Tatum VS Luka

Sane · Post #1361 » by **Sane** » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:51 am

Nothing's a done deal, I would rather have Luka than Tatum in the Finals but it's close enough (and none of them have titles) that any of them could finish ahead of the other in their respective careers.

DroseReturnChi · Post #1362 » by **DroseReturnChi** » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:55 am

CobraCommander wrote:...you guys under estimate how crazy it is that Tatum is nearly Giannis size and can do things that a guard does.....

tatum does nothing a guard does the only thing a guard does is chucking 20 shots like kobe. amazing how he is making me dislike kobe with his weird poor fake imitation just like you see all the steph stans chucking up 3s. if he could do what giannis does plus the shooting i will dump luka following but you know thats not happening. tatums problem is his game is not methodical like j brown and runs on instinct. thats where the bloated turnover arises and has an insane turnover rate.

mpoo_sin · Post #1363 » by **mpoo_sin** » Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:15 am

Let us enjoy pure greatness and some nice plays!

Watch on YouTube

Post #1364 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:29 am

A young guy being not as good as Luka is not really a fair criticism.

mpoo_sin · Post #1365 » by **mpoo_sin** » Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:41 am

Man,
talking about stats not telling everything.
Tatums line looks decent on paper. Yet he had very little impact on the game today.
He had 4 airballs, maybe 5 and was overmatched against Wiggins.

That is probably another aspect where he is not as good as Doncic. He is no impact player.

Raps in 4 · Post #1366 » by **Raps in 4** » Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:43 am

Replace Tatum with Luka and the Celtics easily sweep.

zonedefense · Post #1367 » by **zonedefense** » Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:48 am

mpoo_sin wrote:Man,
talking about stats not telling everything.
Tatums line looks decent on paper. Yet he had very little impact on the game today.
He had 4 airballs, maybe 5 and was overmatched against Wiggins.

That is probably another aspect where he is not as good as Doncic. He is no impact player.

There is no doubt that Tatum is an impact player. And airballs are a Luka special.
Problem with Tatum is that he is streaky. He went from cannot miss in the first three quarters to cannot throw it into the ocean in the fourth. And compared to Luka he doesn´t have the bully ball inside game to compensate for a bad shooting night. On paper Tatum´s length and athleticism should lead to a high volume of shots at the rim but he is settling for long 2s.

Balls Deep · Post #1368 » by **Balls Deep** » Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:54 am

They’re not even near each other. Luka is miles better. Tatum is soft and his IQ is absolute dog sh*t.

dautjazz · Post #1369 » by **dautjazz** » Tue Jun 14, 2022 3:58 am

This is a ridiculous thread, Doncic by a country mile.

SelfishPlayer · Post #1370 » by **SelfishPlayer** » Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:28 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:Replace Tatum with Luka and the Celtics easily sweep.

While Jaylen Brown and Marcus Smart are forced to be spot up shooters?

3toheadmelo · Post #1371 » by **3toheadmelo** » Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:35 pm

Game 5 Comparisons against GSW

Luka: 28 points 9 rebounds 6 assists (35% FG 23% from 3)
Tatum: 27 points 10 rebounds 4 assists ( 50% FG 55% from 3)

rapstarter · Post #1372 » by **rapstarter** » Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:39 pm

SelfishPlayer wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:Replace Tatum with Luka and the Celtics easily sweep.

While Jaylen Brown and Marcus Smart are forced to be spot up shooters?

Is Brunson a spot up shooter? Is Dinwidde? A lot of the Mavs players aren't "forced" to be spot up shooters. They were brought in BECAUSE they were 3 and D players.

Archx · Post #1373 » by **Archx** » Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:49 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Game 5 Comparisons against GSW

Luka: 28 points 9 rebounds 6 assists (35% FG 23% from 3)
Tatum: 27 points 10 rebounds 4 assists ( 50% FG 55% from 3)

You win this one.

His own fat ass had to drag dead legs up and down the floor missing easy shots and layups. He came alive in the 3rd but it was too late. And this is where Tatum is comfortably ahead. Better off season preparation and conditioning. Can't defend Luka there because it happened exactly the same in the Olympics vs Australia after a long tournament in their very last game.

