesn't the same trick work for the Democrats? Why does it only go one way?

You don't have to fool everyone. You only need to fool a large minority ~25% for it to be effective. That 25% will amplify the fallacy making it difficult for most to keep up with reality.

Again, why doesn't that logic apply to the liberal side?

[Zonkerbl]

Using the same strategy on the liberal side should be easier because you don't have to spend any mental effort twisting the truth to reflect the reality you desire. All you have to do is spend the same amount of time and effort messaging what awful people conservatives are that Fox News and their evil brethren spend slandering liberals.

[Zonkerbl]

The answer is that this is a white supremacist country and it is easier to get white people to believe lies about non-whites than it is to get them to believe the truth about themselves. I don't know why I bother asking. Hate trumps truth.

[dckingsfan]

What you have to understand is the argument. A isn't good so B.

Now A can be a fallacy but it still works. In this case A is anything the Democrats do and B is nothing.

If American citizens are collectively that stupid, why doesn't the same trick work for the Democrats? Why does it only go one way?

Or why this?

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[dobrojim]

False equivalencies and nihilism

[Zonkerbl]

I blame Dungeons and Dragons

[Wizardspride]

The 35 year old federal judge that Trump nominated and McConnell confirmed post-2020 election overruled the CDC on the mask mandate for air travel. Obviously everyone has COVID fatique and is over wearing a mask on flights.

But the bigger picture...

200+ judges on the federal judiciary blessed by Fed Soc is going to not allow Dems to govern in popular ways for the next 4-5 decades.

And this is also the result of people sitting out elections/voting 3rd party and in some cases actually voting for Trump out of spite.

A combination of a few corporate Dems, racist and fascist Repubs and "sometime" voters have doomed this country.

We're screwed....

[dobrojim]

The elephant in the room is the question of whether a GOP win, particularly in 2024,
would be the last free and fair election for our country, not that the original system
isn't already biased in favor of white supremacists/fascists.

Reminder - the definition of fascism is the convergence of authoritarianism with violence.

[Zonkerbl]

Normally I would say Biden has an advantage because he's the incumbent but Trump has gotten constant coverage 24/7 Biden's entire Presidency. Right now I'd say there's about a 60% chance Trump wins in 2024. Given how old they are there's a good chance one of them dies between now and then, which would stir things up considerably

[verbal8]

Normally I would say Biden has an advantage because he's the incumbent but Trump has gotten constant coverage 24/7 Biden's entire Presidency. Right now I'd say there's about a 60% chance Trump wins in 2024. Given how old they are there's a good chance one of them dies between now and then, which would stir things up considerably

60% seems like a really high figure for an old geezer who lost the popular vote twice. I could buy a 60% chance of a GOP POTUS in 2024, but I think the chances of one other than Trump is significant. Even if Trump is the most likely GOP President, his chance might not be much more than 30%.

[FAH1223]

And this is also the result of people sitting out elections/voting 3rd party and in some cases actually voting for Trump out of spite.

A combination of a few corporate Dems, racist and fascist Repubs and "sometime" voters have doomed this country.

We're screwed....

If the Dems kept the Senate in 2014, the country would be in a lot better place right now.

The elephant in the room is the question of whether a GOP win, particularly in 2024,
would be the last free and fair election for our country, not that the original system
isn't already biased in favor of white supremacists/fascists.

Reminder - the definition of fascism is the convergence of authoritarianism with violence.

Normally I would say Biden has an advantage because he's the incumbent but Trump has gotten constant coverage 24/7 Biden's entire Presidency. Right now I'd say there's about a 60% chance Trump wins in 2024. Given how old they are there's a good chance one of them dies between now and then, which would stir things up considerably

60% seems like a really high figure for an old geezer who lost the popular vote twice. I could buy a 60% chance of a GOP POTUS in 2024, but I think the chances of one other than Trump is significant. Even if Trump is the most likely GOP President, his chance might not be much more than 30%.

Trump is definitely winning in 2024.

Now imagine him with a filibuster proof Senate along with a strengthened House majority.

