2017 NBA DRAFT Part 3

Fotis St · Post #581 » by **Fotis St** » Tue May 30, 2017 3:36 pm

This draft has a "Henson" and an "MCW"...

I revealed in previous post that "Henson" is Jarret Allen

Find MCW if you can 8-)

Fotis St · Post #582 » by **Fotis St** » Tue May 30, 2017 3:40 pm

Badgerlander has class ... wow, he already has an Undrafted FA list

Fotis St · Post #583 » by **Fotis St** » Tue May 30, 2017 4:01 pm

Badgerlander wrote:
Rockmaninoff wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:
Quinton Hooker, Canyon Barry, and Michael Ojo leading my UDFA list atm

I like:

Malcolm Hill
Luke Kornet
J.J. Frazier
Derek Willis
Davon Reed
Derrick Walton
Jalen Moore

Lots of good UDFAs this year.

Peter Jok too. Good year to start a D League franchise

Peter Jok is my favourite ... what a sleeper, Khris Middleton all over him. I would sign him undrafted a rookie deal and I would give him 15 -17th roster spot what a steal.

If no interesting PG is left at #48 I would even draft Jok with my 2nd round pick

This discussion deserves its own thread

Fotis St · Post #584 » by **Fotis St** » Tue May 30, 2017 6:21 pm

Maybe Donoval Mitchell will be there too.

Khris for Tobias + Baynes #12

Not saying I would do it. But this is probably what it would take to get #12

Fotis St · Post #585 » by **Fotis St** » Tue May 30, 2017 6:37 pm

Gam wrote:
Fotis St wrote:Maybe Donoval Mitchell will be there too.

Khris for Tobias + Baynes #12

That's not enough. I'd ask for them to take Henson and give Stanley Johnson instead of Baynes and a 2019 top 10 protected 1st.

No, wait, you got it wrong. They trade Tobias to give Stanley Johnson playing time. Take out Johnson and Henson, 2019 pick looks good too.

Fotis St · Post #586 » by **Fotis St** » Tue May 30, 2017 7:33 pm

If Donovan Mitchell is at #12 I think he is the last of the top tiers. So Khris for Tobias + Mitchell + '19 1st is a way to move forward. If Mitchell is a hit we are immediate winners of the trade. Either way Khris has only 2 years left in his contract. Anyway it is the draft board and while Pistons shop #12 I made clear that the only player to have #12 is Khris. The main concern to me is ... Will Mitchell be there ?

Fotis St · Post #587 » by **Fotis St** » Tue May 30, 2017 7:57 pm

Gianstoppable wrote:
Fotis St wrote:If Donovan Mitchell is at #12 I think he is the last of the top tiers. So Khris for Tobias + Mitchell + '19 1st is a way to move forward. If Mitchell is a hit we are immediate winners of the trade. Either way Khris has only 2 years left in his contract. Anyway it is the draft board and while Pistons shop #12 I made clear that the only player to have #12 is Khris. The main concern to me is ... Will Mitchell be there ?

Khris back to the Pistons lol

And Tobias back to the Bucks 8-)

Hammond the guy that traded Tobias is gone, why not?

Someone said enlight me ... The player that has the most upside right now is Donovan Mitchell

All teams forums talk about him, others question why isn't he a top 6 pick, others compare him with Wade and Lillard, including myself, I posted it that his handles and footwork is only seen in top PGs of this league. Consistency ? How high is his ceiling ? Who knows ... but the buzz is true and the player has legit upside

Fotis St · Post #588 » by **Fotis St** » Tue May 30, 2017 8:06 pm

Lippo wrote:
Middleton/Henson/Mirza/17/2nd
for
Drummond/Harris/Johnson/12

Take Johnson out ... take Henson out and add Monroe (opt in ) in ...

Middleton/Monroe/17
for
Drummond/Tobias/12

I am not a fan of Drummond too ... he is an overpaid Monroe, but that year when he was leading the league in rebounds was something that Monroe will never achieve. So he has upside yes, overpaid still , yes.
Values are probably off... I think Drummond is too close of a negative. Not sure what the whole league's GM feel about him.
I guess one GM thinks he worths more than that and this can never happen.

Fotis St · Post #589 » by **Fotis St** » Tue May 30, 2017 8:17 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:I think we say the exact same things about every draft. I mean yeah, you usually have the one standout blue-chip guy (Fultz), then through the top 8-10 are the intriguing upside prospects, then it tapers out past the top-12 and once you get into the late lottery. Then we all talk ourselves into trading back because we're convinced that "there's guys in the late-1st and 2nd round that'll be rotation players or even starters", when in reality that rarely ever is the case.

Don't get me wrong, there's a bunch of fringe 1st and early 2nd round guys that I really like (BAM!, Morris, Motley, etc.), but I just can't talk myself into trading back unless it's a perfect situation. I don't really "love" any of those guys and I don't see some hidden Draymond or Gobert upside. Just take the best guy #17. Try and package a future 2nd or Vaughn with #48 to move up into the 31-40 range if there's a guy you really like there. Just don't willingly forfeit draft position just because you think a particular area of the draft is "weak", which as we've seen over the years, is incredibly difficult if not impossible to gauge.

