2018 Trade Deadline Thread

[bravor]

Any chance you guys throw up a Hail Mary this deadline? Some combination of Evans/Wright/Ennis/Chalmers/Green for bad money and a pick or something. Try to clear the books a little to build around Kemba and get the tools for a late playoff push.

I had suggested in trade board (but apparentely nobody likes the idea here) ennis/Green + Davis for Kaminsky/Lamb without pick as i think talent wise Hornets would send more than what they receive.

I added Davis as you are loaded with frontcourt prospects and you have choices to do, and Davis is very foul prone and does not seem "commited" (but he is very young too).

But quite frankly, with the return of Zeller, i doubt they will do any move. Which is a pity, Ennis would be (have been?) a blessing here along Kemba (with or without Batum or Lamb), and Green would be a much better fit at the 4 even though Kaminsky has higher potential obviously.

[Benjamin Linus]

Just don't do what the Pelicans just did. Don't make a panic trade and give up a first (or a good, young asset) just to get obliterated in the first round, if you even make the playoffs at all.

That franchise man. You know you've hit an all-time low when you have to sign Emeka Okafor.

[catch20two]

Just don't do what the Pelicans just did. Don't make a panic trade and give up a first (or a good, young asset) just to get obliterated in the first round, if you even make the playoffs at all.

That franchise man. You know you've hit an all-time low when you have to sign Emeka Okafor.

The Pels dilemma is to make the playoffs to try to appease Anthony Davis or keep missing the postseason to watch him walk in free agency. It’s a catch-22 for them but getting a new head coach would do wonders for them. They never should’ve fired Monty Williams.

[TheKingofSting]

Since we suck at drafting I wouldn't mind trying to acquire Rodney Hood.


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[catch20two]

Since we suck at drafting I wouldn't mind trying to acquire Rodney Hood.


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Why?

[JDR720]

Just don't do what the Pelicans just did. Don't make a panic trade and give up a first (or a good, young asset) just to get obliterated in the first round, if you even make the playoffs at all.

That franchise man. You know you've hit an all-time low when you have to sign Emeka Okafor.

The Pels dilemma is to make the playoffs to try to appease Anthony Davis or keep missing the postseason to watch him walk in free agency. It’s a catch-22 for them but getting a new head coach would do wonders for them. They never should’ve fired Monty Williams.

Davis is signed until 2020. Cousins could, but his injury makes it less likely.

[TheKingofSting]

Since we suck at drafting I wouldn't mind trying to acquire Rodney Hood.


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Why?

I always liked him, I don't think he'd cost much to acquire but the only problem is we'd have to get creative to re-sign him.


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[catch20two]

Since we suck at drafting I wouldn't mind trying to acquire Rodney Hood.


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Why?

I always liked him, I don't think he'd cost much to acquire but the only problem is we'd have to get creative to re-sign him.


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That’s why I’m asking why should we trade for him when we don’t have the cap space to re-sign him and already got a wing on the roster that’s reasonably paid that’s just as good.

[TheKingofSting]

Why?

I always liked him, I don't think he'd cost much to acquire but the only problem is we'd have to get creative to re-sign him.


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That’s why I’m asking why should we trade for him when we don’t have the cap space to re-sign him and already got a wing on the roster that’s reasonably paid that’s just as good.

TBH, because he went to Duke. Cho probably going to make a desperate trade for someone.


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[Diop]

I don’t want to sound racist but I’m holidaying in Bali and i swear I saw Cho in the pool today. Luckily I just hit a long shot into the pool hoop then blocked the wife as she tried to take a shot, so I think I might be a shot for backup point guard.

Or it was just a random bald Chinese dude on holiday

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Since we suck at drafting I wouldn't mind trying to acquire Rodney Hood.


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Read on Twitter

Hood has been playing really poorly, especially on defense.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Read on Twitter

The tweet was part of a discussion about the Cavs ... and how he was projecting that there was at least a 1 in 3 shot that the Cavs would miss the playoffs altogether. But what caught my eye was the projection that the Hornets have an 80% chance to miss ... and this is before adjusting to Blake being in Detroit now. The odds could be considerably worse.

Which, working my way around to trade talk. My thoughts about trying to win now,

1. Kemba, MKG, Marvin, Lamb, & Zeller are the mostly net positive guys on the team now, though Marv seems to be trending down a bit. To win now, these are the guys that the team needs to avoid trading unless amazing value like Love is coming back.

