FUTURE DRAFT GAMES - NEW THREAD 2/21/22

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Post#221 » by Dr Positivity » Thu Jun 2, 2022 12:04 am

Laimbeer wrote:How about drafting franchises - by decade? For example, you could select the 2000-2009 Lakers and use any player seasons in that decade. A player stays in the team/decade he achieved his peak win shares. The decade selections could be restricted to maybe one MVP in each decade you select? Maybe four rounds?


I'd try it though I imagine someone is getting filthy stacked
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Post#222 » by durantbird » Mon Jun 6, 2022 7:25 am

Unfrequent All Stars.

Only players with 2 All Star selections or less are eligible.
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Post#223 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon Jun 6, 2022 11:36 am

Lone Star Draft: you can only draft one player who made multiple All-NBA teams
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Post#224 » by Larry_Russell » Mon Jun 6, 2022 12:05 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:How about drafting franchises - by decade? For example, you could select the 2000-2009 Lakers and use any player seasons in that decade. A player stays in the team/decade he achieved his peak win shares. The decade selections could be restricted to maybe one MVP in each decade you select? Maybe four rounds?


I'd try it though I imagine someone is getting filthy stacked



Maybe not though.

Been some seriously dominate decades for franchises out there, some with multiple dominate decades available.

Bulls
Lakers
Celtics
Spurs
GSW
Heat

Can easily make 8 competetive teams out of a decade or 2 from each of those teams. And that isnt counting
Houston
Phoenix
etc
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Post#225 » by euroleague » Mon Jun 6, 2022 1:29 pm

Speed draft
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Post#226 » by Laimbeer » Mon Jun 6, 2022 1:29 pm

durantbird wrote:Unfrequent All Stars.

Only players with 2 All Star selections or less are eligible.


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Post#227 » by Colbinii » Mon Jun 6, 2022 1:33 pm

euroleague wrote:Speed draft


As in we need a certain FGA by certain picks?
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Post#228 » by Larry_Russell » Mon Jun 6, 2022 2:09 pm

Laimbeer wrote:How about drafting franchises - by decade? For example, you could select the 2000-2009 Lakers and use any player seasons in that decade. A player stays in the team/decade he achieved his peak win shares. The decade selections could be restricted to maybe one MVP in each decade you select? Maybe four rounds?



You should run this one. I really want to do it.

Screw the MVP restrictions, I think FGA is a restriction enough.

8-12 teams max

I think the decades that posters will want are
90s Bulls
10s Warriors
80s Lakers
80s Celtics
00s lakers
10s heat
00s Spurs
90s Phoenix Suns
90s Rockets
90s Jazz
90s Sonics
90s Trailblazers
00s Pistons
70s Knicks
80s philly

Lots of teams/eras

I say though, to make it more interesting,
you can pick a player from any era/team in their career. so you can pick 90s suns but chose a Philly season for Barkley

Randomize 1 round and everyone drafts their team/decade

Then re-randomize the draft order for round 2. Round 2 is when you chose your players.

****, I will run it if people want to play it (and if someone makes the nice Google spreadsheet that always gets linked)
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Post#229 » by euroleague » Mon Jun 6, 2022 3:05 pm

Colbinii wrote:
euroleague wrote:Speed draft


As in we need a certain FGA by certain picks?


No, like you have 30 seconds to make a pick. No FGA restrictions, maybe some year/MVP restrictions
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Post#230 » by Colbinii » Mon Jun 6, 2022 3:07 pm

euroleague wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
euroleague wrote:Speed draft


As in we need a certain FGA by certain picks?


No, like you have 30 seconds to make a pick. No FGA restrictions, maybe some year/MVP restrictions


This makes sense but would work best on Discord since that's instant.
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Post#231 » by euroleague » Mon Jun 6, 2022 3:15 pm

Colbinii wrote:
euroleague wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
As in we need a certain FGA by certain picks?


