Roster moves in off-season.

[contract]

Spoiler:

Not likely. Kyrie would have to get vaccinated against the "Disease of Me" first, and we all know how he feels about vaccines.

he's not wrong though, my family is vaxxed and they have suffered bad reactions from constant pain, to rashes and weakened immune system

https://expose-news.com/2022/05/29/gov-confirms-5-months-develop-ai-ds-covid-vaccination/

this is just from the UK govt alone and there's more


https://expose-news.com/2022/05/29/70k-dead-28-days-covid-vaccination-2/

safe and effective, reminds me of the thalidomide fiasco in the 60s i believe


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide_scandal


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cdc-warns-of-covid-rebound-after-taking-paxlovid-says-drug-still-beneficial/ar-AAXTNWl?ocid=BingHp01&cvid=4d7a99bee4fa4529c04020c301f77008

even their meds for covid are making some people sick with...COVID

No need to go into a whole diatribe in here on your personal opinions on the vaccine. Asking for a bunch of off topic derailing responses. It’s Irving choice and he has his right. The discussion is the unlikely hood of Riley bringing him here since the old man does seem to be for it and even still today wears his mask in certain settings.

My bad. I made the joke. I didn't mean to open that can of worms.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Max can blossom into a 3&d guy for Miami. You can't tell me he's worse of a defender than Danny Green at this stage.

Max is rock solid. He’s more of a 20-25 minute guy. We had to over play him this post season but he’s a key contributor on any winning team and someone you find a way to keep around long term if reasonable.

[Slot Machine]

What do we do with Omer Yurtseven? Spo seemed to be so reluctant to play him. Even when Dedmon was showing nothing during the regular season Spo refuses to play him as a backup Center. Maybe he just doesn’t fit Spo’s vision of a defensive Center in his system. Yurt could very well be a trade throw in with Duncan.

He needs to have a significant role in the regular season at the very least. Not sure if his mobility/defense will ever be good enough for serious postseason minutes but we already know he can be productive in the regular season, and he should only improve from here.

I like him as an option in the regular season so the team doesn’t get worn down from playing small/switching defense the entire season. Yurt should be able to provide a good style switch off the bench for certain matchups, if nothing else.

[contract]

Strus looks like a keeper. Great relationship with Butler pretty much guarantees his return. Would like to see him return to his bench role next year with Tyler taking over as the starter barring a trade.

I think Herro starting would be a problem. He's the kind of guy that needs to have the ball in his hands and score a lot to offset his deficiencies. If he's doing that then he's stepping all over Jimmy and Bam ... and if he's not doing that we may as well have DRob out there.

I think Herro works best staggering his minutes with the Jimmy or Bam as much as possible.

[MettaWorldPanda]

What do we do with Omer Yurtseven? Spo seemed to be so reluctant to play him. Even when Dedmon was showing nothing during the regular season Spo refuses to play him as a backup Center. Maybe he just doesn’t fit Spo’s vision of a defensive Center in his system. Yurt could very well be a trade throw in with Duncan.

He needs to have a significant role in the regular season at the very least. Not sure if his mobility/defense will ever be good enough for serious postseason minutes but we already know he can be productive in the regular season, and he should only improve from here.

I like him as an option in the regular season so the team doesn’t get worn down from playing small/switching defense the entire season. Yurt should be able to provide a good style switch off the bench for certain matchups, if nothing else.

And he’s super cheap. The team i’m sure has invested a lot of time developing him so hopefully he’s ready to thrive as Bam’s backup next year. Can’t be any worse then what broke down Dedmon was giving us.

[Heat_Down_Under]

What do we do with Omer Yurtseven? Spo seemed to be so reluctant to play him. Even when Dedmon was showing nothing during the regular season Spo refuses to play him as a backup Center. Maybe he just doesn’t fit Spo’s vision of a defensive Center in his system. Yurt could very well be a trade throw in with Duncan.

He needs to have a significant role in the regular season at the very least. Not sure if his mobility/defense will ever be good enough for serious postseason minutes but we already know he can be productive in the regular season, and he should only improve from here.

I like him as an option in the regular season so the team doesn’t get worn down from playing small/switching defense the entire season. Yurt should be able to provide a good style switch off the bench for certain matchups, if nothing else.

And he’s super cheap. The team i’m sure has invested a lot of time developing him so hopefully he’s ready to thrive as Bam’s backup next year. Can’t be any worse then what broke down Dedmon was giving us.

I was about to mention the cheap contract. I’d give him the back up mins behind bam and move Dedmon..

[wade44]

What do we do with Omer Yurtseven? Spo seemed to be so reluctant to play him. Even when Dedmon was showing nothing during the regular season Spo refuses to play him as a backup Center. Maybe he just doesn’t fit Spo’s vision of a defensive Center in his system. Yurt could very well be a trade throw in with Duncan.

It’s more likely we package him as a sweetener than keep him. While he showed a knack for scoring and rebounding, his defensive positioning and foot movement drove Spo up a wall. Would love to hold onto him for next season on a minimum deal if possible though.

