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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#601 » by Madhouse » Sat Jun 4, 2022 3:09 pm

DowJones wrote:Cavs fan here. Would a deal of Allen for OG interest the Raptors? I know Toronto needs a 5 and Cleveland could use a wing. Allen is probably a better 5 than OG is a 3/4 but OG plays a more important position. It is a deal that I think could make sense for both teams. I know the organization and the fans in Cleveland absolutely love Allen, and I am sure Toronto loves OG, so it probably wouldn't happen.


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Post#602 » by Madhouse » Sat Jun 4, 2022 3:11 pm

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unfortunutely i think this OG trade talk for 7 is a longshot. I dont see Masai doing it and taking that risk hoping that player becomes better than OG. Not to mention we will be asking more than just 7 if Covington got more than that.

POR also looking at it by just adding Mathurin for free.

These deals are so tough.



It would also be 8 years of control vs 2 years of control.

At a much lower salary.

And allowing you to build the team better.

I understand where you are coming from though. FVV/GTJ are already expiring contract so we might not want more immediate uncertainty.


it's an idea planted by the Blazers, they would obviously like to get OG for Hart + 7th pick.
They have a surplus of SGs but a hole at SF.

i doubt Raps will bite unless Portland throws in more


It's interesting if we love someone at 7 like we loved Giannis and SGA.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#603 » by Red_Claw » Sat Jun 4, 2022 3:17 pm

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DowJones wrote:Cavs fan here. Would a deal of Allen for OG interest the Raptors? I know Toronto needs a 5 and Cleveland could use a wing. Allen is probably a better 5 than OG is a 3/4 but OG plays a more important position. It is a deal that I think could make sense for both teams. I know the organization and the fans in Cleveland absolutely love Allen, and I am sure Toronto loves OG, so it probably wouldn't happen.


Lets do it. 8-)


Nope. No way i want OG defending Scottie or Pascal for seasons and post seasons to come.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#604 » by Madhouse » Sat Jun 4, 2022 3:23 pm

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DowJones wrote:Cavs fan here. Would a deal of Allen for OG interest the Raptors? I know Toronto needs a 5 and Cleveland could use a wing. Allen is probably a better 5 than OG is a 3/4 but OG plays a more important position. It is a deal that I think could make sense for both teams. I know the organization and the fans in Cleveland absolutely love Allen, and I am sure Toronto loves OG, so it probably wouldn't happen.


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Nope. No way i want OG defending Scottie or Pascal for seasons and post seasons to come.


No way I want to face Allen and Mobley for postseasons to come.

Allen is significantly better than OG and younger.

Give me an Allstar over a role player any day.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#605 » by Raptors Realtor » Sat Jun 4, 2022 3:35 pm

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Lets do it. 8-)


Nope. No way i want OG defending Scottie or Pascal for seasons and post seasons to come.


No way I want to face Allen and Mobley for postseasons to come.

Allen is significantly better than OG and younger.

Give me an Allstar over a role player any day.


Fyi they're the same age.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#606 » by Madhouse » Sat Jun 4, 2022 3:37 pm

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Nope. No way i want OG defending Scottie or Pascal for seasons and post seasons to come.


No way I want to face Allen and Mobley for postseasons to come.

Allen is significantly better than OG and younger.

Give me an Allstar over a role player any day.


Fyi they're the same age.

Fyi Allen was born April 21 1998 and OG July 17 1997.
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Post#607 » by Spida888 » Sat Jun 4, 2022 3:39 pm

DowJones wrote:Cavs fan here. Would a deal of Allen for OG interest the Raptors? I know Toronto needs a 5 and Cleveland could use a wing. Allen is probably a better 5 than OG is a 3/4 but OG plays a more important position. It is a deal that I think could make sense for both teams. I know the organization and the fans in Cleveland absolutely love Allen, and I am sure Toronto loves OG, so it probably wouldn't happen.

I would do it personally, but I don't see why Cavs would do it honestly. He's a young all-star locked in for multiple years at 20M per. OG's next contract would be 20M+ and has 2 years left on his current contract.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#608 » by Red_Claw » Sat Jun 4, 2022 3:44 pm

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Lets do it. 8-)


Nope. No way i want OG defending Scottie or Pascal for seasons and post seasons to come.


