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Re: 21/22 College Basketball - It's Tourney Time! 

Post#321 » by machu46 » Sat Apr 23, 2022 10:40 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:A Creighton coach offered a guard 100k. I think all the teams, including the mid-levels, are doing this at some level. But yea, in a lot of cases this is going to come down to who has the richest donors with a desire to win.

Yeah, I mean, I know during my time at Syracuse, even the walkons were getting paid. Syracuse is relatively offering pennies compared to the blue bloods though. They haven’t figured out how to really play the NIL game yet.


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Re: 21/22 College Basketball - It's Tourney Time! 

Post#322 » by ReasonablySober » Sat Apr 23, 2022 10:43 pm

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ReasonablySober wrote:A Creighton coach offered a guard 100k. I think all the teams, including the mid-levels, are doing this at some level. But yea, in a lot of cases this is going to come down to who has the richest donors with a desire to win.

Yeah, I mean, I know during my time at Syracuse, even the walkons were getting paid. Syracuse is relatively offering pennies compared to the blue bloods though. They haven’t figured out how to really play the NIL game yet.


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Re: 21/22 College Basketball - It's Tourney Time! 

Post#323 » by machu46 » Sat Apr 23, 2022 10:55 pm

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ReasonablySober wrote:A Creighton coach offered a guard 100k. I think all the teams, including the mid-levels, are doing this at some level. But yea, in a lot of cases this is going to come down to who has the richest donors with a desire to win.

Yeah, I mean, I know during my time at Syracuse, even the walkons were getting paid. Syracuse is relatively offering pennies compared to the blue bloods though. They haven’t figured out how to really play the NIL game yet.


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Dude I was a baseball player at UW Stout and there were shenanigans going in.

Lol well at least you capitalized. My two regrets about not trying to walk on is that we had a final four run while I was there and that I missed out on the money and free ****


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Post#324 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Apr 26, 2022 7:05 pm

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Post#326 » by MikeIsGood » Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:23 am

Holy ****. I wasn't sure where it would go next. That...is an escalation.
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Post#327 » by midranger » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:22 am

College sports are dead
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Post#328 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:23 am

midranger wrote:College sports are dead


I mean, it's just above board now.
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Post#329 » by MikeIsGood » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:29 am

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midranger wrote:College sports are dead


I mean, it's just above board now.


It’s not. The combination of it being above board with the open transfer portal has led to this incredible chaos.

And it probably needed to burn. I’m not saying it would be right to just let it continue to be an underground market. But it’s clearly escalated now.
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Post#330 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:32 am

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midranger wrote:College sports are dead


I mean, it's just above board now.


It’s not. The combination of it being above board with the open transfer portal has led to this incredible chaos.

And it probably needed to burn. I’m not saying it would be right to just let it continue to be an underground market. But it’s clearly escalated now.


You're right, my bad, it's the transfer portal that's causing insane chaos now.
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Post#331 » by MikeIsGood » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:35 am

Yeah. I think we may have been able to survive one or the other. I do think just moving money into visibility would still pose new challenges, but doing it in addition to open transfer portal…I just don’t know how they thought this would go. What a mess.
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Post#332 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:43 am

MikeIsGood wrote:Yeah. I think we may have been able to survive one or the other. I do think just moving money into visibility would still pose new challenges, but doing it in addition to open transfer portal…I just don’t know how they thought this would go. What a mess.


I think they thought it would be a disaster, which is why they fought it in the Supreme Court.

All that said, I don't really hate this? I think it makes the sport very interesting. I like knowing which schools are trying to have a seat at the table. What Miami is doing is hilarious to me and I'm fascinated to see if it works.
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Post#333 » by Kerb Hohl » Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:59 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
MikeIsGood wrote:Yeah. I think we may have been able to survive one or the other. I do think just moving money into visibility would still pose new challenges, but doing it in addition to open transfer portal…I just don’t know how they thought this would go. What a mess.


I think they thought it would be a disaster, which is why they fought it in the Supreme Court.

All that said, I don't really hate this? I think it makes the sport very interesting. I like knowing which schools are trying to have a seat at the table. What Miami is doing is hilarious to me and I'm fascinated to see if it works.


I'm not sure what to think. It's probably not great for my fandom of the Badgers, but it's great that the players can get theirs. The older generation that grew up with amateur students they can watch grow and develop over 4 years is fading out of the picture...however, if it becomes an unrecognizable minor league where star players are holding out for more money or whatever during the season...that might be fine? I'm not sure.

Currently I'm still very into college football/basketball, but that is subject to change if it turns into 5 power brokers going further than we even had before and then just wild free agency at the whims of 19-year-olds.
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Re: 21/22 College Basketball - It's Tourney Time! 

Post#334 » by Mtsportsfan » Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:27 pm

This is crap, ruining college sports. I get the players want to get paid , but this getting out of control. At the very least they should only allow one transfer per player and that's it . if said player wants to transfer again then he has to sit a year, and I don't care what excuse they have , needs to be a hard line on that.
Why would the blue bloods even recruit , let them develop somewhere else and then poach them when they are ready. This starting to remind me of MLB. Develop players and when you can't afford to sign them you trade them to a team that can . difference is in college is that you are not trading , your just losing.
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Re: 21/22 College Basketball - It's Tourney Time! 

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Post#336 » by emunney » Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:42 pm

Man **** college sports. There's college and there's sports. The connection has been vestigial for decades. Just because something was doesn't mean it always should be.
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Post#337 » by Kerb Hohl » Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:50 pm

emunney wrote:Man **** college sports. There's college and there's sports. The connection has been vestigial for decades. Just because something was doesn't mean it always should be.


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Post#338 » by Kerb Hohl » Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:58 pm

There are kinda 2 camps of people.

Some are very interested/focused on the economics/players getting paid, etc...I personally agree players can/should get some compensation. I understand what some were getting at for years.

There are others that are in the camp of, "entertain me to what I like to watch." I'm more in this camp. There are still people that want the kids to truly be amateurs and hate that they get paid, but most in here, yes, think that things should be more fair and it shouldn't be a University president soaking in the $ and it should go to Zion Williamson or whatever, but I personally don't give that much of a ****. I'll move on to something else I'd rather watch if they tear down the sport based on this.

While I realize it's a bit hypocritical, yeah, I think the players should be compensated, but in the end, I've got kids, a job, bills...entertain me. I like to cheer for the Wisconsin Badgers and the rivalries of college sports. If they turn it into a fully amateur sports league...I might take my time elsewhere?

The real question/fine line is that the "NBA is better, I am hyperfocused on players getting compensation" crowd may just create another NBA, potentially driving the other camp away from college sports.

Maybe that's fine. Maybe that's what we wanted? It's capitalism and people running things are probably smart enough to create something that people will want to watch from college sports. Or maybe it won't, and Nijel Pack and Isaiah Wong can take their services to the professional league of the Sioux Falls SkyForce or whatever the **** their name is and get paid as a professional as some originally wanted all along.
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Post#339 » by emunney » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:08 pm

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emunney wrote:Man **** college sports. There's college and there's sports. The connection has been vestigial for decades. Just because something was doesn't mean it always should be.


Good for you.


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Post#340 » by Kerb Hohl » Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:28 pm

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Kerb Hohl wrote:
emunney wrote:Man **** college sports. There's college and there's sports. The connection has been vestigial for decades. Just because something was doesn't mean it always should be.


Good for you.


I didn't say anything about me?


Implicitly, yes.

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