With the contract situations being the way they are on the team, with many deals expiring next summer, i have to think Riley is ready to ship a lot of guys out the door because we simply won’t be able to keep them for the amount of money they will command in free agency. Crazy to think that combined, Duncan and Lowry are going to cost almost 45 million next season

[Heat_Down_Under]

What do we do with Omer Yurtseven? Spo seemed to be so reluctant to play him. Even when Dedmon was showing nothing during the regular season Spo refuses to play him as a backup Center. Maybe he just doesn’t fit Spo’s vision of a defensive Center in his system. Yurt could very well be a trade throw in with Duncan.

It’s more likely we package him as a sweetener than keep him. While he showed a knack for scoring and rebounding, his defensive positioning and foot movement drove Spo up a wall. Would love to hold onto him for next season on a minimum deal if possible though.

With the contract situations being the way they are on the team, with many deals expiring next summer, i have to think Riley is ready to ship a lot of guys out the door because we simply won’t be able to keep them for the amount of money they will command in free agency. Crazy to think that combined, Duncan and Lowry are going to cost almost 45 million next season

Yeah it’s kinda tough.. coz we are still in the butler window hard to keep players that “need to develop”…need established players to have another title run.. but coz yurt is cheap if we can get a solid back up centre behind bam, I’d keep yurt 3rd string for now.. he has shown he can play when the main players get injured..

[MettaWorldPanda]

Strus looks like a keeper. Great relationship with Butler pretty much guarantees his return. Would like to see him return to his bench role next year with Tyler taking over as the starter barring a trade.

I think Herro starting would be a problem. He's the kind of guy that needs to have the ball in his hands and score a lot to offset his deficiencies. If he's doing that then he's stepping all over Jimmy and Bam ... and if he's not doing that we may as well have DRob out there.

I think Herro works best staggering his minutes with the Jimmy or Bam as much as possible.

I think they need to figure it out. Many times Herro could have benefited being with the starters not having all the defensive attention on him. Herro is a rock solid three point shooter and scorer. No reason he can’t blend in with the starters and learn to play off them. If he wants to get paid this is what he needs to prove.

[Bishop45]

Not against Myrie as a hail mary

Not against keeping or trading Tyler either-- lots of good options. I'd like to add some more established talent, cause I don't think we've got a whole lot of time left for Jimmy-- but whatever.

I wouldn't be against Tyler and Lowry for Randle, although that's a lot to gamble.

Lowry is getting another year here at very least if Jimmy is here. He brought him here and they are obviously very close

Herro/Duncan+ one more piece would likely work

Lowry/Dipo/Jimmy/Strus/Bam with Randle on the bench would be decent

But inevitably lack of shooting would come up, unless other pieces are added to the bench

[MettaWorldPanda]

He needs to have a significant role in the regular season at the very least. Not sure if his mobility/defense will ever be good enough for serious postseason minutes but we already know he can be productive in the regular season, and he should only improve from here.

I like him as an option in the regular season so the team doesn’t get worn down from playing small/switching defense the entire season. Yurt should be able to provide a good style switch off the bench for certain matchups, if nothing else.

And he’s super cheap. The team i’m sure has invested a lot of time developing him so hopefully he’s ready to thrive as Bam’s backup next year. Can’t be any worse then what broke down Dedmon was giving us.

I was about to mention the cheap contract. I’d give him the back up mins behind bam and move Dedmon..

Dedmon’s a free agent and is probably done here.

[HEAT_ME_UP]

Lowry looked fat and old, he was not in a “heat” shape form.

[MettaWorldPanda]

PJ Tucker will opt into his 7.5 player option. We wore him down into the ground. Riley and the organization loves him so he’ll be back but needs to be coming off the bench in a 20 min role at this stage of his career. This is why it’s crucial we make a trade play for a legit stretch 4 big.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

All I know is we’re going to be swinging for the fences to add talent to this team. I’m excited for it, going to be a ton of Miami Heat rumors and speculation to discuss this summer and the draft and everything where it usually starts will be here before we know it

[Hallstar]

Strus looks like a keeper. Great relationship with Butler pretty much guarantees his return. Would like to see him return to his bench role next year with Tyler taking over as the starter barring a trade.

I think Herro starting would be a problem. He's the kind of guy that needs to have the ball in his hands and score a lot to offset his deficiencies. If he's doing that then he's stepping all over Jimmy and Bam ... and if he's not doing that we may as well have DRob out there.

I think Herro works best staggering his minutes with the Jimmy or Bam as much as possible.