No way I want to face Allen and Mobley for postseasons to come.

Allen is significantly better than OG and younger.

Give me an Allstar over a role player any day.


Thats a significant stretch. Allen is a very good big but OG can be an elite defender for every position and has averaged 38% from 3 over past 3 seasons. With 3 pointers being nearly a primary way of scoring now a days, a big like Allen is less effective than a mobile 6'9 player who can defend at the 3 point line then beat his man to the long rebound.

Masai is building a team of mobile bigs who can shoot 3s, defend and play make. The only way that truly works is if you don't have any weak links. Allen isin't "weak" by any means, but he doesn't fit the profile like OG does so zero reasons to get rid of him. Now if you want to put a trade together of Fred and Trent jr for Allen, that im all for.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#609 » by Raptors Realtor » Sat Jun 4, 2022 3:45 pm

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No way I want to face Allen and Mobley for postseasons to come.

Allen is significantly better than OG and younger.

Give me an Allstar over a role player any day.


Fyi they're the same age.

Fyi Allen was born April 21 1998 and OG July 17 1997.


We're splitting hairs on a 9 months age difference.
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Post#610 » by Clutch0z24 » Sat Jun 4, 2022 3:56 pm

Does anyone here actually want to trade OG for potentially Dyson Daniels or Ben Mathurin? I feel alot say no but i wanna do it...
Only reason is we have Barnes now which changes so much for us....Imagine having a 6"7 PG in Daniels who actually passes the ball really good at PG instead of FVV....It would be so refreshing to watch...
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#611 » by Madhouse » Sat Jun 4, 2022 4:06 pm

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Nope. No way i want OG defending Scottie or Pascal for seasons and post seasons to come.


No way I want to face Allen and Mobley for postseasons to come.

Allen is significantly better than OG and younger.

Give me an Allstar over a role player any day.


Thats a significant stretch. Allen is a very good big but OG can be an elite defender for every position and has averaged 38% from 3 over past 3 seasons. With 3 pointers being nearly a primary way of scoring now a days, a big like Allen is less effective than a mobile 6'9 player who can defend at the 3 point line then beat his man to the long rebound.

Masai is building a team of mobile bigs who can shoot 3s, defend and play make. The only way that truly works is if you don't have any weak links. Allen isin't "weak" by any means, but he doesn't fit the profile like OG does so zero reasons to get rid of him. Now if you want to put a trade together of Fred and Trent jr for Allen, that im all for.




Allen for long stretches, until he got injured, was the best players on the Cavs and had the most impact on winning. He made Mobley look like the greatest rookie defender since humans were created until he got exposed and could not play just help defender anymore. Ultimately you care about winning impact. And does OG impact winning the same way Allen does? No. If I can get an Allstar who plays the a position where we need answers (we suck at defensive rebounding for example) and is an elite defender I do that.
Then you consider that Toronto only has 2 more years of control about OG as opposed to several more years for Allen, OG missing more games than Allen and Toronto being able to balance out its roster (legit question marks about a OG/Barnes/Siakam longterm fit) and this is a nobrainer to me if offered straight up.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#612 » by kj_ » Sat Jun 4, 2022 4:49 pm

I wouldn’t call it a no brainer, but I would seriously entertain moving OG for Allen. You lose 3 point shooting and an elite on ball defender (Barnes is not an OG replacement here) but gain rim protection and rebounding.

I’d strongly consider this.


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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#613 » by Tha Cynic » Sat Jun 4, 2022 4:59 pm

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DowJones wrote:Cavs fan here. Would a deal of Allen for OG interest the Raptors? I know Toronto needs a 5 and Cleveland could use a wing. Allen is probably a better 5 than OG is a 3/4 but OG plays a more important position. It is a deal that I think could make sense for both teams. I know the organization and the fans in Cleveland absolutely love Allen, and I am sure Toronto loves OG, so it probably wouldn't happen.


Lets do it. 8-)


Nope. No way i want OG defending Scottie or Pascal for seasons and post seasons to come.


Allen would be a perfect fit here, especially since the Raptors have multiple guys who can play OG's role. Agreed that OG is probably a top 3-5 one one defender in the league, but Allen does the same from a position of need for the Raptors. This would be a great trade for both teams.
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Post#614 » by mtcan » Sat Jun 4, 2022 5:04 pm

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Lets do it. 8-)


Nope. No way i want OG defending Scottie or Pascal for seasons and post seasons to come.


