2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2.0

[douggood]

Anyway we can grab Christian wood? I think he'll fit perfect in our system.

he is TERRIBLE defensively, he will be played off the court playoff time. has attitude problems as well; no way masai trades for him.

[Morris_Shatford]

Anyway we can grab Christian wood? I think he'll fit perfect in our system.

If the Rox don't move him at the draft or over the summer I think he becomes a more palatable trade target because you essentially trading for the balance of next season as well as his bird rights.

If he is still with the Rox around December of next season, I don't think the cost to add him would be prohibitive at all.
If you want to be the team that gives him that next deal is an entirely different question.

That's true, he is right now at 13-14m a season which is a bargain for the next 1-2 years I believe. He does put up numbers and is a great defensive C that will pair well with Pascal.

Wood
Capella
Turner
Allen
Ayton

Any of these C if we can acquire for a Fvv ++ trade would be a win giving the reigns to Barnes at PG and we can go with the longboizz lineup. Imo if we have a big defensive C, we can be a ECF+ team

All of those guys (save for Capella, maybe even Wood due to D IMO) would look great in the system;

The challenge is Turner and Wood have one more season left before they need to get paid and Ayton is due his first post rookie extension this summer (I would assume near max?)

The challenge you have is I don't think the C's on the list that are putting up strong offensive numbers (Wood & Ayton in particular) are going to get the same amount of FGA they are getting currently when surrounded by this starting core (in whatever combination it is). You are essentially paying a premium for these guys with the understanding they will be lower on the offensive pecking order than the are on the current squads.

In Wood's case he isn't exactly the defensive stud you want on this sort of line-up and if you are trading off the offense it becomes a tougher sell even if he comes cheaper.

My unpopular 0.02 is that I don't think we need to make a major system change around the five. I think Precious will get there eventually and to address the "size" issue when we play what few "monster" fives are left in the NBA, I would rather chase a guy who can play situational minutes off the bench when needed and run the "long bois" line-up the other 95% of the time.

I would spend the assets and the money on shooting and a thicker bench.

[grant101]

Anyway we can grab Christian wood? I think he'll fit perfect in our system.

If the Rox don't move him at the draft or over the summer I think he becomes a more palatable trade target because you essentially trading for the balance of next season as well as his bird rights.

If he is still with the Rox around December of next season, I don't think the cost to add him would be prohibitive at all.
If you want to be the team that gives him that next deal is an entirely different question.

That's true, he is right now at 13-14m a season which is a bargain for the next 1-2 years I believe. He does put up numbers and is a great defensive C that will pair well with Pascal.

Wood
Capella
Turner
Allen
Ayton

Any of these C if we can aquire for a Fvv ++ trade would be a win giving the reigns to Barnes at PG and we can go with the longboizz lineup. Imo if we have a big defensive C, we can be a ECF+ team

Please keep Wood far away from this team! He is far from a good defender, and there's a reason he wears out his welcome wherever he goes. One of the laziest players in the league. No Thanks.

On the other hand, I like a lot of the other names you listed. Would add Claxton as well.

[Morris_Shatford]

Would add Claxton as well.

The Slim Reaper doesn't get as much mention as he should.

While I think the Nets who are well over the tax would be insane to not sign every last one of the FAs the summer, I think if you make it painful enough with an offer sheet you may be able to shake him loose.

You are taking a risk by spending money on what he may become (he is only 23) rather than what he is, but that its certainly a risk worth considering if you can add him without giving anything for him.

[AbC?]

How in the world does Wood have any reputation whatsoever as a good defender? Lmao. Guy is terrible. Bad attitude, statpadding loser.

[agkagk]

I think Masai moving FVV, GTJ, or whoever for a mixed package of smaller deals and mid to late-ish lotto picks isn't going to be the likely outcome of the summer.

Masai allowed DeRozan/Lowry to run it back for five seasons before making that major deal and even then it was for an established piece rather than parts.

Investigating the value for FVV or GTJ likely gets done simply because they are both almost certain to opt out in the summer of 2023 making them essentially expiring deals.

While one may get moved at some-point next season I really think given that Masai has some fairly higher end young pieces in OG and Barnes and some promising ones beyond that the goal would likely be to move one big contract plus "stuff" for a better player with a better positional fit.