I don't like this talking point when people are talking about bringing in someone like Bradley Beal for a quarter billion who is less efficient than Herro with the same deficiencies. Are we gonna bring him off the bench too? Herro needs to start period. And it's a year late at this point. We don't have an abundance of offensive riches

[eddieheatfan]

Not likely. Kyrie would have to get vaccinated against the "Disease of Me" first, and we all know how he feels about vaccines.

he's not wrong though, my family is vaxxed and they have suffered bad reactions from constant pain, to rashes and weakened immune system

https://expose-news.com/2022/05/29/gov-confirms-5-months-develop-ai-ds-covid-vaccination/

this is just from the UK govt alone and there's more


https://expose-news.com/2022/05/29/70k-dead-28-days-covid-vaccination-2/

safe and effective, reminds me of the thalidomide fiasco in the 60s i believe


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide_scandal


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cdc-warns-of-covid-rebound-after-taking-paxlovid-says-drug-still-beneficial/ar-AAXTNWl?ocid=BingHp01&cvid=4d7a99bee4fa4529c04020c301f77008

even their meds for covid are making some people sick with...COVID

No need to go into a whole diatribe in here on your personal opinions on the vaccine. Asking for a bunch of off topic derailing responses. It’s Irving choice and he has his right. The discussion is the unlikely hood of Riley bringing him here since the old man does seem to be for it and even still today wears his mask in certain settings.

my family is suffering is that a personal opinion or a fact. there's a difference between the two, i believe. but i do concur that everyone is free to do as their conscience tells them to do.


personally, i'm the only one of my family that chose not to get the vax and am the one who is healthy (thank god) after the fact, unfortunately they arent faring any better.

hell.a nurse who is a friend of a relative got vaxxed too and almost instantly she began having blood pressure issues and before taking the vax she was fine.

but again, people are free to do with their lives and bodies what they want, even if that's for their own detriment and that's not an opinion but a fact.


hope next season the heat fares better, jimmy and us the fans deserves better

[dshearn]

This team was a few inches from a possible trip to the finals, without their second best scorer being able to provide meaningful time on the court. Layer that on top of Butler's knee and this team is close to another shot at the finals.


Whether that means keep tyler herro or trade tyler herro who knows. I think if you add a midseason form of Tyler Herro to that game 7 and Miami probably wins that game.

Having read this thread, I still think the best path forward is to go get Myles Turner or someone like him. He is in that Duncan plus filler trade range .....Turner has stated he wants to attack and make a bigger impact. The exact thing we talk about week in and week out with Bam. \

Turner would push Bam to the 4 and you kill two birds with one stone. Bam can go chase around smalls, and if Strus or Herro or whoever gets blown by...you have someone to meet them at the rim.

Turner is a move I would welcome, it solves the front court issue. But it doesn’t solve the issue of having a second guy to consistently generate offense in the playoffs. Boston has 2, Milwaukee when healthy has 2, Brooklyn as constructed has 2, we’ve got Jimmy and then a bunch of other guys where we dont know what to expect night in and night out.

The rumor was 2 first rounders for Turner, or a promising young player and a pick. So with any luck Duncan and 2 first out.

I suppose people are either under the impression that Tyler is still improving or that someone how broken groin Tyler showed his playoff value this year.

I don't know if 15-20 million in space nets the team anyone better then Tyler on offense.

Have to move Lowery to improve more, and I don't know if that is possible without pissing off Jimmy.

I personally am pretty high on Tyler and think he can be that scoring engine the team needs, but I get the idea of trading him off for a proven player. I just think Tyler plus someone like Turner is a better move the gutting the team for Mitchell.

[dshearn]

Strus looks like a keeper. Great relationship with Butler pretty much guarantees his return. Would like to see him return to his bench role next year with Tyler taking over as the starter barring a trade.

I think Herro starting would be a problem. He's the kind of guy that needs to have the ball in his hands and score a lot to offset his deficiencies. If he's doing that then he's stepping all over Jimmy and Bam ... and if he's not doing that we may as well have DRob out there.

I think Herro works best staggering his minutes with the Jimmy or Bam as much as possible.

I think they need to figure it out. Many times Herro could have benefited being with the starters not having all the defensive attention on him. Herro is a rock solid three point shooter and scorer. No reason he can’t blend in with the starters and learn to play off them. If he wants to get paid this is what he needs to prove.

With any luck they guys are already back in the gym working on next year.

They know what needs to change, let's hope they start fixing it today.

[3ballbomber]

Spoiler:

FYI, Bam won't be completely immune from trade talk.

I suspect Riley will be having internal workshops on how to get Emiid on this roster.

Granted, the idea is a long shot, though.

I think the biggest problem is that Butler is no Wade. Im not talking about on the court but off the court. Wade knew how to make friends, how to get into peoples ears etc. Butler is clearly not that guy, hes not a recruiter. If you dont have someone like that, you can show up wearing all the rings you want and get rejected.

Durant said nah to us twice and went with Golden State, then he went to the Nets. Giannis was like nah man and won a ring last year after sweeping us. We need a Wade level recruiter.

That’s Bam, guys around the league and guys his age love him

Bam loves guys & guys love Bam

[3ballbomber]

Does a trade with rockets work for wood? They would probably want to offload wall aswell tho…

Wall
Dipo
Butler
Wood
Bam

Is a upgrade in my opinion.. not sure what salaries can make it match.. lowry, Herro, duncan, PJ etc

Have we not had enough of injuries & injury prone players plaguing & derailing our season already Then by all means go get Wall, who's hardly played much since 2017 & only played 40 games since signing his supertax in 2019.