3toheadmelo · Post #1374 » by **3toheadmelo** » Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:53 pm

Archx wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Game 5 Comparisons against GSW

Luka: 28 points 9 rebounds 6 assists (35% FG 23% from 3)
Tatum: 27 points 10 rebounds 4 assists ( 50% FG 55% from 3)

You win this one. His own fat ass had to drag dead legs up and down the floor missing easy shots and layups. He came alive in the 3rd but it was too late. And this is where Tatum is comfortably ahead. Better off season preparation and conditioning. Can't defend Luka there because it happened exactly the same in the Olympics vs Australia after a long tournament in their very last game.

If Luka gets his conditioning and defense to a next level, he will be nearly unstoppable

KGtabake · Post #1375 » by **KGtabake** » Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:26 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Archx wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Game 5 Comparisons against GSW

Luka: 28 points 9 rebounds 6 assists (35% FG 23% from 3)
Tatum: 27 points 10 rebounds 4 assists ( 50% FG 55% from 3)

You win this one. His own fat ass had to drag dead legs up and down the floor missing easy shots and layups. He came alive in the 3rd but it was too late. And this is where Tatum is comfortably ahead. Better off season preparation and conditioning. Can't defend Luka there because it happened exactly the same in the Olympics vs Australia after a long tournament in their very last game.

If Luka gets his conditioning and defense to a next level, he will be nearly unstoppable

Conditioning will be easy. As he grows up, he will take care of his body.
The defense won't happen. Above all, defense is a combination of instincts and willingness.
Luka doesn't have any of the two. Instincts in particular is not something that can be taught. Either you have it either you don't.

Post #1376 » by **Mavrelous** » Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:27 pm

KGtabake wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Archx wrote:
You win this one. His own fat ass had to drag dead legs up and down the floor missing easy shots and layups. He came alive in the 3rd but it was too late. And this is where Tatum is comfortably ahead. Better off season preparation and conditioning. Can't defend Luka there because it happened exactly the same in the Olympics vs Australia after a long tournament in their very last game.

If Luka gets his conditioning and defense to a next level, he will be nearly unstoppable

Conditioning will be easy. As he grows up, he will take care of his body.
The defense won't happen. Above all, defense is a combination of instincts and willingness.
Luka doesn't have any of the two. Instincts in particular is not something that can be taught. Either you have it either you don't.

Luka has great defensive instincts, he's just slow on the perimeter.

SelfishPlayer · Post #1377 » by **SelfishPlayer** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 12:13 am

rapstarter wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:Replace Tatum with Luka and the Celtics easily sweep.

While Jaylen Brown and Marcus Smart are forced to be spot up shooters?

Is Brunson a spot up shooter? Is Dinwidde? A lot of the Mavs players aren't "forced" to be spot up shooters. They were brought in BECAUSE they were 3 and D players.

Dinwiddie is forced to come off the bench.

KGtabake · Post #1378 » by **KGtabake** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 11:10 am

KhalilS wrote:
KGtabake wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:If Luka gets his conditioning and defense to a next level, he will be nearly unstoppable

Conditioning will be easy. As he grows up, he will take care of his body.
The defense won't happen. Above all, defense is a combination of instincts and willingness.
Luka doesn't have any of the two. Instincts in particular is not something that can be taught. Either you have it either you don't.

Luka has great defensive instincts, he's just slow on the perimeter.

No he doesn't. He can't avoid a screen to save his life because he never anticipates the movement behind him(instincts). And he lets go even if he beats the screen. A guy with his size should have been able to at least challenge the guard's layup from behind. It's always a free layup because he stops hunting(willingness).
I'm openly disappointed with his D but his offense keeps getting better to a point that he's easily top3 right now. Soon to be at the top. He's better than Jayson that's for sure.

Wagonband · Post #1379 » by **Wagonband** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 11:31 am

SelfishPlayer wrote:
rapstarter wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:
While Jaylen Brown and Marcus Smart are forced to be spot up shooters?

Is Brunson a spot up shooter? Is Dinwidde? A lot of the Mavs players aren't "forced" to be spot up shooters. They were brought in BECAUSE they were 3 and D players.

Dinwiddie is forced to come off the bench.

Your point being he deserves to be a starter? Would he start on the Celtics?

SelfishPlayer · Post #1380 » by **SelfishPlayer** » Wed Jun 15, 2022 11:34 am

Wagonband wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:
rapstarter wrote:
Is Brunson a spot up shooter? Is Dinwidde? A lot of the Mavs players aren't "forced" to be spot up shooters. They were brought in BECAUSE they were 3 and D players.

Dinwiddie is forced to come off the bench.

Your point being he deserves to be a starter? Would he start on the Celtics?

He started during the playoff victories without Luka?

Who's the better player overall?