No, like you have 30 seconds to make a pick. No FGA restrictions, maybe some year/MVP restrictions


This makes sense but would work best on Discord since that's instant.


Last time, we used an Excel page and color coding. Colors changed depending on who was up. Was super difficult to host and pick at the same time, so I'd rather not host unless there's a better method
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Post#232 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon Jun 6, 2022 3:44 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:How about drafting franchises - by decade? For example, you could select the 2000-2009 Lakers and use any player seasons in that decade. A player stays in the team/decade he achieved his peak win shares. The decade selections could be restricted to maybe one MVP in each decade you select? Maybe four rounds?



You should run this one. I really want to do it.

Screw the MVP restrictions, I think FGA is a restriction enough.

8-12 teams max

I think the decades that posters will want are
90s Bulls
10s Warriors
80s Lakers
80s Celtics
00s lakers
10s heat
00s Spurs
90s Phoenix Suns
90s Rockets
90s Jazz
90s Sonics
90s Trailblazers
00s Pistons
70s Knicks
80s philly

Lots of teams/eras

I say though, to make it more interesting,
you can pick a player from any era/team in their career. so you can pick 90s suns but chose a Philly season for Barkley

Randomize 1 round and everyone drafts their team/decade

Then re-randomize the draft order for round 2. Round 2 is when you chose your players.

****, I will run it if people want to play it (and if someone makes the nice Google spreadsheet that always gets linked)

I think it still needs a fair amount of tweaking.

First of all, those decades aren't very balanced in terms of talent. Under no circumstances are the 90s Sonics or Blazers beating Shaq-Kobe-Pau or the KD Warriors.

Second, there's very little suspense with everyone basically having their own discrete player pool set in stone from the jump. It will be clear almost immediately what the teams are going to look like and who will be the favourites.
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Post#233 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon Jun 6, 2022 3:48 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:Lone Star Draft: you can only draft one player who made multiple All-NBA teams

Thinking about this, it's probably too biased towards the top picks.

Another idea along similar lines: the One-Two Punch Draft. You can only draft two players who ever made an All-NBA Team.
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Post#234 » by durantbird » Mon Jun 6, 2022 4:13 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
durantbird wrote:Unfrequent All Stars.

Only players with 2 All Star selections or less are eligible.


I like this.

We should exclude MVPs, otherwise Walton will be a cheat code.
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Post#235 » by flaco » Mon Jun 6, 2022 6:21 pm

International pairs draft. We gotta select 4 pairs for a total of 8 players. Each pair has to be from the same country. We cannot select more than 1 pair from the USA. For the purposes of the game, each player's nationality is determined exclusively by his wikipedia page (like we did in the international draft). As always, we can select only one MVP per pair. For players with multiple nationalities, we may opt for whichever of their nationalities we want.
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Post#236 » by durantbird » Mon Jun 6, 2022 7:24 pm

flaco wrote:International pairs draft. We gotta select 4 pairs for a total of 8 players. Each pair has to be from the same country. We cannot select more than 1 pair from the USA. For the purposes of the game, each player's nationality is determined exclusively by his wikipedia page (like we did in the international draft). As always, we can select only one MVP per pair. For players with multiple nationalities, we may opt for whichever of their nationalities we want.

I think unless we remove US entirely this is going to be too unbalanced. There are some clear top tier duos to be matched and then you add an elite US duo to complete your leading 4.

Maybe should also consider one All Star per pair.
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Post#237 » by Dr Positivity » Mon Jun 6, 2022 7:38 pm

Losing conference draft - only seasons from the conference that didn't win the title eligible (would have to take place after 2022 finals). Might mix up the seasons available a bit.
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Post#238 » by Larry_Russell » Mon Jun 6, 2022 7:59 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:How about drafting franchises - by decade? For example, you could select the 2000-2009 Lakers and use any player seasons in that decade. A player stays in the team/decade he achieved his peak win shares. The decade selections could be restricted to maybe one MVP in each decade you select? Maybe four rounds?



