Draft Thread - Kings move up to #4

[Dadouv47]

OKC took both of Jalen and Jaylin Williams and I'm pissed. Loved both guys for Sacramento

Is Jalen that good? Feels like a reach at #12.

Not a reach at all.

6'6 with a 7'2 wingspan. Shoots 46% on spot up catch and shoot threes (best in the nation). 48% on all catch and shoot (best in the nation). However his best stat is shooting 61.5% on contested catch and shoot jumpers (best in the nation). He's going to be a problem!

He's got a good handle coupled with good vision and passing ability. He was in the 89th percentile as a scorer and passer in the pick and roll (HELLO CHET!).

Williams has the size, athleticism, shooting ability, and IQ to become one hell of a player. I envision him becoming one of the better players in this draft. Like I said, I'm a big fan.

Good to know, thanks. Guess I didn't watch enough of him because he wasn't ranked in the lottery in most mock drafts. Felt like a reach to me but Presti knows better and he has more fans than I thought...gonna watch more videos of him

[jeffjtk1234]

Man…i just can’t comprehend picking a guy at 4 who cannot create offense for himself or play make. Hes also not explosive at all. Plus we trade 37 with liddell on the board.

Ivey was the easy pick. This team is so lost.


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[OxAndFox]

OKC took both of Jalen and Jaylin Williams and I'm pissed. Loved both guys for Sacramento

Is Jalen that good? Feels like a reach at #12.

Not a reach at all.

6'6 with a 7'2 wingspan. Shoots 46% on spot up catch and shoot threes (best in the nation). 48% on all catch and shoot (best in the nation). However his best stat is shooting 61.5% on contested catch and shoot jumpers (best in the nation). He's going to be a problem!

He's got a good handle coupled with good vision and passing ability. He was in the 89th percentile as a scorer and passer in the pick and roll (HELLO CHET!).

Williams has the size, athleticism, shooting ability, and IQ to become one hell of a player. I envision him becoming one of the better players in this draft. Like I said, I'm a big fan.

Have a look at their P&R players now. WOW
Giddey is going to have a field day with Chet too and they have the luxury of SGA being able to get a shot from pretty much any scenario. Jalen on the outside, but also being able to play P&R. Going to be a fun team to watch.

[LightTheBeam]

Our starting bigs last year were Harkless/Holmes, now it's Murray/Sabonis

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[OxAndFox]

Man…i just can’t comprehend picking a guy at 4 who cannot create offense for himself or play make. Hes also not explosive at all. Plus we trade 37 with liddell on the board.

Ivey was the easy pick. This team is so lost.


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The latter part I am with you, absolutely. I think deep down, particularly after the news of Murray having dinner with Sabonis and Fox, we all knew Murray was going to be the pick.
I still would have gone with Ivey, but hey, Monte is the one with his career on the line and he got his guy.

As far as Murray and his flaws. I think his positives greatly outweigh these. And it so happens the majority of them are Kings' flaws, except the creating his own shot which they do need more of.
He won't be asked to do that much though because the offense will run through Fox/Sabonis/Davion, at least this next season.
Murray was never the sexy pick, but he is still going to be a really good player for the Kings. I think alongside Sabonis, he will surprise some people.

[blind prophet]

Man…i just can’t comprehend picking a guy at 4 who cannot create offense for himself or play make. Hes also not explosive at all. Plus we trade 37 with liddell on the board.

Ivey was the easy pick. This team is so lost.


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The latter part I am with you, absolutely. I think deep down, particularly after the news of Murray having dinner with Sabonis and Fox, we all knew Murray was going to be the pick.
I still would have gone with Ivey, but hey, Monte is the one with his career on the line and he got his guy.

As far as Murray and his flaws. I think his positives greatly outweigh these. And it so happens the majority of them are Kings' flaws, except the creating his own shot which they do need more of.
He won't be asked to do that much though because the offense will run through Fox/Sabonis/Davion, at least this next season.
Murray was never the sexy pick, but he is still going to be a really good player for the Kings. I think alongside Sabonis, he will surprise some people.

Definitely the safe pick. Think his floor is average NBA starter. Probably by year two. His 3 point shot may help us a ton too. I think he can also make others on the team better.

[blind prophet]

Our starting bigs last year were Harkless/Holmes, now it's Murray/Sabonis

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Thanks for bringing that up. Makes me feel a lot better.

[codydaze]

Man…i just can’t comprehend picking a guy at 4 who cannot create offense for himself or play make. Hes also not explosive at all. Plus we trade 37 with liddell on the board.

Ivey was the easy pick. This team is so lost.


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I mean he's not a number one option but you don't score 24 ppg on the efficiency he did without having some ability to create, he had a higher usage rate than Ivey did. I really don't see in Ivey what a lot of other people do, I see Oladipo with less defense. He's definitely not Ja. Keegan plays winning basketball and is going to help this team in a lot of ways.

[City of Trees]

Our starting bigs last year were Harkless/Holmes, now it's Murray/Sabonis

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Sabonis/Murray>>>>>>>>>>>>Holmes/Harkless

[Silver Man]

Our starting bigs last year were Harkless/Holmes, now it's Murray/Sabonis

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Thanks for bringing that up. Makes me feel a lot better.

Need a lot of perimeter shooting/scoring but having a couple solid bigs is a good step.

