Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Miami Heat

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4 Questions

Poll ended at Wed Jun 1, 2022 3:17 am

Q1: Keep the GM
113
23%
Q1: Fire the GM
5
1%
Q2: Keep the coach
115
23%
Q2: Fire the coach
8
2%
Q3: Performed better than expected
84
17%
Q3: Performed as expected
45
9%
Q3: Performed worse than expected
3
1%
Q4: Rising Team
19
4%
Q4: Treadmill Team
61
12%
Q4: Waning Team
45
9%
 
Total votes: 498

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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Miami Heat 

Post#21 » by TheNewEra » Mon May 30, 2022 3:48 am

RoyceDa59 wrote:That missed Butler 3 might have been his best chance at the finals. Everything was aligned for the Heat this year.

Next year I fully expect a healthy Milwaukee, Nets, Philly & improved Boston to be favoured over Miami in the East.

They likely need to make a move to bring in a legit scorer to compete while Butler is still in his prime.


You mean last chance because he already made it before? Don’t think many people had Boston or Miami beating the Warriors. Celtics now become the more injured team in the series

As for the topic I need the Heat to be ultra aggressive this offseason. Target some stars and move some of the larger contracts
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Miami Heat 

Post#22 » by SinceGatlingWasARookie » Mon May 30, 2022 3:52 am

Olidipo has to be a dominant scorer because otherwise Butler does not have enough offensive help.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Miami Heat 

Post#23 » by Bruin » Mon May 30, 2022 3:52 am

So uhhhh is Haslem gonna finally retire or what?
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Miami Heat 

Post#24 » by Lilseb93 » Mon May 30, 2022 4:04 am

The Heat aren't going to rebuild, but they need a complete makeover. Riley is capable of doing so. Right now, the biggest need is a consistent scorer next to Jimmy. Spo with actual NBA talent can be scary. We can only do so much with undrafted guys who have hit their ceilings.

It was really disappointing they were the #1 3 point team all year, and one of the worst in the playoffs. They are probably in the Finals if they were even average there. Either way, they need to get better in the half court on offense.

Hopefully, they can get out of these horrible contracts. They just didn't have the talent to win the title. This series really had no business even going 7. It's a completely flawed team and none of us actually expected to make the Finals anyways.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Miami Heat 

Post#25 » by Flash4thewin » Mon May 30, 2022 4:08 am

Lilseb93 wrote:The Heat aren't going to rebuild, but they need a complete makeover. Riley is capable of doing so. Right now, the biggest need is a consistent scorer next to Jimmy. Spo with actual NBA talent can be scary. We can only do so much with undrafted guys who have hit their ceilings.

It was really disappointing they were the #1 3 point team all year, and one of the worst in the playoffs. They are probably in the Finals if they were even average there. Either way, they need to get better in the half court on offense.

Hopefully, they can get out of these horrible contracts. They just didn't have the talent to win the title. This series really had no business even going 7. It's a completely flawed team and none of us actually expected to make the Finals anyways.


You do understand Pat is the reason we have those monster contracts right :lol:

Lowry was trash and he is being paid 30 mil a year for the next two years. That is a negative contract.

Duncan cant even get on the court and he has 90 mill left on his contract. Thats a negative contract

Herro is the only asset but he is up for his payday and the market will pay it.

So its going to be an uphill battle just to get out of Lowry and Duncans contract.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Miami Heat 

Post#26 » by sp6r=underrated » Mon May 30, 2022 4:09 am

Ugly Duckling wrote:im not necessarily saying fire spo, but man did he do a bad job in this game


Boston has significantly more talent even when Miami is healthy and the game was still in play deep in the 4th.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Miami Heat 

Post#27 » by El Alonzo scowl » Mon May 30, 2022 4:09 am

Is John Wall alive enough for me to want him over Kyle Lowry's corpse?
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Miami Heat 

Post#28 » by Lilseb93 » Mon May 30, 2022 4:10 am

Flash4thewin wrote:
Lilseb93 wrote:The Heat aren't going to rebuild, but they need a complete makeover. Riley is capable of doing so. Right now, the biggest need is a consistent scorer next to Jimmy. Spo with actual NBA talent can be scary. We can only do so much with undrafted guys who have hit their ceilings.

It was really disappointing they were the #1 3 point team all year, and one of the worst in the playoffs. They are probably in the Finals if they were even average there. Either way, they need to get better in the half court on offense.

Hopefully, they can get out of these horrible contracts. They just didn't have the talent to win the title. This series really had no business even going 7. It's a completely flawed team and none of us actually expected to make the Finals anyways.


You do understand Pat is the reason we have those monster contracts right :lol:

Lowry was trash and he is being paid 30 mil a year for the next two years. That is a negative contract.

Duncan cant even get on the court and he has 90 mill left on his contract. Thats a negative contract

Herro is the only asset but he is up for his payday and the market will pay it.

So its going to be an uphill battle just to get out of Lowry and Duncans contract.


Yes I'm aware. Riley is also capable of pulling trades out of this ass too. We've seen that too.

