Who do you want us to take at #1?

[basketballRob]

I am just not concerned with Jabari's ball handling right now for this team. Fultz, Suggs and Franz are going be asked to be the ball handlers/play makers. I just need him to make a ton of shots off their playmaking. Plus he seems like a harder worker his ball handling will come. All he needs to be is a better Rashard Lewis and Rashard was pretty damn good for us. I mean we are looking at almost a spitting image of a nucleus to those Dwight teams. Franz= Turk, Smith= Rashard, Carter=a more skilled less imposing Dwight and some variation of Fultz/Anthony/Suggs can be the Jameer. Actually if Isaac could stay healthy he could be the skiled Dwight with his rim protection and how small ball is going, no reason he couldn't be the center.

I just think the Franz and Smith pick and role can be Turk and Lewis on roids. I'm cool with Chet...I'll have to be persuaded on Paulo but Jabari would fit like a glove here. Imagine the lineups you could throw out there with everyone over 6'10...Isaac, Franz, Carter, Bamba, Jabari...sheeesh.

I’m not opposed to drafting Smith. It’s the fact we’d pick him first and the potential to miss out on higher ceiling guys that concerns me.

What if Shaedon is 6’5 Tmac? What if Chet becomes AD with more 3 point shooting?

Lose out on that for Shard Lewis would be fed up

What if Smith becomes KD and OKC gets him #2, just like they did years ago when Portland took Oden #1?

Miss out on that for Porzingas.

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[89Magicfan]

I am just not concerned with Jabari's ball handling right now for this team. Fultz, Suggs and Franz are going be asked to be the ball handlers/play makers. I just need him to make a ton of shots off their playmaking. Plus he seems like a harder worker his ball handling will come. All he needs to be is a better Rashard Lewis and Rashard was pretty damn good for us. I mean we are looking at almost a spitting image of a nucleus to those Dwight teams. Franz= Turk, Smith= Rashard, Carter=a more skilled less imposing Dwight and some variation of Fultz/Anthony/Suggs can be the Jameer. Actually if Isaac could stay healthy he could be the skiled Dwight with his rim protection and how small ball is going, no reason he couldn't be the center.

I just think the Franz and Smith pick and role can be Turk and Lewis on roids. I'm cool with Chet...I'll have to be persuaded on Paulo but Jabari would fit like a glove here. Imagine the lineups you could throw out there with everyone over 6'10...Isaac, Franz, Carter, Bamba, Jabari...sheeesh.

I’m not opposed to drafting Smith. It’s the fact we’d pick him first and the potential to miss out on higher ceiling guys that concerns me.

What if Shaedon is 6’5 Tmac? What if Chet becomes AD with more 3 point shooting?

Lose out on that for Shard Lewis would be fed up

What if Smith becomes KD and OKC gets him #2, just like they did years ago when Portland took Oden #1?

Miss out on that for Porzingas.

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Except he resembles nothing like KD.

[Hogified05]

I am just not concerned with Jabari's ball handling right now for this team. Fultz, Suggs and Franz are going be asked to be the ball handlers/play makers. I just need him to make a ton of shots off their playmaking. Plus he seems like a harder worker his ball handling will come. All he needs to be is a better Rashard Lewis and Rashard was pretty damn good for us. I mean we are looking at almost a spitting image of a nucleus to those Dwight teams. Franz= Turk, Smith= Rashard, Carter=a more skilled less imposing Dwight and some variation of Fultz/Anthony/Suggs can be the Jameer. Actually if Isaac could stay healthy he could be the skiled Dwight with his rim protection and how small ball is going, no reason he couldn't be the center.

I just think the Franz and Smith pick and role can be Turk and Lewis on roids. I'm cool with Chet...I'll have to be persuaded on Paulo but Jabari would fit like a glove here. Imagine the lineups you could throw out there with everyone over 6'10...Isaac, Franz, Carter, Bamba, Jabari...sheeesh.

I’m not opposed to drafting Smith. It’s the fact we’d pick him first and the potential to miss out on higher ceiling guys that concerns me.

What if Shaedon is 6’5 Tmac? What if Chet becomes AD with more 3 point shooting?

Lose out on that for Shard Lewis would be fed up

This Sharpe stuff is weird to me. He may very well be a good player but let someone else take that chance. I'd take the chance if we fell to like 4th or 5th but 1st seems wild to me. I don't like this shortcut to the pros stuff. I'd rather a guy compete, feels like he is trying to hide something. You get this short cut to success mentality I don't think serves him well.