Even with that said, I wouldn't put it beyond Masai to run in back as is with minor additions around the edge next season and end up retaining both guys the following summer.

Ya don’t expect fire works.

A legit six man and turning birch’s spot into a 7 footer.

Probably not much else.

[Madhouse]

Birch upgrade like Claxton and 3 and D rotational player like Covington.

[agkagk]

Read on Twitter

hes injured and he still sets the tone.


theres little to zero chance of us improving by trading fred and masai isnt going backwards.


Fred's our general, get used to it.

Precious, trent, barnes. Three players who have improved night and day while playing under fred's influence.

Hes better at his age then lowry was.

why do i read this thread lol

the future starting lineup is Precious, Trent, Barnes, Siakam and OG.

Also saying he is better than Lowry at 28 is extremely laughable.

But even more laughable that you think a talent like Barnes needs someone like FVV to improve. If anything it was the acquisition of Young that let Barnes and Achiuwa grow.

Im happy you had an extreme laugh, now I kindly suggest you actually compare their stats at the same age.

I was surprised by how favourable it is to Fred.

And if you think a rookie like Barnes didn’t benefit from pascal, birch and especially their floor general Fred, then you are either new to the NBA or you sniff glue.

[Madhouse]

hes injured and he still sets the tone.


theres little to zero chance of us improving by trading fred and masai isnt going backwards.


Fred's our general, get used to it.

Precious, trent, barnes. Three players who have improved night and day while playing under fred's influence.

Hes better at his age then lowry was.

why do i read this thread lol

the future starting lineup is Precious, Trent, Barnes, Siakam and OG.

Also saying he is better than Lowry at 28 is extremely laughable.

But even more laughable that you think a talent like Barnes needs someone like FVV to improve. If anything it was the acquisition of Young that let Barnes and Achiuwa grow.

Im happy you had an extreme laugh, now I kindly suggest you actually compare their stats at the same age.

I was surprised by how favourable it is to Fred.

And if you think a rookie like Barnes didn’t benefit from pascal, birch and especially their floor general Fred, then you are either new to the NBA or you sniff glue.

He benefits from his talent mostly. And good for you to include Birch...

But funny how you call Fred a 'floor general'.

[Asif16]

Atlanta has a decision to make on Clint Capela this offseason. Okongu should absolutely be a starter and is young baller.

They have to clear out salary. Wonder if Capela is odd man out

[Tripod]

With Fred, it's going to one down to 1 thing.....money.

We don't have enough to pay them all and Fred will want the #2 money behind PS....but he won't be that #2 option on his next contract. We saw in Parlay that he was willing to walk away ftom the Raps if another team offered the same money("then I will just leave").

He or Gary will be gone. I think they will try and keep the cheaper, younger, taller option. Now if Gary wants to leave, then that changes things. And if Fred is kept, he needs to become a shooter who plays off ball and runs around looking to get open for open shots. Not ideal for someone with a knee and now hip issue.

[Spida888]

No thanks to Claxton after watching him go 1/11 at the line last night. We have enough FT shooting woes on our team. I get anxiety watching Precious already every time at the line and at least he usually hits one of them.

I won't be able to watch Clankston when he goes to the line for us lol.

[sule]

I'd like to see us bring in Steven Adams. A strong, strong bench body who can provide quality minutes and play bully against some of the bigger C's in the league.

Imagine having Steven Adams out there to put some hurt into our opponents, and then have them have to go up against the rest of our long lineup?

It'd be absolutely brutal.

Raps need to be long and strong.

[douggood]

I'd like to see us bring in Steven Adams. A strong, strong bench body who can provide quality minutes and play bully against some of the bigger C's in the league.

Imagine having Steven Adams out there to put some hurt into our opponents, and then have them have to go up against the rest of our long lineup?

It'd be absolutely brutal.

Raps need to be long and strong.

the guy who got DNP tonight, after playing 3 or 4 minutes last 2 games.
the same guy?

[Kingsway_fan]

As most have said.. masai should focus on the core of Barnes, Pascal, og and precious.... Trent and Fred should be tradeable for an upgrade at sg If possible.
Resign Boucher and extend young for depth...

Try to unload Birch and Flynn and svi.

