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2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2.0

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Post#721 » by TheBoi10 » Sat Apr 23, 2022 6:11 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:Donovan Mitchell is surely gonna be available this off-season. Fred + Trent for Mitchell ?

Next year's squad: Barnes/Mitchell/OG/Siakam/Precious

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Post#722 » by Clutch0z24 » Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:47 am

I just think we need to get a few players who fit around Barnes better...Siakam takes the ball out of Barnes hands and Siakam is also a big who likes to bring the ball up the floor but does not possess the passing ability Barnes has...It will hinder his development if we keep Siakam....FVV is also not the PG that fits with Barnes...Fvv is a high volume shooter and likes to dribble for 10 seconds before making a pass....

We need to build around Barnes/OG/GTJr/Precious and add different type of players around them....Package FVV/Siakam for a deal that will bring you a different type of player...If that player is a shot creating wing/Elite level PG/A defensive stopping Big man Im all for the change

We will see in the offseason who becomes available but one thing i worry about is Masai in the past does not make many trades unless its a homerun for him...He mostly stands pat and will keep the same roster with minor tweaks even if people want Said player gone
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Post#723 » by Psubs » Sat Apr 23, 2022 2:55 pm

Damn, Ayton with 28 pts and 17 rebs. Don't think they'll sign and trade him for Pascal anymore. Was going to ask for exta 1st picks but I would do it straight up.
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Post#724 » by italraptors » Sat Apr 23, 2022 6:55 pm

TheBoi10 wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:Donovan Mitchell is surely gonna be available this off-season. Fred + Trent for Mitchell ?

Next year's squad: Barnes/Mitchell/OG/Siakam/Precious

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i want mitchell badly. id even do a siakim fred for conley mitchell. or siakim straight up for mitchell. both trades work
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Post#725 » by OhCanada1091 » Sat Apr 23, 2022 10:24 pm

Toronto should try to make a play for NAW this offseason. He's out of the rotation in Utah and has alot of untapped potential. Really provides a need and his length fits our agenda as a backup SG. What weve been trying to get from Flynn, Svi and Brooks. Think he has a 5 mil team option for Utah to make a decision on.
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Post#726 » by wegotthabeet » Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:58 pm

Clutch0z24 wrote:I just think we need to get a few players who fit around Barnes better...Siakam takes the ball out of Barnes hands and Siakam is also a big who likes to bring the ball up the floor but does not possess the passing ability Barnes has...It will hinder his development if we keep Siakam....FVV is also not the PG that fits with Barnes...Fvv is a high volume shooter and likes to dribble for 10 seconds before making a pass....

We need to build around Barnes/OG/GTJr/Precious and add different type of players around them....Package FVV/Siakam for a deal that will bring you a different type of player...If that player is a shot creating wing/Elite level PG/A defensive stopping Big man Im all for the change

We will see in the offseason who becomes available but one thing i worry about is Masai in the past does not make many trades unless its a homerun for him...He mostly stands pat and will keep the same roster with minor tweaks even if people want Said player gone


I think the Barnes & Siakam fit works. I wouldn't deal either without it being a home run type of deal. To me it's like this.

Keepers - Barnes, OG, Siakam, Precious.
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Post#727 » by Lateral Quicks » Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:14 pm

Clutch0z24 wrote:I just think we need to get a few players who fit around Barnes better...Siakam takes the ball out of Barnes hands and Siakam is also a big who likes to bring the ball up the floor but does not possess the passing ability Barnes has...It will hinder his development if we keep Siakam....FVV is also not the PG that fits with Barnes...Fvv is a high volume shooter and likes to dribble for 10 seconds before making a pass....

We need to build around Barnes/OG/GTJr/Precious and add different type of players around them....Package FVV/Siakam for a deal that will bring you a different type of player...If that player is a shot creating wing/Elite level PG/A defensive stopping Big man Im all for the change

We will see in the offseason who becomes available but one thing i worry about is Masai in the past does not make many trades unless its a homerun for him...He mostly stands pat and will keep the same roster with minor tweaks even if people want Said player gone


Siakam is the type of player that can fit well beside just about anyone. He's been handling the rock a lot because we don't use a traditional backup PG, and because he's usually playing with other guys that aren't the greatest creators. As Barnes continues to develop, Pascal can go back to his more typical role of pushing the ball up via fast break, punishing mismatches in the paint, and draining the corner three. Pascal is basically the prototype player the Raptors want to develop, minus perhaps more consistent three-point shooting. We won't be giving him up.

If there's any core player we're moving on from, it has to be FVV. He's a great player, but he doesn't fit the position-less basketball the Raptors want to play going forward.
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Post#728 » by DreamTeam09 » Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:20 pm

Shake Milton probably becomes our MLE target. 6'5 3+D PG who can guard multiple positions. Will be able to get into the paint and finish or kick from the guard spot which is missing
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Post#729 » by PoundTown » Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:58 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:Shake Milton probably becomes our MLE target. 6'5 3+D PG who can guard multiple positions. Will be able to get into the paint and finish or kick from the guard spot which is missing


He’s decent and never really considered him until you brought him up now, but also some other candidates ive been think about as possibilities could be Cody Martin and josh Richardson I’d say too. More combos than points, but I think that’s no problem in a line up that has one of Freddy/Gary and one of pascal or Scottie.
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Post#730 » by DreamTeam09 » Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:13 pm

PoundTown wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:Shake Milton probably becomes our MLE target. 6'5 3+D PG who can guard multiple positions. Will be able to get into the paint and finish or kick from the guard spot which is missing


He’s decent and never really considered him until you brought him up now, but also some other candidates ive been think about as possibilities could be Cody Martin and josh Richardson I’d say too. More combos than points, but I think that’s no problem in a line up that has one of Freddy/Gary and one of pascal or Scottie.