I'd be fine with Chet. It's just going take awhile for him to reach his potential. I'm tired of waiting. Jabari will be a 20 ppg player in the NBA I am confident to say. Dude will shot the piss out of the ball something we need. Plus he doesn't need the ball with all our guards and Franz. I think if we draft Jabari we at least in the play in games next year and we in the playoffs for sure in two years.

[nicnac215]

I cannot believe the majority of people want JSJ at #1. I don’t think there is any chance that happens in reality so I will continue to ignore the majority on here.

Why you can't believe this?
Who do you draft?

Because he is one dimensional on offense. I would take Paolo. Chet would be my 2nd choice. I’d even rather go with Ivey then Smith. I want guys who can put it on the floor. Watching Jalen this year was very difficult.

[basketballRob]

I’m not opposed to drafting Smith. It’s the fact we’d pick him first and the potential to miss out on higher ceiling guys that concerns me.

What if Shaedon is 6’5 Tmac? What if Chet becomes AD with more 3 point shooting?

Lose out on that for Shard Lewis would be fed up

What if Smith becomes KD and OKC gets him #2, just like they did years ago when Portland took Oden #1?

Miss out on that for Porzingas.

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Except he resembles nothing like KD.

His outside shooting does. I've seen OKC fans throwing around the KD comparisons.

Chet doesn't look like AD, he weighs like 60 less pounds than him.

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[89Magicfan]

I am just not concerned with Jabari's ball handling right now for this team. Fultz, Suggs and Franz are going be asked to be the ball handlers/play makers. I just need him to make a ton of shots off their playmaking. Plus he seems like a harder worker his ball handling will come. All he needs to be is a better Rashard Lewis and Rashard was pretty damn good for us. I mean we are looking at almost a spitting image of a nucleus to those Dwight teams. Franz= Turk, Smith= Rashard, Carter=a more skilled less imposing Dwight and some variation of Fultz/Anthony/Suggs can be the Jameer. Actually if Isaac could stay healthy he could be the skiled Dwight with his rim protection and how small ball is going, no reason he couldn't be the center.

I just think the Franz and Smith pick and role can be Turk and Lewis on roids. I'm cool with Chet...I'll have to be persuaded on Paulo but Jabari would fit like a glove here. Imagine the lineups you could throw out there with everyone over 6'10...Isaac, Franz, Carter, Bamba, Jabari...sheeesh.

I’m not opposed to drafting Smith. It’s the fact we’d pick him first and the potential to miss out on higher ceiling guys that concerns me.

What if Shaedon is 6’5 Tmac? What if Chet becomes AD with more 3 point shooting?

Lose out on that for Shard Lewis would be fed up

This Sharpe stuff is weird to me. He may very well be a good player but let someone else take that chance. I'd take the chance if we fell to like 4th or 5th but 1st seems wild to me. I don't like this shortcut to the pros stuff. I'd rather a guy compete, feels like he is trying to hide something. You get this short cut to success mentality I don't think serves him well.

I'd be fine with Chet. It's just going take awhile for him to reach his potential. I'm tired of waiting. Jabari will be a 20 ppg player in the NBA I am confident to say. Dude will shot the piss out of the ball something we need. Plus he doesn't need the ball with all our guards and Franz. I think if we draft Jabari we at least in the play in games next year and we in the playoffs for sure in two years.

I don’t know much about that whole thing. All I know is the clips of him, he makes it look too easy. I’ve seen clips of elite nba talent in high school and some of them aren’t making it look as easy as he is.

I get the impatience but I’m not quite there yet. I know this team, any team, needs elite talent. I’m willing to wait a little to get that. I want more than just a play in. I’m from the Shaq era. I want us great like that again.

[89Magicfan]

What if Smith becomes KD and OKC gets him #2, just like they did years ago when Portland took Oden #1?

Miss out on that for Porzingas.

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Except he resembles nothing like KD.

His outside shooting does. I've seen OKC fans throwing around the KD comparisons.

Chet doesn't look like AD, he weighs like 60 less pounds than him.

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I’m talking about their games. Chet might be a better ball handler while AD is stronger. The comparison is off a little just generally speaking.

[RookieStar]

Why are we throwing KD comparisons to JS? Weren't people throwing that conparison to Chet first? What changed?

Also, as much as I am impressed by JS, there is no way he is like PG. PG pre-freak injury wAs on the cusp of being one of the face of the leagues superstar. The guy was the very def of superstar wing like KD. He had handles and could dribble all over not to mention his shot. Jabari can't even get through his man and thus settle for the jump shot cuz he has to pick up hia dribble.

ANyway, you can't go wrong with choosing any of the top 3 PFs because they all give you something different. The question we all.must have is which ofnthe 3 has the best chance to be a superstar.

