Woj: Nets trade Bogdanovic to Wizards

[pcbothwel]

It should be

Wall Sato
Beal Bojan
Porter Oubre
Keef McCullough
Gortat Mahinmi

I'm telling you guys, he got the exact type of talent you would pick with that late 1st and added a scorer while ridding us of a terrible contract, there is literally nothing to complain about on this one

Except that if you draft a guy, there's that 1 in 4 chance that he actually pans out to be a legit, rotation caliber player. McCullough is like drafting the guy that you know is not going to pan out. We can safely conclude that he's not a diamond in the rough. He's just... rough.

You guys are ridiculous. I remember in the 2015 draft everyone "Knew" EG was going to trade the pick for some "Middling, almost 30 y/o Vet". And if by the off chance he suprised people and didnt trade it, "He was Definitly picking some older, low ceiling rookie like Jerian Grant or Delon Wright"... But then he picked Oubre, and people still complained.\

Now you "Know" CMC wont pan out. Why? Because he was a raw player out of college that tore his ACL and dint play for over 14 months.
Gee, I dont know, maybe their organization run by a solid GM wanted him to get consistent minutes in the D-League because of how little he had played in the prior two years

[gtn130]

McCullough was worth significantly more as an asset on draft day than he's worth today. It's very rare that players follow his trajectory and end up being good.

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[J-Ves]

I don't even want to go the general board, they are probably all laughing at us

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[relinquishy]

Bogdanovic had to play vs starters, will be much more efficient off the bench. Like I said he's no Ginobili but he's more than qualified to play the Mike Miller/Kyle Korver role.

And he'll have Oubre next to him to guard the harder defensive matchup on the wing.

Bogdanovic is a career 36% from 3 on pretty low volume. Not sure I see the Kyle Korver comp.

A young player who plays for a **** team would be incredible if they were shooting Korver percentages. It's hard to get open looks on a **** team.

[Wizardspride]

I don't even want to go the general board, they are probably all laughing at us

Nope.

Most think it's a solid deal.

[gtn130]

Bogdanovic had to play vs starters, will be much more efficient off the bench. Like I said he's no Ginobili but he's more than qualified to play the Mike Miller/Kyle Korver role.

And he'll have Oubre next to him to guard the harder defensive matchup on the wing.

Bogdanovic is a career 36% from 3 on pretty low volume. Not sure I see the Kyle Korver comp.

A young player who plays for a **** team would be incredible if they were shooting Korver percentages. It's hard to get open looks on a **** team.

bro he's 27.

[J-Ves]

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With Nicholson off the books, I think we see Burke + 2nd shopped for an upgrade at PG.

[relinquishy]

I think it was obvious they were going to have to get rid of a 1st to off load Nicholson, just wished it was an '18 1st.

I wanna be optimistic and see how Bogdan performs as a bench player, but his numbers are NOT encouraging. Worst part is, if he somehow actually efficiently produces people will actually think Grunfeld is good.

Not possible because with the benefit of hindsight, Bogdan will be scooped up by another team in free agency. This is a loss either way. Either he is great and can't be resigned because Yawn's 16M contract, or he's so-so and proves to be not worth a 1st in a loaded draft.

But he won't because he's RESTRICTED.

[bealwithit]

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With Nicholson off the books, I think we see Burke + 2nd shopped for an upgrade at PG.

This would make me a bit happier with the trade. If can get someone decent, the bench will be improved for at least the rest of this season. What that's worth... guess we'll see.

[gtn130]

ITS NOT A 1ST FOR BOGDONOVICH HOLY ****. The 1st round value is McCullough. My god

The same McCullough who's played 72 minutes all season for the worst team in the NBA? No one was giving up a first for him.

Exactly this. Some of y'all are erroneously implying that the inclusion of CMC is the equivalent of acquiring the 28th pick - literally nobody would trade a late first for him right now. He's simply not worth that. ACL tear or not - not even making the roster on the worst team in the league is a bad look.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

You guys do realize that McCullough was a high upside big taken in the 1st round just like we would've drafted with that pick.

And we added a scorer and dumped Nicholson.

And it's lottery protected

McCullough, in his second season, could only manage to steal 72 total minutes of playing time on the worst team in the league. He's a bust.