I agree. I believe we are just frustrated from our core's injury's ... From Core 3 ... Giannis-Khris-Jabari ... We are down to Core one Giannis ... so we are acting like we have no core and "shoot for the moon". I guess we need to stay calm and see what we got next summer

Fotis St · Post #590 » by **Fotis St** » Tue May 30, 2017 8:55 pm

Burton looking like Beasley ... I guess he can be a scorer coming off the bench, nice highlights but I have to see his perimeter defense to judge him. I think his weight makes him a terrible perimeter defender and he is undersized as a 4. As another poster said ... slim him down asap in order to play the SF

Fotis St · Post #591 » by **Fotis St** » Tue May 30, 2017 9:38 pm

imithanos wrote:Baynes will opt out, right?
Can we sell the pistons the idea of Baynes+12 for Henson+17?

No cause the Pistons want to free cap space ... replace Henson with Vaughn and hope Mitchell waits at #12

Fotis St · Post #592 » by **Fotis St** » Wed May 31, 2017 6:24 am

Pachinko_ wrote:I *suspect* if any other team got Giannis they would sell the farm to try and win right now, whether he's 22 years old or not.
Giannis might look like he's **** around all summer but then in October he will somehow come back looking even better, because that's what Giannis does.

I *suspect* that the time for accumulating and developing talent is long gone and every year going forward is a missed opportunity. If we're not ready to compete then too bad, another year lost.

I think we are all frustrated from our Core's injuries. Add the fact that we don't have a GM and the fans' stress goes sky high.
I think it would be smarter to clear cap space as probable and wait for a star to come in.
In between add talent via picks...
We don't even know how far Khris-Giannis-Jabari can take us...
New GM will set the tone ... and Jason Kidd is a bad in game coach...

PS I am not jealous of the Raptors,Wizards position, the Celtics, SIxers will be the main threat moving forward...
The only player that I am thinking to cash in is Middleton, cause his contract expires in 2 seasons.
And I really like a healthy Mid on a team friendly contract.
If I was Bucks GM and thinking what you think I would be all over Dwyane Wade now... At least he would come for free.

Fotis St · Post #593 » by **Fotis St** » Wed May 31, 2017 6:47 am

tyland wrote:I believe #covefefe is shooting up many teams big boards at the moment.

What is that ?

Fotis St · Post #594 » by **Fotis St** » Wed May 31, 2017 11:11 am

Quiz : Who is the MCW of this draft class ?

The one who finds him first wins multiple and1s

Fotis St · Post #595 » by **Fotis St** » Wed May 31, 2017 1:03 pm

Gianstoppable wrote:
Fotis St wrote:Quiz : Who is the MCW of this draft class ?

The one who finds him first wins multiple and1s

Edmond Sumner

The winner is Gianstoppable

https://youtu.be/jah7rXSLNMs

Watch on YouTube

Fotis St · Post #596 » by **Fotis St** » Wed May 31, 2017 7:46 pm

emunney wrote:Tim Duncan without defense is Pau Gasol. Pau Gasol without rebounding is Brook Lopez. Brook Lopez without skill is Jarrett Allen.

Jarret Allen with less hair is John Henson

Fotis St · Post #597 » by **Fotis St** » Thu Jun 1, 2017 7:17 pm

emunney wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Starting to warm up to Kennard, but the problem is that I have no faith that this current coaching staff will ever put him in a position to maximize his strengths and utilize him correctly within the offense. Just imagining him trying to post up Shaun Livingston....

65% on catch and shoot from the left corner? Has to be intriguing. You wonder where he'll end up if his skill level keeps improving. I think he's going to end up being a pretty good PnR ball handler, but I think it's tough to put him at PG where he'll have to defend the ball. If you think Delly struggles with quickness...

If you look Frank Jackson's highlights ... most assists are from Kennard ... been telling you he is a 30 year old Ginobili which is a really good player. Why do I say 30 year old? Cause young Ginobili was dunking on people on nightly basis.

Fotis St · Post #598 » by **Fotis St** » Fri Jun 2, 2017 3:39 pm

I think he meant constant triple threat ... meaning Shoot,dribble,pass threat.

He said triple double though... Excuse him he is half Greek 8-)

Fotis St · Post #599 » by **Fotis St** » Fri Jun 2, 2017 9:55 pm

I am gettimg warmer for Semi at #17 ...

Read on Twitter

Fotis St · Post #600 » by **Fotis St** » Sat Jun 3, 2017 8:30 am

benultimate wrote:How much has Kris Dunn's value taken a hit? Could we get him for pick 17?

Let the Wolves reset on their future PG search with pick 7 while taking a big man to pair with KAT at 17.

Did you miss MCW ?

28.8 % 3P .... 61.1% FT...

on top of that he drafted so high that his rookie contract is a negative right now...

3 years left .... $4,046,760.....$4,221,000.....$5,348,007

No thanks