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Re: I am sold on Panchero for #1 pick. 

Post#241 » by The-Stallion70 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:00 pm

Unless Banchero and his agent requested to not let it out, I can't think of a reason why they want to be so secretive.

It may also basically be gamesmanship by the Magic to allow a full media access to one guy they work out, less media access to another and be totally secretive about another guy just to appear to be as confusing as possible to other teams.
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Re: I am sold on Panchero for #1 pick. 

Post#242 » by basketballRob » Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:04 pm

The-Stallion70 wrote:Unless Banchero and his agent requested to not it out, I can't think of a reason why they want to be so secretive.

It may also basically be gamesmanship by the Magic to allow a full media access to one guy they work out, less media access to another and be totally secretive about another guy just to appear to be as confusing as possible to other teams.
Another thing I noticed from the Chet photo in the Magic shorts, it looked like he was at RDV. Smith might have been the only player we took to our main practice court at the Amway.

Today the Magic's Jake Chapman did a 45 minute podcast about Jabari and called it the JabariCast.



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Re: I am sold on Panchero for #1 pick. 

Post#243 » by Dadouv47 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:06 pm

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tiderulz wrote:so....Trade down for Paolo confirmed


There are reports that Houston has Paolo number 1 on their board so it leaves OKC to trade. I see no reason for them to trade up. If they want Banchero we wont trade with them if they want Holmgren/Smith they will just wait who we pick.

i dont buy Houston wanting Banchero. they just drafted Sengun last year. they need a defensive presence or shooter more than Banchero. they have Kevin Porter and Jalen Green handling the ball.


Doesn't matter if they drafted Sengun...u pick BPA with #3, not fit wise. I seriously think we don't know what Orlando, OKC or Houston want. Orlando probably between Chet and Jabari and I would bet OKC wants Chet or Ivey but that's pure speculation.

Weltman being very smart but I don't get why so much mystery if he said that he wouldn't trade the first pick? (maybe I'm wrong on this)
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Re: I am sold on Panchero for #1 pick. 

Post#244 » by yoyojw17 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:07 pm

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so....Trade down for Paolo confirmed


Heard the same thing when he said that. hahaha.

And as much as I'm all about Chet.... if we choose someone else... that means that they think he is better than what for me... is a "Magic Type of Player"... and if that's the case... his expectations are greater than we think.

I can see how jabari, chet, paolo and ivey can change this franchise. Let's go WeHam... put your magic to work and make the best choice!
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Re: I am sold on Panchero for #1 pick. 

Post#245 » by IllMagic04 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:26 pm

We should just pick Paolo number 1. Screw the games. We were blessed with the number 1 pick. If he's your guy just get him. A trade with Houston takes the control out of your hands cause you have no idea what OKC does. Those extra assets probably aren't even worth it. If OKC wants to trade some assets to move to 1 then sure. Otherwise screw it. Just get your guy. Im hoping Paolo is the name called but I just don't think they taking him.

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Re: I am sold on Panchero for #1 pick. 

Post#246 » by basketballRob » Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:38 pm

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tiderulz wrote:
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There are reports that Houston has Paolo number 1 on their board so it leaves OKC to trade. I see no reason for them to trade up. If they want Banchero we wont trade with them if they want Holmgren/Smith they will just wait who we pick.

i dont buy Houston wanting Banchero. they just drafted Sengun last year. they need a defensive presence or shooter more than Banchero. they have Kevin Porter and Jalen Green handling the ball.


Doesn't matter if they drafted Sengun...u pick BPA with #3, not fit wise. I seriously think we don't know what Orlando, OKC or Houston want. Orlando probably between Chet and Jabari and I would bet OKC wants Chet or Ivey but that's pure speculation.

Weltman being very smart but I don't get why so much mystery if he said that he wouldn't trade the first pick? (maybe I'm wrong on this)
I'll be shocked if the Magic don't take Jabari. He's the only player we rolled out the red carpet for and we've used every opportunity to build his brand. We haven't ever acknowledged working out any other player. We posted Jabari's pics all over the Magic's social media and just today did a 45-minute podcast dedicated to Jabari. They've did everything but come and say, with the first pick the Orlando Magic select Jabari Smith Jr.

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Re: I am sold on Panchero for #1 pick. 

Post#247 » by VFX » Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:40 pm

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tiderulz wrote:i dont buy Houston wanting Banchero. they just drafted Sengun last year. they need a defensive presence or shooter more than Banchero. they have Kevin Porter and Jalen Green handling the ball.


Doesn't matter if they drafted Sengun...u pick BPA with #3, not fit wise. I seriously think we don't know what Orlando, OKC or Houston want. Orlando probably between Chet and Jabari and I would bet OKC wants Chet or Ivey but that's pure speculation.

Weltman being very smart but I don't get why so much mystery if he said that he wouldn't trade the first pick? (maybe I'm wrong on this)
I'll be shocked if the Magic don't take Jabari. He's the only player we rolled out the red carpet for and we've used every opportunity to build his brand.

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Or that might be part of the gamesmanship.
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Re: I am sold on Panchero for #1 pick. 

Post#248 » by Dadouv47 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:41 pm

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tiderulz wrote:i dont buy Houston wanting Banchero. they just drafted Sengun last year. they need a defensive presence or shooter more than Banchero. they have Kevin Porter and Jalen Green handling the ball.


Doesn't matter if they drafted Sengun...u pick BPA with #3, not fit wise. I seriously think we don't know what Orlando, OKC or Houston want. Orlando probably between Chet and Jabari and I would bet OKC wants Chet or Ivey but that's pure speculation.