[sule]

I'd like to see us bring in Steven Adams. A strong, strong bench body who can provide quality minutes and play bully against some of the bigger C's in the league.

Imagine having Steven Adams out there to put some hurt into our opponents, and then have them have to go up against the rest of our long lineup?

It'd be absolutely brutal.

Raps need to be long and strong.

the guy who got DNP tonight, after playing 3 or 4 minutes last 2 games.
the same guy?

You don't think a 28-year old 7-foot tank like Steven Adams taking charges that leave bruises on our opponents wouldn't open things up for our guys to drive into the lane or be more effective defensively?

FVV has been basically unplayable in our series with Philly. Doesn't mean he doesn't have utility. Just means a bad matchup.

Imagine if we had Adams playing 10 minutes a game against this Philly team in Games 1 and 2. Maxey and Embiid wouldn't have been having their way in the post against us.

Defensively, he'd be the closest thing we had to Gasol during the 2019 run. Big, strong guy taking up space forcing penetrating guards to take long shots or pass out to the corners. Our long bois could easily turn those into turnovers and fast breaks.

[Asif16]

Could totally see Nurse and Masai being interested in bringing back Delon Wright in Free Agency. Defense first Guard with good playmaking. Has the length and athleticism to guard multiple positions. Had a good showing with the Hawks

Just seems like the Ideal raptor type of player

[Kingsway_fan]

Jalen Brunson.. wow 28, 5,5 during the playoffs... Ufa.. Detroit and Knicks gonna go hard for him... I would, too... way >>>> Fred.

[Rodrickle]

I'd like to see us bring in Steven Adams. A strong, strong bench body who can provide quality minutes and play bully against some of the bigger C's in the league.

Imagine having Steven Adams out there to put some hurt into our opponents, and then have them have to go up against the rest of our long lineup?

It'd be absolutely brutal.

Raps need to be long and strong.

the guy who got DNP tonight, after playing 3 or 4 minutes last 2 games.
the same guy?

You don't think a 28-year old 7-foot tank like Steven Adams taking charges that leave bruises on our opponents wouldn't open things up for our guys to drive into the lane or be more effective defensively?

FVV has been basically unplayable in our series with Philly. Doesn't mean he doesn't have utility. Just means a bad matchup.

Imagine if we had Adams playing 10 minutes a game against this Philly team in Games 1 and 2. Maxey and Embiid wouldn't have been having their way in the post against us.

Defensively, he'd be the closest thing we had to Gasol during the 2019 run. Big, strong guy taking up space forcing penetrating guards to take long shots or pass out to the corners. Our long bois could easily turn those into turnovers and fast breaks.

He's not as good as Gasol defensively. Gasol can hedge much better and make it back into the paint. But the bigger issue is how would we trade for his 17m salary, and justify that with him playing a Birch type role?

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[douggood]

I'd like to see us bring in Steven Adams. A strong, strong bench body who can provide quality minutes and play bully against some of the bigger C's in the league.

Imagine having Steven Adams out there to put some hurt into our opponents, and then have them have to go up against the rest of our long lineup?

It'd be absolutely brutal.

Raps need to be long and strong.

the guy who got DNP tonight, after playing 3 or 4 minutes last 2 games.
the same guy?

You don't think a 28-year old 7-foot tank like Steven Adams taking charges that leave bruises on our opponents wouldn't open things up for our guys to drive into the lane or be more effective defensively?

FVV has been basically unplayable in our series with Philly. Doesn't mean he doesn't have utility. Just means a bad matchup.

Imagine if we had Adams playing 10 minutes a game against this Philly team in Games 1 and 2. Maxey and Embiid wouldn't have been having their way in the post against us.

Defensively, he'd be the closest thing we had to Gasol during the 2019 run. Big, strong guy taking up space forcing penetrating guards to take long shots or pass out to the corners. Our long bois could easily turn those into turnovers and fast breaks.

just look around the playoffs, its skill players playing, if you happen to be big that's a bonus. bangers/big bodies are for the dog days of the season to get you to the playoffs.

and even vs the sixers playing adams plays right into the way embidd would rater play, guard a player near the post, bang 1 on 1. its advantage embidd if you play adams vs the sixers.

players like adams, drummond, clint capela ; even rudy gobert gets attacked/gameplanned against. being big isnt a skill.