[basketballRob]

Why are we throwing KD comparisons to JS? Weren't people throwing that conparison to Chet first? What changed?

Also, as much as I am impressed by JS, there is no way he is like PG. PG pre-freak injury wAs on the cusp of being one of the face of the leagues superstar. The guy was the very def of superstar wing like KD. He had handles and could dribble all over not to mention his shot. Jabari can't even get through his man and thus settle for the jump shot cuz he has to pick up hia dribble.

ANyway, you can't go wrong with choosing any of the top 3 PFs because they all give you something different. The question we all.must have is which ofnthe 3 has the best chance to be a superstar.

People have been saying all year long that Smith compares to Durant. Just like Franz had dozens of Gordon Hayward comparisons while he was at Michigan.

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[RookieStar]

Why are we throwing KD comparisons to JS? Weren't people throwing that conparison to Chet first? What changed?

Also, as much as I am impressed by JS, there is no way he is like PG. PG pre-freak injury wAs on the cusp of being one of the face of the leagues superstar. The guy was the very def of superstar wing like KD. He had handles and could dribble all over not to mention his shot. Jabari can't even get through his man and thus settle for the jump shot cuz he has to pick up hia dribble.

ANyway, you can't go wrong with choosing any of the top 3 PFs because they all give you something different. The question we all.must have is which ofnthe 3 has the best chance to be a superstar.

People have been saying all year long that Smith compares to Durant. Just like Franz had dozens of Gordon Hayward comparisons while he was at Michigan.

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Ummm well i read that Chet is the KD comparison ( esp the same body type coming in )

[Skin]

I just don’t think you draft that at 1.

If Chet gets enough strength to stay injury free and develops even more, you miss out on a player who changes your franchise.

If Shaedon is the best kept secret...I just view Jabari as a really good role player rn. Yet there’s guys who are more skilled and with added development could be more.

Yeah well you don't draft someone with the thought of what he is without his skill. Like saying I don't like what Steph is w/out his shooting, that's just a role player.

Jabari can also play 2-5 so we could create different looks and mismatches.

That said, I'm still on the fence between Jabari and Chet, but lately been leaning Chet.

Who says Jabari can play 2-5? I'd argue that the majority would say that is 4-5....maybe a little 3, and really not much 5.

He said it himself in a recent interview. Question is why couldn't he, especially with a PG like Fultz. Wait for Fultz to drive-and-kick it out or Pick n Pop all day long. Plus his on ball and perimeter defense is where he stands out.

[j_n]

Jabari doesn't need to run pick n rolls, split double teams or break his man off the dribble in the half court.

He just needs to be able to attack closeouts, add a floater, learn to draw contact, finish around the rim and make the extra pass when the defense collapse.

He's no Kd or Pg, and it's actually hard to think of a similar player to compare, but I definitely see a future all star that can play on both ends of the floor with an outside chance of becoming a superstar down the line.

[JTG_92940618]

This is the big 3 versus ranked opponents*, per 40 minutes:

Player A: 51.0/41.2/84.6 - 23.8 points, 6.8 rebounds, 2.6 assists, 2.1 steals, 0.3 blocks, 1.2 turnovers
Player B: 50.8/25.0/62.5 - 13.5 points, 12.7 rebounds, 1.5 assists, 1.3 steals, 4.0 blocks, 2.9 turnovers
Player C: 40.8/34.4/96.3 - 23.8 points, 10.0 rebounds, 2.0 assists, 1.5 steals, 1.8 blocks, 2.5 turnovers

Ranked top 25 opponents based on this - https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/associated-press

Obviously, the sample size in terms of games is small but who would you pick based on this?

[zaymon]

This is the big 3 versus ranked opponents*, per 40 minutes:

Player A: 51.0/41.2/84.6 - 23.8 points, 6.8 rebounds, 2.6 assists, 2.1 steals, 0.3 blocks, 1.2 turnovers
Player B: 50.8/25.0/62.5 - 13.5 points, 12.7 rebounds, 1.5 assists, 1.3 steals, 4.0 blocks, 2.9 turnovers
Player C: 40.8/34.4/96.3 - 23.8 points, 10.0 rebounds, 2.0 assists, 1.5 steals, 1.8 blocks, 2.5 turnovers

Ranked top 25 opponents based on this - https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/associated-press

Obviously, the sample size in terms of games is small but who would you pick based on this?

Player A at the top is a lock. Then close between B and C would propably take C depending on physical tools. Its hard to judge without context though.
Player A looks like efficient shot creator with good decision making.
Player B is nothing special, but he dosnt hurt his team either.
Player C is inefficient, and propably makes a lot of bad decisions but his stl/blk are good and his ft% is elite depending on volume.

