Moar Melo Thread - Update PG 17 - THE Mike Rice says NY/Por/Hou back on

DaGawd · Post #101 » by **DaGawd** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:50 pm

Really not trying to do any deal with OKC that doesn't bring back Westbrook..

SelbyCobra · Post #102 » by **SelbyCobra** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:50 pm

I'm getting the camillepd vibe off this Melo stuff now for one reason: Kyrie's demand.

I don't think a Kyrie/Melo swap is even worth discussion because it's so outlandish, but what I do think Kyrie's request does is shakes up the Cavs to the point where Love makes sense to move in a scenario where Kyrie brings back a nice young piece.

For example, if Kyrie returns a young blue chip guard on the rise, I personally think it then makes much more sense to move Love in a Melo+ exchange to appease Lebron and replace some of Kyrie's scoring.

god shammgod · Post #103 » by **god shammgod** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:51 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:kanter reminds me of post injury amare. where you see him score with some post moves and you think "oh, he's good" but really he's killing you on the other end.

I don't think anything thinks of Kanter as an "asset". But he's younger, has a couple NBA skills (can score and is a great offensive rebounder), and he has one less year than Anderson. So in theory he should be easier to move either to a 3rd team or in the future.

i really don't know that's true. you can play ryan anderson without him completely killing your defense. with a center it's different. i think they're both pretty hard sells to anyone. let okc do it before we make the trade. i can almost guarantee you we'll be back at the 2 yard line forever.

Post #104 » by **mpharris36** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:51 pm

Mecca wrote:
JXL wrote:
Mecca wrote:
Lmfao at thinking that's the package we'd want

Ferguson and Abrines

No, no , no, no

The fact that you prefer Grant and McDermott over Abrines and Ferguson speaks towards your BBIQ.

its mind boggling actually. Ferguson and Abrines are OKC's best two assets. Grant and Mcdermott are expiring salary fillers.

Marty McFly · Post #105 » by **Marty McFly** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:51 pm

god shammgod wrote:he's negative value and yet very good teams want to trade for him. sounds like he's not to me.

which is why it's annoying hearing some talk like he's a throw in, in a kyrie trade.

Mecca · Post #106 » by **Mecca** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:52 pm

JXL wrote:
Mecca wrote:
JXL wrote:
No, no , no, no

The fact that you prefer Grant and McDermott over Abrines and Ferguson speaks towards your BBIQ.

The fact that I have more knowledge of trades than you?

Based on what? A blank statement with no backing?

You prefer McDermott and Grant over Abrines and Ferguson. That shows how little knowledge you have

Post #107 » by **mpharris36** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:52 pm

god shammgod wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:kanter reminds me of post injury amare. where you see him score with some post moves and you think "oh, he's good" but really he's killing you on the other end.

I don't think anything thinks of Kanter as an "asset". But he's younger, has a couple NBA skills (can score and is a great offensive rebounder), and he has one less year than Anderson. So in theory he should be easier to move either to a 3rd team or in the future.

i really don't know that's true. you can play ryan anderson without him completely killing your defense. with a center it's different. i think they're both pretty hard sells to anyone. let okc do it before we make the trade. i can almost guarantee you we'll be back at the 2 yard line forever.

ehhhh...for example brooklyn a young team why would they want a 30 year old on a 3 year deal

I would rather have a 25 year old on a 1 + 1 deal...both have offensive skills sets. both have bad contracts. 1 + 1 is a lot easier to swallow that 3 years.

Post #108 » by **j4remi** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:53 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
the rockets...

I don't know about you but ferguson is an interesting prospect. More interested in him than a 2020 HOU 1st rounder.

Capn'O wrote:
Arguably Houston

Mecca wrote:
Cavaliers sans Kyrie / Love

Geez...so the only teams with arguably less to offer than the Thunder are the ones that Melo will waive his clause to go to...That's about as New York Knicks as it gets.

Mecca · Post #109 » by **Mecca** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:53 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Mecca wrote:
JXL wrote:
No, no , no, no

The fact that you prefer Grant and McDermott over Abrines and Ferguson speaks towards your BBIQ.

its mind boggling actually. Ferguson and Abrines are OKC's best two assets. Grant and Mcdermott are expiring salary fillers.

Mp, can you handle this clown for me? I'm in the shower and can't type right now lol.

Just because McD and Grant are more house hold names doesn't mean they are better assets to gain in a trade. Abrines and Ferguson are cost controlled assets with more potential

god shammgod · Post #110 » by **god shammgod** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:53 pm

Marty McFly wrote:
god shammgod wrote:he's negative value and yet very good teams want to trade for him. sounds like he's not to me.

which is why it's annoying hearing some talk like he's a throw in, in a kyrie trade.

it's the only reason you might be able to do a kyrie deal. because willy and a pick aint sh*t on their own. and people think that's too much.

stuporman · Post #111 » by **stuporman** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:53 pm

Remember when Bulls fans were jizzing themselves over "McBuckets" because of some SL and preseason? ...aaahh...good times...

Mecca · Post #112 » by **Mecca** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:54 pm

I'm all in on Kanter, Ferguson, Abrines, and a protected 1 for Melo

god shammgod · Post #113 » by **god shammgod** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:55 pm

stuporman wrote:Remember when Bulls fans were jizzing themselves over "McBuckets" because of some SL and preseason? ...aaahh...good times...

we do that same sh*t here though. somebody yesterday said they didn't want to include dotson in a kyrie deal.

Mecca · Post #114 » by **Mecca** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:55 pm

Abrines and Ferguson can split time at the 3

We can probably dump Kanter at the deadline for a 2nd rounder

Post #115 » by **mpharris36** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:56 pm

DaGawd wrote:Really not trying to do any deal with OKC that doesn't bring back Westbrook..

Fury · Post #116 » by **Fury** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:56 pm

Mecca wrote:I'm all in on Kanter, Ferguson, Abrines, and a protected 1 for Melo

That's as good as it gets and these people are crying over Kanter's two year contract with a player option

Pillendreher · Post #117 » by **Pillendreher** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:57 pm

MaseInYourFace wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:
Dave4585 wrote:
We have a younger and cheaper Kanter named Willy.

Kanter is miles ahead of WIlly on scoring and on offensive rebounding honestly

I love Willy but Kanter is one of the most efficient scoring bigs in the league

he could be a star if he could defend a chair

He slows down your offense a lot and he's so bad defensively he ends up being a net negative.

Kanter is an excellent PnR Center tho. Him slowing the game down last year was more something out of necessity. Russ-Kanter over the last two years had a 118.4 ORtG.

Mecca · Post #118 » by **Mecca** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:57 pm

Fury wrote:
Mecca wrote:I'm all in on Kanter, Ferguson, Abrines, and a protected 1 for Melo

That's as good as it gets and these people are crying over Kanter's two year contract with a player option

It's an expiring. Kanter almost 100% opting out in his prime years. Plus he helps tank

Da_Mane_Man · Post #119 » by **Da_Mane_Man** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:58 pm

ok how about this?

since OKC doesn't really have any exciting pieces to give us, how about they take Noah off our hands?

Melo & Noah for Kanter, a future 1st, and a bunch of filler contracts to match (they don't have many though so it might need to involve a 3rd team)

god shammgod · Post #120 » by **god shammgod** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:58 pm

you know what, i think grant might be a late bloomer though. he's a good defender and he looked good offensively in the playoffs. i would take him. he's like a holiday type but younger.