2. Dwight is playing great individual ball, but isn't helping the team nearly as much as he could be - and Batum is trending up. It's unlikely that either of these guys could be traded for net positive gain now.

3. That leaves the teams primary trade assets as their pick, Monk, Frank, & maybe, MCW. It's going to be hard to get a real difference maker back for that salary.

Personally I think that the Hornets are going to miss the playoffs this year. unless there is major change With that in mind my calculus changes. It's time to either go big and try to trade for a star like Love or to throw in the towel and try to get either flexibility / picks by trading guys like Marvin. Getting rid of Batum or Dwight, even if it's for little gain, might be the best thing too.

I'm not saying blow it all up ... but I do feel that Dwight, Marv, and Batum are all on the downside of their games and trading them for younger guys (or even picks) it the way to go.

[Rich4114]

We've got to find a way to move either up or down. Landing picks 9-12 in the lottery every year is a recipe for mediocrity. It's locked in when we have salary cap issues like we do.

Teams who want to win now, will accept some of our players for future assets. Fans want to trade guys for first round picks the next draft, but that typically only happens when there's a star involved. Trading someone who can help a team in contention win NOW while getting cap flexibility and say a 2020 1st rounder in return would be an exciting get for this team. The Celtics set themselves up by gaining many future assets - future meaning 2-5 years down the road. A team that's trying to win now might not be as good 3-4 years out once their cycle of players runs out.

So, what teams feel like they can take another step by adding an MKG, Cody, Frank, etc? Those are not unreasonable contracts and would get us possible salary cap relief plus a future asset. Don't forget, the odds of cashing in on a lottery pick get better after the 2018 draft once the system changes.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Wiretap article talks about how the market is currently dominated by sellers. Teams want out of those Batum like deals.

[amcoolio]

Listen to the Lowe Post podcast with Woj

-Lowe suggests Kemba and Batum for IT, BKN pick, Thompson, JR Smith

-Woj said Cleveland and Charlotte have been talking about Kemba trade

-Woj feels Charlotte has been hesitient internally on which direction to go

[yosemiteben]

Listen to the Lowe Post podcast with Woj

-Lowe suggests Kemba and Batum for IT, BKN pick, Thompson, JR Smith

-Woj said Cleveland and Charlotte have been talking about Kemba trade

-Woj feels Charlotte has been hesitient internally on which direction to go

Was hoping someone would listen and report back, thanks.

[dmutombo321]

Listen to the Lowe Post podcast with Woj

-Lowe suggests Kemba and Batum for IT, BKN pick, Thompson, JR Smith

-Woj said Cleveland and Charlotte have been talking about Kemba trade

-Woj feels Charlotte has been hesitient internally on which direction to go

If I'm Charlotte, I push for the inclusion of Shumpert instead of JR Smith (Shump is slightly cheaper and would come off the books a year earlier) and also ask for Zizic (nice young prospect on rookie deal). Send them JOB for deep bench depth to replace Zizic.

Otherwise, this trade would accomplish the goal of flipping Kemba into a top 8 pick and developmental young player to begin the rebuild while also ridding themselves of Batum's contract for cheaper deals that come off the books earlier. If there's no moratorium on trading IT again after we acquire him, then do so for whatever he may yield. If not, just buy him out and let him walk.

Then look to auction off Dwight/Marvin to any other playoff teams that need help.

[Hornet Mania]

If the organization does choose to go for a full tear-down then Kemba/Batum for IT/Nets pick is the best possible outcome in the current trade market. Makes sense for the Cavs too if they decide to make one last push. It's probably the most talent (assuming Batum continues to play better) Cleveland could get for that pick and Kemba/Love isn't a bad Plan B should Lebron skip town again.

Personally I'm still not in favor of trading anyone, let's ride it out and then fire Cliff + maybe Cho.

[316Hornets]

I'm just not seeing the value in trading Kemba for the BKN pick. It's going to be late lottery because they have no reason to tank. We'd probably pick some guy that was good in college but no NBA value and trade him for a 2nd rounder 2 years from now.

It's also too late for us to tank with the recent winning streak.

Keep Kemba if all we're getting is the BKN pick.

[DY_nasty]

I'm just not seeing the value in trading Kemba for the BKN pick. It's going to be late lottery because they have no reason to tank. We'd probably pick some guy that was good in college but no NBA value and trade him for a 2nd rounder 2 years from now.

It's also too late for us to tank with the recent winning streak.

Keep Kemba if all we're getting is the BKN pick.

its never too late to tank