Weltman being very smart but I don't get why so much mystery if he said that he wouldn't trade the first pick? (maybe I'm wrong on this)
I'll be shocked if the Magic don't take Jabari. He's the only player we rolled out the red carpet for and we've used every opportunity to build his brand.

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Think you guys are picking Jabari or Chet (worried you guys pick Chet) but don't get the Weltman mindgame if trading down isn't in consideration. He isn't getting a godfather offer anyway in this "weak" draft.
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Re: I am sold on Panchero for #1 pick. 

Post#249 » by basketballRob » Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:43 pm

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Doesn't matter if they drafted Sengun...u pick BPA with #3, not fit wise. I seriously think we don't know what Orlando, OKC or Houston want. Orlando probably between Chet and Jabari and I would bet OKC wants Chet or Ivey but that's pure speculation.

Weltman being very smart but I don't get why so much mystery if he said that he wouldn't trade the first pick? (maybe I'm wrong on this)
I'll be shocked if the Magic don't take Jabari. He's the only player we rolled out the red carpet for and we've used every opportunity to build his brand.

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Think you guys are picking Jabari or Chet (worried you guys pick Chet) but don't get the Weltman mindgame if trading down isn't in consideration. He isn't getting a godfather offer anyway in this "weak" draft.
Don't worry, Chet will be there.

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Post#250 » by Dadouv47 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:45 pm

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basketballRob wrote:I'll be shocked if the Magic don't take Jabari. He's the only player we rolled out the red carpet for and we've used every opportunity to build his brand.

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Think you guys are picking Jabari or Chet (worried you guys pick Chet) but don't get the Weltman mindgame if trading down isn't in consideration. He isn't getting a godfather offer anyway in this "weak" draft.
Don't worry, Chet will be there.

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I'm worried. Presti is crazy enough to pick Sharpe at 2 :lol:

Kidding, no idea who he wants at all between the top 4 prospects.
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Re: I am sold on Panchero for #1 pick. 

Post#251 » by basketballRob » Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:47 pm

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Think you guys are picking Jabari or Chet (worried you guys pick Chet) but don't get the Weltman mindgame if trading down isn't in consideration. He isn't getting a godfather offer anyway in this "weak" draft.
Don't worry, Chet will be there.

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I'm worried. Presti is crazy enough to pick Sharpe at 2

Kidding, no idea who he wants at all between the top 4 prospects.
I like Banchero but Chet's intriguing.

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Post#253 » by basketballRob » Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:00 pm

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We'll see. Jabari's still the betting favorite. Let's see if he holds it for three more days. I'm still really confident we take Jabari.

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Post#255 » by RookieStar » Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:33 pm

Is anyone here actually betting on this? Seriously?
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Post#256 » by basketballRob » Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:37 pm

RookieStar wrote:Is anyone here actually betting on this? Seriously?
I doubt it, but it's interesting to keep up with it.

Vegas is making a ton on this draft.

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Post#257 » by RookieStar » Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:54 pm

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RookieStar wrote:Is anyone here actually betting on this? Seriously?
I doubt it, but it's interesting to keep up with it.

Vegas is making a ton on this draft.

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I think Vegas really loves it when situation like this occurs.

1.) Teams like ORL and OKC getting top picks because we are both so unpredictable and secretive.
2.) There is no clear top talent in the draft.
3.) All projected top picks have different skillset that they bring to the table.

In any other draft, smart money is we pick Jabari. However, with the Magic org and their CIA-like secrecy, nothing is for sure thus money can easily be made.
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Re: I am sold on Panchero for #1 pick. 

Post#258 » by Dadouv47 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 11:00 pm

RookieStar wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Is anyone here actually betting on this? Seriously?
I doubt it, but it's interesting to keep up with it.

Vegas is making a ton on this draft.

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I think Vegas really loves it when situation like this occurs.

1.) Teams like ORL and OKC getting top picks because we are both so unpredictable and secretive.
2.) There is no clear top talent in the draft.
3.) All projected top picks have different skillset that they bring to the table.

In any other draft, smart money is we pick Jabari. However, with the Magic org and their CIA-like secrecy, nothing is for sure thus money can easily be made.


yeah it's a pretty good draft for bookmakers. No clear n°1 and probably cashing a lot of money from the pick 4 trade smoke.
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Post#259 » by IllMagic04 » Mon Jun 20, 2022 11:06 pm

RookieStar wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Is anyone here actually betting on this? Seriously?
I doubt it, but it's interesting to keep up with it.

Vegas is making a ton on this draft.

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I think Vegas really loves it when situation like this occurs.

1.) Teams like ORL and OKC getting top picks because we are both so unpredictable and secretive.
2.) There is no clear top talent in the draft.
3.) All projected top picks have different skillset that they bring to the table.

In any other draft, smart money is we pick Jabari. However, with the Magic org and their CIA-like secrecy, nothing is for sure thus money can easily be made.
So If I bet on Jabari and they take Jabari but trade him in a trade down move do I still win?

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Re: I am sold on Panchero for #1 pick. 

Post#260 » by basketballRob » Mon Jun 20, 2022 11:24 pm

IllMagic04 wrote:
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basketballRob wrote:I doubt it, but it's interesting to keep up with it.

Vegas is making a ton on this draft.

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I think Vegas really loves it when situation like this occurs.

1.) Teams like ORL and OKC getting top picks because we are both so unpredictable and secretive.
2.) There is no clear top talent in the draft.
3.) All projected top picks have different skillset that they bring to the table.

In any other draft, smart money is we pick Jabari. However, with the Magic org and their CIA-like secrecy, nothing is for sure thus money can easily be made.
So If I bet on Jabari and they take Jabari but trade him in a trade down move do I still win?

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