You should run this one. I really want to do it.

Screw the MVP restrictions, I think FGA is a restriction enough.

8-12 teams max

I think the decades that posters will want are
90s Bulls
10s Warriors
80s Lakers
80s Celtics
00s lakers
10s heat
00s Spurs
90s Phoenix Suns
90s Rockets
90s Jazz
90s Sonics
90s Trailblazers
00s Pistons
70s Knicks
80s philly

Lots of teams/eras

I say though, to make it more interesting,
you can pick a player from any era/team in their career. so you can pick 90s suns but chose a Philly season for Barkley

Randomize 1 round and everyone drafts their team/decade

Then re-randomize the draft order for round 2. Round 2 is when you chose your players.

****, I will run it if people want to play it (and if someone makes the nice Google spreadsheet that always gets linked)

I think it still needs a fair amount of tweaking.

First of all, those decades aren't very balanced in terms of talent. Under no circumstances are the 90s Sonics or Blazers beating Shaq-Kobe-Pau or the KD Warriors.

Second, there's very little suspense with everyone basically having their own discrete player pool set in stone from the jump. It will be clear almost immediately what the teams are going to look like and who will be the favourites.



Well, perhaps keep it likited to a single MVP.

Then you could have kobe or shaq
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Post#239 » by flaco » Mon Jun 6, 2022 8:02 pm

durantbird wrote:
flaco wrote:International pairs draft. We gotta select 4 pairs for a total of 8 players. Each pair has to be from the same country. We cannot select more than 1 pair from the USA. For the purposes of the game, each player's nationality is determined exclusively by his wikipedia page (like we did in the international draft). As always, we can select only one MVP per pair. For players with multiple nationalities, we may opt for whichever of their nationalities we want.

I think unless we remove US entirely this is going to be too unbalanced. There are some clear top tier duos to be matched and then you add an elite US duo to complete your leading 4.

Maybe should also consider one All Star per pair.

Don't see why it would be more unbalanced than any other draft tbh. The majority of the elite international players would lose part of their value cause they'd have to be paired with a mediocre international player. For instance, Hakeem is arguably the best international player of all time. Will he be a surefire top pick if we have to pair him with a guy like Al-Farouq Aminu or Monté Morris? Or would you rather have Embiid and Siakam over them?

Another thing is, the international pool is very deep at the Center/PF positions. The only american Center/PF drafted in the previous international draft was Kareem. Chances are, most of the all-time american Bigs will remain undrafted. If so, the truly elite options from the US pool aren't as many as you may think.
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Post#240 » by Laimbeer » Mon Jun 6, 2022 8:29 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:

You should run this one. I really want to do it.

Screw the MVP restrictions, I think FGA is a restriction enough.

8-12 teams max

I think the decades that posters will want are
90s Bulls
10s Warriors
80s Lakers
80s Celtics
00s lakers
10s heat
00s Spurs
90s Phoenix Suns
90s Rockets
90s Jazz
90s Sonics
90s Trailblazers
00s Pistons
70s Knicks
80s philly

Lots of teams/eras

I say though, to make it more interesting,
you can pick a player from any era/team in their career. so you can pick 90s suns but chose a Philly season for Barkley

Randomize 1 round and everyone drafts their team/decade

Then re-randomize the draft order for round 2. Round 2 is when you chose your players.

****, I will run it if people want to play it (and if someone makes the nice Google spreadsheet that always gets linked)

I think it still needs a fair amount of tweaking.

First of all, those decades aren't very balanced in terms of talent. Under no circumstances are the 90s Sonics or Blazers beating Shaq-Kobe-Pau or the KD Warriors.

Second, there's very little suspense with everyone basically having their own discrete player pool set in stone from the jump. It will be clear almost immediately what the teams are going to look like and who will be the favourites.



Well, perhaps keep it likited to a single MVP.

Then you could have kobe or shaq
Also do not understand why we would randomize again after each round. That could get really lopsided.


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