[OxAndFox]

I would have liked Monte to grab a late 2nd round pick and select Makur Maker. Yes he is related to Thon, it's his cousin and he and his brother Matur, played with the Sydney Kings last season.
Makur was the 16th ranked high school a couple of years ago. He had offers from Kentucky, UCLA and Kansas, but turned them down for Howard instead. Bad move, but that was the season Covid shut everything down.
Anyway, Makur is a lightly built 5 that has PG skills and can knock down the 3. This guy is seriously better than a lot of the players that got drafted this year and is still just 20.
There were 3 players drafted from the NBL this season, Dieng, Besson and Travers.
After it took a little longer to get into the rotation due to injury (coach Chase Buford wanted to play vets as a championship was the goal) the last part of the regular season he averaged 10/5.9. Shooting 43% from 3 in very limited minutes.
He wouldn't be a guy that can step on the court next season, but he is a true development big that is extremely talented. He has the skill to grab a board and dribble the length of the floor and make the right read ahead of him. Anyway, I think a team would get a nice piece for the future.
RC Buford did watch the finals to support Chase so expect the Spurs to be sniffing around.
There are also two other bigs, Ariel Hukporti (development project) and Duop Reath (can come in right away) that I think should be in the L.

[City of Trees]

How I see the starting 5 shaping up as of today

Davion
Fox
Barnes
Murray
Sabonis

Fox runs the point on offense, Davion primary ball defender on defense. Barnes and Murray eventually become interchangeable and Sabonis is the conductor that brings everything together.

[OxAndFox]

How I see the starting 5 shaping up as of today

Davion
Fox
Barnes
Murray
Sabonis

Fox runs the point on offense, Davion primary ball defender on defense. Barnes and Murray eventually become interchangeable and Sabonis is the conductor that brings everything together.

I think this works quite well. Barnes/Murray on the baseline 3.
Davion isn't a bad catch and shoot 3 point shooter (eye test, I'm not sure on his actual numbers) and he can bail out with a drive to the rim or pull up from foul line. The offense should be exciting to watch.
Davion also improved his floor general game with Sabonis in there and will learn to play off Sabonis a little more, as will the others.

[sackings916]

How I see the starting 5 shaping up as of today

Davion
Fox
Barnes
Murray
Sabonis

Fox runs the point on offense, Davion primary ball defender on defense. Barnes and Murray eventually become interchangeable and Sabonis is the conductor that brings everything together.

I agree with this starting lineup. Interested to see if they add another ballhandler off the bench or trust DDV as primary ballhandler off the bench.

[BoogieTime]

I've often said Fox could be better defensively at SG, and Davion will be a starting level player, so hope they fit

[LightTheBeam]

Our starting bigs last year were Harkless/Holmes, now it's Murray/Sabonis

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Thanks for bringing that up. Makes me feel a lot better.

This is my usual process as a kings fan
1. Hope
2. Denial
3. Depression
4. Acceptance

Repeat. Lol

I'm trying to think of the positives.

Fox gets to run the team again and hopefully is closer to post-hali fox. Our front court is significant better. Buddy is no longer on the team. Walton is gone.

There's 3 more things I'd like to see this off-season to round it out.

1. Trade Holmes for an upgraded 3rd guard.
2. Use the MLE on OPJ
3. Resign Damian Jones


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[LightTheBeam]

How I see the starting 5 shaping up as of today

Davion
Fox
Barnes
Murray
Sabonis

Fox runs the point on offense, Davion primary ball defender on defense. Barnes and Murray eventually become interchangeable and Sabonis is the conductor that brings everything together.

Yup was talking to someone about this earlier. Think Monte says Fox better defensively at the 2. Davion defending the 1 will stop the point of attack. Murray is versatile defensively and allows us to switch more. This would be my guess as of today as well.

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[KF10]

How I see the starting 5 shaping up as of today

Davion
Fox
Barnes
Murray
Sabonis

Fox runs the point on offense, Davion primary ball defender on defense. Barnes and Murray eventually become interchangeable and Sabonis is the conductor that brings everything together.

This highly depends on what step Fox takes next season.

Will he conform and stay the same? Or will he take the next step and level up? A lot of responsibility comes down to him. A lot of it comes down to him whether or not this team sinks or float, imo.

If I ignore the obvious size disadvantage, I don’t mind seeing a Davion & Fox backcourt. I think it can work out if you put the right pieces around.

But still, I would look for another guard in the off-season that can defend and shoot.

If DDV can regain his form, that would be great. DDV was a starting player for those champion Buck teams.

[OxAndFox]

I've often said Fox could be better defensively at SG, and Davion will be a starting level player, so hope they fit

Yep. The NBA isn't PG - PG, SG - SG etc any more.
What Fox will need to work on is his P&R D. Teams will target him in the POs if he doesn't become competent, which he will.

[OxAndFox]

Our starting bigs last year were Harkless/Holmes, now it's Murray/Sabonis

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Thanks for bringing that up. Makes me feel a lot better.

This is my usual process as a kings fan
1. Hope
2. Denial
3. Depression
4. Acceptance

Repeat. Lol

I'm trying to think of the positives.

Fox gets to run the team again and hopefully is closer to post-hali fox. Our front court is significant better. Buddy is no longer on the team. Walton is gone.

There's 3 more things I'd like to see this off-season to round it out.

1. Trade Holmes for an upgraded 3rd guard.
2. Use the MLE on OPJ
3. Resign Damian Jones


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This can't be underestimated. Since Walton got to Sacramento he preached about D, yet there was not 1 improvement in that area. Why. HOW?

I was really impressed with coach Brown in his presser about D and system and not only that, accountability.
Now, maybe he has the gift of the gab, and as a coach he most likely does, but I loved what he talked about.