I'm with you. The future is not bright right now. Treadmill central.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Miami Heat 

Post#29 » by al bondiga » Mon May 30, 2022 4:11 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Worst home crowd I've ever seen in a game 7.

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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Miami Heat 

Post#30 » by HiDef » Mon May 30, 2022 4:13 am

Stats from tonight:

0 from Tucker
15 from Lowry on 33% fg%
4 from Vincent on 25%
9 from Oladipo on 33%
8 from Struss on 30%

6 of 30 (20%) from 3 as a team

Butler 35 on 54%
Bam 25 on 57%
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Miami Heat 

Post#31 » by sp6r=underrated » Mon May 30, 2022 4:14 am

BK_2020 wrote:Is Herro really worse than Oladipo? And Duncan Robinson worse than Strus? They should blow this team up.


Ending up as good as the 2022 Heat is a great outcome for a rebuilding club. If you're at this level there is no need to blow it up
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Miami Heat 

Post#32 » by sp6r=underrated » Mon May 30, 2022 4:15 am

Lilseb93 wrote:
Flash4thewin wrote:
Lilseb93 wrote:The Heat aren't going to rebuild, but they need a complete makeover. Riley is capable of doing so. Right now, the biggest need is a consistent scorer next to Jimmy. Spo with actual NBA talent can be scary. We can only do so much with undrafted guys who have hit their ceilings.

It was really disappointing they were the #1 3 point team all year, and one of the worst in the playoffs. They are probably in the Finals if they were even average there. Either way, they need to get better in the half court on offense.

Hopefully, they can get out of these horrible contracts. They just didn't have the talent to win the title. This series really had no business even going 7. It's a completely flawed team and none of us actually expected to make the Finals anyways.


You do understand Pat is the reason we have those monster contracts right :lol:

Lowry was trash and he is being paid 30 mil a year for the next two years. That is a negative contract.

Duncan cant even get on the court and he has 90 mill left on his contract. Thats a negative contract

Herro is the only asset but he is up for his payday and the market will pay it.

So its going to be an uphill battle just to get out of Lowry and Duncans contract.


Yes I'm aware. Riley is also capable of pulling trades out of this ass too. We've seen that too.

I'm with you. The future is not bright right now. Treadmill central.


Man as a Knicks fan, I'd love to be on the treadmill of making the CF 2 out of the last 3 years
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Miami Heat 

Post#33 » by Lilseb93 » Mon May 30, 2022 4:17 am

sp6r=underrated wrote:
Lilseb93 wrote:
Flash4thewin wrote:
You do understand Pat is the reason we have those monster contracts right :lol:

Lowry was trash and he is being paid 30 mil a year for the next two years. That is a negative contract.

Duncan cant even get on the court and he has 90 mill left on his contract. Thats a negative contract

Herro is the only asset but he is up for his payday and the market will pay it.

So its going to be an uphill battle just to get out of Lowry and Duncans contract.


Yes I'm aware. Riley is also capable of pulling trades out of this ass too. We've seen that too.

I'm with you. The future is not bright right now. Treadmill central.


Man as a Knicks fan, I'd love to be on the treadmill of making the CF 2 out of the last 3 years


Sure, but we're going to be constantly outclassed by more talented teams. I know for other franchises that sounds great, but it gets tiring when you make a run but never really have a realistic shot at a title.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Miami Heat 

Post#34 » by Tor_Raps » Mon May 30, 2022 4:24 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Worst home crowd I've ever seen in a game 7.


I was watching the game and thinking the same thing. It sucks to see such a great franchise be given such a piss poor crowd.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Miami Heat 

Post#35 » by jbk1234 » Mon May 30, 2022 4:29 am

I'd trade Butler before it's too late but I think Riley is too stubborn and too convinced that *Heat culture* is a cure all. This could be the rare instance where the owner stepping in and being cheap might actually be of some benefit.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Miami Heat 

Post#36 » by Tor_Raps » Mon May 30, 2022 4:33 am

Seems like the Heat are going to struggle just bringing back the same roster, let alone get better. Struss/Vincent/Tucker/Herro/Oladipo will all be free agents and be looking for better deals. That Robinson contract is going to screw them hard.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Miami Heat 

Post#37 » by GeorgeSears » Mon May 30, 2022 4:34 am

They'll probably be fine for next season, but they'll need an upgrade at the 3-spot. There's no way Tucker should be playing starter minutes. He's way too offensively limited.
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Miami Heat 

Post#38 » by Hoopstar23 » Mon May 30, 2022 4:39 am

they need to trade Robinson and Herro for a legit second star
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Miami Heat 

Post#39 » by CodeBreaker » Mon May 30, 2022 4:42 am

Get Bradley Beal.

Adebayo is not a 2nd option!
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Re: Post-Mortem: 2021-22 Miami Heat 

Post#40 » by metalinguss » Mon May 30, 2022 4:44 am

Ugly Duckling wrote:im not necessarily saying fire spo, but man did he do a bad job in this game


Still one of the top coaches in the league though. They fire him and he'll get job offers in a snap.

I'd give them all positives except I think they might be waning unless they get another scorer. Beal, Lillard or Mitchell might be it.

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