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[Zonkerbl]

For example, this is clearly unhinged racist horsecrap. At least the Dems aren't afraid of using racism, yay

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[Zonkerbl]

It's almost as if this is a Russian plant

argh see the terrorists have won

[dobrojim]

New Democratic star in the making

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[queridiculo]

New Democratic star in the making

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Basically a mic drop rebuttal of the CRT, don't say gay nonsense that's apparently THE single most important issue the United States needs to concern itself now.

[dobrojim]

New Democratic star in the making

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Basically a mic drop rebuttal of the CRT, don't say gay nonsense that's apparently THE single most important issue the United States needs to concern itself now.

Backlash to KJB confirmation. Now all dems are groomers. Rather than
argue about relative merits of policy, just call your opponent the worst possible thing,
with no supporting evidence.

This from the party of Gym Jordan, Matt Gaetz etal.

[dckingsfan]

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New Democratic star in the making

Basically a mic drop rebuttal of the CRT, don't say gay nonsense that's apparently THE single most important issue the United States needs to concern itself now.

Damn!

[Pointgod]

I just don't understand the Democratic party. The Republicans nominated a horrible, fascist, lying, hedonist pro-abortion rapist once he flip flopped to be a right wing extremist, and the so called "centrist" Republicans all voted for him because "Hillary was worse." Which is an outstanding feat of mass mind control. But the Dems can't do the same? Republicans hate Hillary because of a manufactured propaganda campaign full of lies - Trump is *actually* that bad! And yet the Dems are afraid people will vote for him if they veer too far to the left? I call bullpucky.

If the Dems supported the squad the way the Republicans support MTG and similar scum on the right, we wouldn't be where we are, on the verge of massive losses in the house and in danger of losing control of the Senate for the last two years of Biden's term.

Exactly the same thing that happened to Obama, btw. Except he managed to hold on to the Senate. For awhile at least.

Republicans attack Democrats, Democrats attack other Democrats. Republicans fall in line, we all saw the embarrassing videos of people like Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham talking **** about Donald Trump only to completely fall in-line after the primary. Meanwhile the Democratic Party didn’t come out to support Hillary in full force, voted third party or lamented the fact they were unenthusiastically voting for Hillary.

Perfect example is that Twitter post that highlights everything that Biden didn’t do. When you also have actual members of Congress only talking about what Democrats haven’t done done and nothing about the really good things that have been able to get through or are being blocked by Republicans what do you expect the main takeaway to be from voters that don’t pay close attention to the politics of why things haven’t gotten done. Amplify this by a media that loves to play both sides and an established right wing media operation that amplifies lies and garbage, you’ll see Democrats don’t have the infrastructure to do the mass control on the level of Republicans.

[Pointgod]

And this is the type of blatant stupidity that Democrats have to deal with. Make no mistake this person is going to vote for Chuck Grassley because he’s been spoonfed a firehose of misinformation about the Democratic Party. People like the guy below are beyond help, but there’s a lot more people that aren’t political that hear this crap and decide well all politicians are crap so I won’t bother voting. And that’s where Republicans win, on the margins.

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[Zonkerbl]

New Democratic star in the making

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Basically a mic drop rebuttal of the CRT, don't say gay nonsense that's apparently THE single most important issue the United States needs to concern itself now.

Backlash to KJB confirmation. Now all dems are groomers. Rather than
argue about relative merits of policy, just call your opponent the worst possible thing,
with no supporting evidence.

This from the party of Gym Jordan, Matt Gaetz etal.

WaPo chimes in:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/04/20/mallory-mcmorrow-james-carville-wokeness-democrats/

Among many things that baffle me about today's politics is the stark political reality that right wing theocratic evangelicals are not just a small minority nationwide, they represent a small majority of *Christians.* This is not a whacko extremist religious country. There are loads and loads of Christians out there who actually adhere to Jesus' teachings, unlike the political (and therefore illegal! they should be taxed! it's not religion!) wing of the evangelical strain of Christianity. Why aren't they speaking up?

I really dig McMorrow's "no one is responsible for the past. We're responsible for the *future*"