Nurse wants a PG out there, played Fred a lot, tried Banton early, and then went to Flynn several times even when he probably didn't deserve it. Milton gives him a safety blanket.
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Post#731 » by OhCanada1091 » Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:38 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:
PoundTown wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:Shake Milton probably becomes our MLE target. 6'5 3+D PG who can guard multiple positions. Will be able to get into the paint and finish or kick from the guard spot which is missing


He’s decent and never really considered him until you brought him up now, but also some other candidates ive been think about as possibilities could be Cody Martin and josh Richardson I’d say too. More combos than points, but I think that’s no problem in a line up that has one of Freddy/Gary and one of pascal or Scottie.


Nurse wants a PG out there, played Fred a lot, tried Banton early, and then went to Flynn several times even when he probably didn't deserve it. Milton gives him a safety blanket.

Shake has alot more to his game then Philly lets him do and would actually perform better in a higher usage role. An injury to begin the season, Maxey's emergence and Embiid's constant gravity of the ball slowed down his progression this year. The Harden trade pretty much was the nail in the coffin for an increased role. I think teams offer him decent money.
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Post#732 » by Tripod » Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:40 pm

Mitchel to me....seems to sn anti-team guy. Every time watch him, he ignores Rudy constantly even when it's obvious Rudy has a bad match covering him. Then he blames others constantly while ignoring he is the one to blame plenty of times.

He is very skilled and talented, but not sure he is a good teammate.
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Post#733 » by Asif16 » Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:10 pm

Absolutely need to get a combo guard this off-season. Lack of creation and playmaking on half-court offense is just abysmal to watch on most nights.

A tyus Jones or a Donte Divecenzo would be ideal
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Post#734 » by Bruin » Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:12 pm

Asif16 wrote:Absolutely need to get a combo guard this off-season. Lack of creation and playmaking on half-court offense is just abysmal to watch on most nights.

A tyus Jones or a Donte Divecenzo would be ideal

Tyus is gonna go somewhere where he can start and rightfully so. He’s gonna get paid
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Post#735 » by Merit » Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:34 pm

I believe in Masai.
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Post#736 » by Scottie4Bro » Mon Apr 25, 2022 12:43 am

I reiterate my previous trade idea, but have no idea if either side does it:

Fred and Birch for Ball and Caruso.
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Post#737 » by DreamTeam09 » Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:01 am

OhCanada1091 wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:
PoundTown wrote:
He’s decent and never really considered him until you brought him up now, but also some other candidates ive been think about as possibilities could be Cody Martin and josh Richardson I’d say too. More combos than points, but I think that’s no problem in a line up that has one of Freddy/Gary and one of pascal or Scottie.


Nurse wants a PG out there, played Fred a lot, tried Banton early, and then went to Flynn several times even when he probably didn't deserve it. Milton gives him a safety blanket.

Shake has alot more to his game then Philly lets him do and would actually perform better in a higher usage role. An injury to begin the season, Maxey's emergence and Embiid's constant gravity of the ball slowed down his progression this year. The Harden trade pretty much was the nail in the coffin for an increased role. I think teams offer him decent money.


I think he's a MLE player, only a couple of teams have real capspace. I agree he has more to show
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Post#738 » by Rodrickle » Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:29 am

DreamTeam09 wrote:
OhCanada1091 wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:
Nurse wants a PG out there, played Fred a lot, tried Banton early, and then went to Flynn several times even when he probably didn't deserve it. Milton gives him a safety blanket.

Shake has alot more to his game then Philly lets him do and would actually perform better in a higher usage role. An injury to begin the season, Maxey's emergence and Embiid's constant gravity of the ball slowed down his progression this year. The Harden trade pretty much was the nail in the coffin for an increased role. I think teams offer him decent money.


I think he's a MLE player, only a couple of teams have real capspace. I agree he has more to show
Doesn't he have a team option next year for under $2M. Doubt they decline that

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Post#739 » by Spida888 » Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:47 am

Scottie4Bro wrote:I reiterate my previous trade idea, but have no idea if either side does it:

Fred and Birch for Ball and Caruso.

I like Ball and Caruso but not sure if that elevates our team? It’s pretty good value though if Masai senses that Freds next contract will be out of our price range.

Don’t think bulls give up much unless they know Fred is committed long term and will be on a reasonable contract. Lavine will likely get the max. A Lavine, Fred and Demar trio is pretty expensive and won’t go very far in the playoffs.
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Post#740 » by WaltFrazier » Mon Apr 25, 2022 4:55 am

Merit wrote:https://clutchpoints.com/heat-rumors-jimmy-butler-shockingly-told-erik-spoelstra-that-he-does-not-want-to-play-with-victor-oladipo/?utm_source=vuukle&utm_medium=talk_of_town

Not sure how reliable, but if Jimmy doesn't want to play with Dipo - the Raps should definitely swoop in.


Swoop in for Victor, or Jimmy? :D


Victor did play tonight, were they ever on court together? I watched parts of it but hadn't heard this rumor then.
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