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Licensed to Il · Post #221 » by **Licensed to Il** » Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:02 pm

Eric Gordon looks fat, but is not a fat person. Is there a name for this? Seriously, he is a NBA athlete, can dunk, can sink threes, and if you squint looks 85% like Carl Winslow.

MVP2110 · Post #222 » by **MVP2110** » Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:14 pm

I know Eric Gordon is a good shooter. Is he good enough on defense to play in the playoffs? Anyone we use assets on needs to be good enough defensively to not get played off the floor

Licensed to Il · Post #223 » by **Licensed to Il** » Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:20 pm

It was sarcasm by Supreme because Houston said they were looking for a first round pick for Gordon, and he is cooked and its a laughable suggestion. Its not a real thing. He is a 3 and D guard without the D.

machu46 · Post #224 » by **machu46** » Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:44 pm

MVP2110 wrote:I know Eric Gordon is a good shooter. Is he good enough on defense to play in the playoffs? Anyone we use assets on needs to be good enough defensively to not get played off the floor

No better than Grayson

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slappyg · Post #225 » by **slappyg** » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:06 pm

Licensed to Il wrote:Eric Gordon looks fat, but is not a fat person. Is there a name for this? Seriously, he is a NBA athlete, can dunk, can sink threes, and if you squint looks 85% like Carl Winslow.

Thick? Soft?

Matches Malone · Post #226 » by **Matches Malone** » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:25 pm

Licensed to Il wrote:Eric Gordon looks fat, but is not a fat person. Is there a name for this?

The Jabari Parker special.

MikeIsGood · Post #227 » by **MikeIsGood** » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:59 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:Since Horst says we’re trading the pick, been thinking about what is realistic, yet at the same time favors us on the ledger.

Going with Josh Hart for Grayson/Hill/#24

He’d be the missing backcourt Swiss Army knife piece for us. The downside is the guy is injury prone. And while the stats this past year are good, they reflect a green light on a losing Blazers team. But the guy appears to be able to do a little bit of everything. Our version of acquiring Derrick White.

This would make me inexplicably happy, as a big Josh Hart fan, but I think Blazers are neither tearing it down, nor trading Hart as-is.

Badgerlander · Post #228 » by **Badgerlander** » Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:20 pm

machu46 wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:I know Eric Gordon is a good shooter. Is he good enough on defense to play in the playoffs? Anyone we use assets on needs to be good enough defensively to not get played off the floor

No better than Grayson

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So picture 34 year old Grayson, defensively.

raferfenix · Post #229 » by **raferfenix** » Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:45 pm

It’s tough to make a Gordon scenario work assuming we are not sending out Lopez.

Allen, Hill, Tucker and Vildoza would work (+ #24 for incentive) if we want to do a 4 for 1 deal.

Not sure if Gordon is good enough to justify dropping the pick though. Ownership would have to clear the extra spending too.

Badgerlander · Post #230 » by **Badgerlander** » Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:49 pm

I’d rather have the pick than Gordon

machu46 · Post #231 » by **machu46** » Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:14 pm

Badgerlander wrote:I’d rather have the pick than Gordon

I’d rather have each of those players and the pick individually than Gordon.

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German Athens · Post #232 » by **German Athens** » Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:31 pm

When people are saying we’re trading the pick, is that just coming from the Horst statement that we want to maximize the asset? Or was there something else where it was explicit?

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Ron Swanson · Post #233 » by **Ron Swanson** » Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:38 pm

Lol, Rockets aren't getting a 1st for Gordon.

ShootingtheJ · Post #234 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:03 pm

MikeIsGood wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:Since Horst says we’re trading the pick, been thinking about what is realistic, yet at the same time favors us on the ledger.

Going with Josh Hart for Grayson/Hill/#24

He’d be the missing backcourt Swiss Army knife piece for us. The downside is the guy is injury prone. And while the stats this past year are good, they reflect a green light on a losing Blazers team. But the guy appears to be able to do a little bit of everything. Our version of acquiring Derrick White.

This would make me inexplicably happy, as a big Josh Hart fan, but I think Blazers are neither tearing it down, nor trading Hart as-is.

Orlando gets: Allen, Hill, #24
Portland gets: Jonathon Isaac
Bucks get: Hart

BigO · Post #235 » by **BigO** » Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:57 pm

MikeIsGood wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:Since Horst says we’re trading the pick, been thinking about what is realistic, yet at the same time favors us on the ledger.

Going with Josh Hart for Grayson/Hill/#24

He’d be the missing backcourt Swiss Army knife piece for us. The downside is the guy is injury prone. And while the stats this past year are good, they reflect a green light on a losing Blazers team. But the guy appears to be able to do a little bit of everything. Our version of acquiring Derrick White.

This would make me inexplicably happy, as a big Josh Hart fan, but I think Blazers are neither tearing it down, nor trading Hart as-is.

I assume Hart is a great switchable defender (I don't know), because he can't shoot (under 35% three point shooter).

jschligs · Post #236 » by **jschligs** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 12:06 am

German Athens wrote:When people are saying we’re trading the pick, is that just coming from the Horst statement that we want to maximize the asset? Or was there something else where it was explicit?

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Horst's off-season interview they mentioned they were exploring moving the pick.

ShootingtheJ · Post #237 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 12:19 am

BigO wrote:
MikeIsGood wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:Since Horst says we’re trading the pick, been thinking about what is realistic, yet at the same time favors us on the ledger.

Going with Josh Hart for Grayson/Hill/#24

He’d be the missing backcourt Swiss Army knife piece for us. The downside is the guy is injury prone. And while the stats this past year are good, they reflect a green light on a losing Blazers team. But the guy appears to be able to do a little bit of everything. Our version of acquiring Derrick White.

This would make me inexplicably happy, as a big Josh Hart fan, but I think Blazers are neither tearing it down, nor trading Hart as-is.

I assume Hart is a great switchable defender (I don't know), because he can't shoot (under 35% three point shooter).

He is the defender we need, , he rebounds really well, and he adds playmaking ability offensively. As for the 3 point shooting, I think most players shoot the 3 better from age 27-31 than they do from age 22-26.

WRau1 · Post #238 » by **WRau1** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:17 am

Hart is what DDV should've been.

tski1972 · Post #239 » by **tski1972** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:32 am

BigO wrote:
MikeIsGood wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:Since Horst says we’re trading the pick, been thinking about what is realistic, yet at the same time favors us on the ledger.

Going with Josh Hart for Grayson/Hill/#24

He’d be the missing backcourt Swiss Army knife piece for us. The downside is the guy is injury prone. And while the stats this past year are good, they reflect a green light on a losing Blazers team. But the guy appears to be able to do a little bit of everything. Our version of acquiring Derrick White.

This would make me inexplicably happy, as a big Josh Hart fan, but I think Blazers are neither tearing it down, nor trading Hart as-is.

I assume Hart is a great switchable defender (I don't know), because he can't shoot (under 35% three point shooter).

If only he had made 5 more threes over his five year career he’d have that magical 35%.

Post #240 » by **paulpressey25** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:50 am

tski1972 wrote:
If only he had made 5 more threes over his five year career he’d have that magical 35%.

And if he was a 40%+ three point shooter, we'd never be even dreaming up TI's involving Grayson and #24. We'd be talking about a Middleton type, well out of our reach.

He's just a really good all around player. Again the only issue I see are the injuries.