[RookieStar]

This is the big 3 versus ranked opponents*, per 40 minutes:

Player A: 51.0/41.2/84.6 - 23.8 points, 6.8 rebounds, 2.6 assists, 2.1 steals, 0.3 blocks, 1.2 turnovers
Player B: 50.8/25.0/62.5 - 13.5 points, 12.7 rebounds, 1.5 assists, 1.3 steals, 4.0 blocks, 2.9 turnovers
Player C: 40.8/34.4/96.3 - 23.8 points, 10.0 rebounds, 2.0 assists, 1.5 steals, 1.8 blocks, 2.5 turnovers

Ranked top 25 opponents based on this - https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/associated-press

Obviously, the sample size in terms of games is small but who would you pick based on this?

Gotta ask first about the competition aka conference. I mean, to quote Lavar Ball, back in the day i could average that in intramurals lol.

So which of those are against power conferences like ACC , SEC and which are the ivy league and uncle.bobs conferences?

[JTG_92940618]

This is the big 3 versus ranked opponents*, per 40 minutes:

Player A: 51.0/41.2/84.6 - 23.8 points, 6.8 rebounds, 2.6 assists, 2.1 steals, 0.3 blocks, 1.2 turnovers
Player B: 50.8/25.0/62.5 - 13.5 points, 12.7 rebounds, 1.5 assists, 1.3 steals, 4.0 blocks, 2.9 turnovers
Player C: 40.8/34.4/96.3 - 23.8 points, 10.0 rebounds, 2.0 assists, 1.5 steals, 1.8 blocks, 2.5 turnovers

Ranked top 25 opponents based on this - https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/associated-press

Obviously, the sample size in terms of games is small but who would you pick based on this?

Gotta ask first about the competition aka conference. I mean, to quote Lavar Ball, back in the day i could average that in intramurals lol.

So which of those are against power conferences like ACC , SEC and which are the ivy league and uncle.bobs conferences?

Player A = ACC
Player B = WCC
Player C = SEC

[basketballRob]

This is the big 3 versus ranked opponents*, per 40 minutes:

Player A: 51.0/41.2/84.6 - 23.8 points, 6.8 rebounds, 2.6 assists, 2.1 steals, 0.3 blocks, 1.2 turnovers
Player B: 50.8/25.0/62.5 - 13.5 points, 12.7 rebounds, 1.5 assists, 1.3 steals, 4.0 blocks, 2.9 turnovers
Player C: 40.8/34.4/96.3 - 23.8 points, 10.0 rebounds, 2.0 assists, 1.5 steals, 1.8 blocks, 2.5 turnovers

Ranked top 25 opponents based on this - https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/associated-press

Obviously, the sample size in terms of games is small but who would you pick based on this?

Gotta ask first about the competition aka conference. I mean, to quote Lavar Ball, back in the day i could average that in intramurals lol.

So which of those are against power conferences like ACC , SEC and which are the ivy league and uncle.bobs conferences?

Player A = ACC
Player B = WCC
Player C = SEC

He's also using per 40.

This is amazing if true. Jabari made 1.07 points per possession off the dribble which is in the 96th percentile. This is a 6'10 guy, not a little guard. He's probably the best off the dribble big to come along since Durant.

What's even more amazing is he was even better defensively giving up .7 ppp, that's in the 97th percentile.

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[Skybox]

Except he resembles nothing like KD.

His outside shooting does. I've seen OKC fans throwing around the KD comparisons.

Chet doesn't look like AD, he weighs like 60 less pounds than him.

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I’m talking about their games. Chet might be a better ball handler while AD is stronger. The comparison is off a little just generally speaking.

The Chet/AD comparison is actually interesting because the most stunning physical feature of both is their shoulders.

Sorry Chet.

[89Magicfan]

This is the big 3 versus ranked opponents*, per 40 minutes:

Player A: 51.0/41.2/84.6 - 23.8 points, 6.8 rebounds, 2.6 assists, 2.1 steals, 0.3 blocks, 1.2 turnovers
Player B: 50.8/25.0/62.5 - 13.5 points, 12.7 rebounds, 1.5 assists, 1.3 steals, 4.0 blocks, 2.9 turnovers
Player C: 40.8/34.4/96.3 - 23.8 points, 10.0 rebounds, 2.0 assists, 1.5 steals, 1.8 blocks, 2.5 turnovers

Ranked top 25 opponents based on this - https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/associated-press

Obviously, the sample size in terms of games is small but who would you pick based on this?

Think you have to consider the usage rate as well.

[basketballRob]

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