Allen would be a perfect fit here, especially since the Raptors have multiple guys who can play OG's role. Agreed that OG is probably a top 3-5 one one defender in the league, but Allen does the same from a position of need for the Raptors. This would be a great trade for both teams.

I dunno about top 3-5 defender...but he is really good.

He hasn't seen too much NBA all-defence attention or DPOY coverage...so the perception around the league isn't what Raptora fans believe.
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Post#615 » by LoveMyRaps » Sat Jun 4, 2022 5:07 pm

kj_ wrote:I wouldn’t call it a no brainer, but I would seriously entertain moving OG for Allen. You lose 3 point shooting and an elite on ball defender (Barnes is not an OG replacement here) but gain rim protection and rebounding.

I’d strongly consider this.


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Allen is an untouchable for the Cavs. I don’t know why I see so many suggesting this OG for Allen trade.
I’d do it in a heartbeat but Cavs wouldn’t.
The dynamic front court duo of Mobley and Allen is what’s gonna make the Cavs a scary team for years to come. Pair that with a budding bonafide backcourt star in Garland and Cavs look like they have one of the best young cores in the league.
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Post#616 » by LoveMyRaps » Sat Jun 4, 2022 5:09 pm

Clutch0z24 wrote:Does anyone here actually want to trade OG for potentially Dyson Daniels or Ben Mathurin? I feel alot say no but i wanna do it...
Only reason is we have Barnes now which changes so much for us....Imagine having a 6"7 PG in Daniels who actually passes the ball really good at PG instead of FVV....It would be so refreshing to watch...


I’d do OG for Mathurin. Not DD tho.
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Post#617 » by mademan » Sat Jun 4, 2022 5:17 pm

Cavs wouldnt do it, but its laughable there are Raps fans who wouldnt move OG for Allen. Allen is a legit DPOY type player who turned around the Cavs in his first season there. And he's locked up longer than OG on a killer bargain contract
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Post#618 » by kj_ » Sat Jun 4, 2022 5:45 pm

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kj_ wrote:I wouldn’t call it a no brainer, but I would seriously entertain moving OG for Allen. You lose 3 point shooting and an elite on ball defender (Barnes is not an OG replacement here) but gain rim protection and rebounding.

I’d strongly consider this.


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Allen is an untouchable for the Cavs. I don’t know why I see so many suggesting this OG for Allen trade.
I’d do it in a heartbeat but Cavs wouldn’t.
The dynamic front court duo of Mobley and Allen is what’s gonna make the Cavs a scary team for years to come. Pair that with a budding bonafide backcourt star in Garland and Cavs look like they have one of the best young cores in the league.

Because a Cavs fan came in and asked. That’s why.


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Post#619 » by Ell Curry » Sat Jun 4, 2022 7:19 pm

I think the Cavs would pass because their D looked awful with Mobley at the 5, which I admit I didn't see coming. Crazy they gave up a first for Levert, though. They need some real wing players. Really do have to pick correctly at #14. Could see them trading down though to get a couple wings, like to 20 and 25 from San Antonio and grabbing a high floor guy like Wendell Moore and a high ceiling wing like Kendall Brown.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#620 » by Spida888 » Sat Jun 4, 2022 7:41 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:
Clutch0z24 wrote:Does anyone here actually want to trade OG for potentially Dyson Daniels or Ben Mathurin? I feel alot say no but i wanna do it...
Only reason is we have Barnes now which changes so much for us....Imagine having a 6"7 PG in Daniels who actually passes the ball really good at PG instead of FVV....It would be so refreshing to watch...


I’d do OG for Mathurin. Not DD tho.

I would not do it for OG and #7 straight up (they can absorb OG's contract in their TPE I believe).

However, I'll do something along the lines of Josh Hart (expiring) + #7 + Keon Johnson + 2025 Bucks FRP. The Bucks pick is a little weird, think it only conveys if 5-14, but POR cannot trades their FRPs for a while (owed to CHI).

I would also do it for Sharpe, more so than the other two. He's a mystery box but his shooting and athleticism is intriguing.

If DET is willing to just exchange #7 for Grant, I could see POR doing that less costly deal instead.

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