I'd disagree. Guy tore his ACL in 2015, this is his first full season all the way back and healthy. Guy was seen as a boom or bust project who decided to leave school after having an injury shortened freshman year.

He sounds raw as hell, a definite project with a ton of tools, but maybe mental make up issues, and the ACL, and a need to learn.

Based on just my read up from draftexpress, and the ACL, I wouldn't have expected clarity on his development into a boom or bust till '18, and certainly not '17.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Chris-McCullough-7163/

Still completely enraged that we have lost yet another first rounder due to Ernie's grand mal stupidity. He has managed to completely blow a gigantic pile of firsts during this rebuild, just stunning. How on earth he hasn't been s canned is just amazing to me.

Yeah, but we KNOW Ernie is dumb. I expected this and tempered my expectations. At least we didn't get an over 30 player with NO upside. I was not thrilled with Lou Williams for the first. Not at all. I THINK McCullough is worth a first rounder and that his athleticism with the second unit will be a boost. I could be wrong but I can't see this kind of player being anything but serviceable. He's a poor man's Will Barton.

Ernie just Ernied. Made a huge mistake with Nicholson and he traded away a pick to not even have to speculate or show any draft acumen. But at least this time he got a young player back. A kid who just turned 22. WOULD I HAVE RATHER HAD SWANIGAN OR JOHN COLLINS OR TJ LEAF? Yes. However, I think the addition of Bojan Bogdanovic might make this deal palatable THIS SEASON.

Bogdanovic being an offensive veteran who's dropped over 40 and who's scored 20+ many times helps. I think his being a European league veteran might help with Satoransky's seeming nervousness.

Overall, I feel the same way I felt when Ernie traded a pick for Gortat. Expense of acquisition will hurt in the short run but the players added are talented and WILL help this team.

I like the deal.

[Upper Decker]

I think it was obvious they were going to have to get rid of a 1st to off load Nicholson, just wished it was an '18 1st.

I wanna be optimistic and see how Bogdan performs as a bench player, but his numbers are NOT encouraging. Worst part is, if he somehow actually efficiently produces people will actually think Grunfeld is good.

Not possible because with the benefit of hindsight, Bogdan will be scooped up by another team in free agency. This is a loss either way. Either he is great and can't be resigned because Yawn's 16M contract, or he's so-so and proves to be not worth a 1st in a loaded draft.

But he won't because he's RESTRICTED.

Restricted in the sense that the wizards can match another teams offer, but the Wizards are already so close to the lux tax threshold (presuming they resign Porter at max or near max), they can't afford to match any contracts received by Bogdan. He's gone after this year.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

We should start another thread or poll responses to this trade.

I think I'm in the minority by a lot. I like this trade.

[NatP4]

ITS NOT A 1ST FOR BOGDONOVICH HOLY ****. The 1st round value is McCullough. My god

The same McCullough who's played 72 minutes all season for the worst team in the NBA? No one was giving up a first for him.

Exactly this. Some of y'all are erroneously implying that the inclusion of CMC is the equivalent of acquiring the 28th pick - literally nobody would trade a late first for him right now. He's simply not worth that. ACL tear or not - not even making the roster on the worst team in the league is a bad look.

hmm no one would give up a 1st for a lottery level high upside forward, maybe

no one would give up a 1st for a rental for a scorer shooter like Bojan

no one gives up a 1st to only dump nicholson.

wait a minute, we did all three with one pick? wait that seems like a good idea but since my robot brain is telling me to hate EG i will complain!!

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hey wait a minute, thats the type of player we would see being discussed as a target of our late 1st in the draft thread.

[Dark Faze]

if nicholson wasn't such a brain dead trade by literally everyone who evaluated it then ernie having to trade a pick to erase said mistake might be more justified

christ could we not have included two seconds or something else to at least bring back booker?

[relinquishy]

Bogdanovic is a career 36% from 3 on pretty low volume. Not sure I see the Kyle Korver comp.

A young player who plays for a **** team would be incredible if they were shooting Korver percentages. It's hard to get open looks on a **** team.

bro he's 27.

And so is Kieff.

But... that late first round draft pick bust that we could've had...