OT: Recreational use of Marijuana will be legal in Illinois

[DuckIII]

Smh Illinois out of all states should not have weed legalized. The crime rate is going to increase even more now in result to this.

Since this thread is 5 pages long and I’m just now reading it, I assume it has been pointed out by now that you have it exactly backwards. Legalizing something eliminates the often violent criminal element connected with its sale and trafficking.

People don’t get murdered over the production, delivery and sale of a nice dry Cabernet. Or at least not since Prohibition ended. Which is a perfect bit of history we have to illustrate the point.

[DuckIII]

Perhaps an unpopular opinion, but an opinion nonetheless: Most, if not all, drugs should be legalized. Do what you want to your body. We've already proven prohibition doesn't work.

And prostitution and gambling. The collateral criminal element and adverse health consequences associated with all of these “sin trades” will be greatly reduced or even virtually eliminated with governmental regulation and controls.

[Ugly Duckling]

Smh Illinois out of all states should not have weed legalized. The crime rate is going to increase even more now in result to this.

Where did you come up with this theory?

Therory? Weed can cause phycosis in some people with underlying mental health disorders. People who would not have used the drug due to consequences will now be able to use it without any penalty. Thus some people who have not had mental health issues in the past who take weed, can start to trigger these issues leading to violence.

This is a great point that I never even considered

[Ugly Duckling]

It's a money thing. Illinois is bankrupt. This will bring some money in

[DuckIII]

It's a money thing. Illinois is bankrupt. This will bring some money in

There is a whole lot more to it than that, but yes that is one of the several positive benefits.

[fleet]

Where did you come up with this theory?

Therory? Weed can cause phycosis in some people with underlying mental health disorders. People who would not have used the drug due to consequences will now be able to use it without any penalty. Thus some people who have not had mental health issues in the past who take weed, can start to trigger these issues leading to violence.

This is a great point that I never even considered

It IS a great point, since nobody can get their hands on weed until it is legalized. By the way, when I run for president, my chief platform plank is going to be to ban guns, imprison all new gun possession violators, and trade them to free old weed possesion violators currently imprisoned.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

Where did you come up with this theory?

Therory? Weed can cause phycosis in some people with underlying mental health disorders. People who would not have used the drug due to consequences will now be able to use it without any penalty. Thus some people who have not had mental health issues in the past who take weed, can start to trigger these issues leading to violence.

This is a great point that I never even considered

You’re talking about a relatively small population that a) avoided weed because it was illegal, b) is susceptible to weed-related psychosis, and c) uses enough weed post-legalization to meaningfully increase their risk of psychosis.

There are trade offs for sure, but the net effect tilts heavily in favor of legalization.

[transplant]

Glad some of you guys are happy because while they were passing legalized pot, they taxed the @&#!* out of us at the same time.

$80 billion spent with no reforms whatsoever and no property tax relief at all (we have some of the highest in the nation in case you didn’t know). Also let’s not forget the tax added to gas now too.

To add insult to injury, they rushed things last minute with a 180+ page bill they were expected to vote on then and there that “conveniently” throws a 2.5% raise to them as well. Whoops - that was an “error” that shouldn’t have made it through... except it did.

I realize some of my fellow Bulls fans may live in the city and so a lot of this doesn’t matter, and I won’t make this a R vs D thing here on a Bulls message board, but it’s absolutely killing the rest of us.

But hey, they made pot legal!

The fact that they approved so many other tax bills IN ADDITION TO getting all sorts of brand new revenue sources through marijuana legalization and expanded gambling legalization should be no surprise. But hey, we elected them and, in theory, they're representing us.

Yeah, it makes me sick, but we've gotten screwed voting in democrats and we've gotten screwed voting in republicans. When you vote in an independent outsider, the system destroys him with prejudice. I'm open to ideas.

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[johnnyvann840]

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Just saw this. Looks like they had a Saturday night session last night and shoved this through. I guess Pritzker is supposed to sign it today if he hadn't already.

Strange... I just got a news alert as I'm typing this. I guess Pritzker has signed off on it already. Illinois is getting more casinos and is going to have sports books soon enough. Wow. What a week.

[Mapelgleaf]

Glad some of you guys are happy because while they were passing legalized pot, they taxed the @&#!* out of us at the same time.

$80 billion spent with no reforms whatsoever and no property tax relief at all (we have some of the highest in the nation in case you didn’t know). Also let’s not forget the tax added to gas now too.

To add insult to injury, they rushed things last minute with a 180+ page bill they were expected to vote on then and there that “conveniently” throws a 2.5% raise to them as well. Whoops - that was an “error” that shouldn’t have made it through... except it did.

I realize some of my fellow Bulls fans may live in the city and so a lot of this doesn’t matter, and I won’t make this a R vs D thing here on a Bulls message board, but it’s absolutely killing the rest of us.

But hey, they made pot legal!

The fact that they approved so many other tax bills IN ADDITION TO getting all sorts of brand new revenue sources through marijuana legalization and expanded gambling legalization should be no surprise. But hey, we elected them and, in theory, they're representing us.

Yeah, it makes me sick, but we've gotten screwed voting in democrats and we've gotten screwed voting in republicans. When you vote in an independent outsider, the system destroys him with prejudice. I'm open to ideas.

In all of this, what is lost is compromise from both sides. Republicans had no chance to stop this, not because they were against it (which most were) but because they have been so headstrong that Madigan and the “big bad” democrats are the enemy and all the lines of dialogue are completely eroded.

The divide is like a poison to this state - gone are the old school days when they could talk, hang out and sure maybe one side has a supermajority, but you would at least get them to consider the rest of the state and maybe make a few concessions out of civility.

With no reforms at all to actually stop this insanity it’s like a giant middle finger with each side thinking the other ones doing it.

Full disclosure - I am pretty active in politics up here, held office (not at the state level) and am a Republican. Again I won’t bash anyone because that’s exactly what has gotten us here, but I can see the mistakes from our side in this even though we voted against it.

[TheStig]

I don't like Pritzker's tax plans but I think legalizing pot and gambling is good. Anyone who does it will do it anyway and it makes criminals out of people who do. I'd rather focus on real crimes. Like how many toliets pritzker has lol

[theagent]

So....where the casino gonna built? I have a idea......do we really need englewood?

[Michael Jackson]

So....where the casino gonna built? I have a idea......do we really need englewood?

That is cursed ground. That is where HH Holmes murder castle was. Kinda odd that’s where the center of all our violence is still today. Doubt that is where they are going to put a new casino for a bunch of obvious reasons.

[ATRAIN53]

I'm happy for a couple of reasons-

A big one is so that everyone can stop smoking these Chinese knock off vape pens that are full of all kinds of BS crap. I always wondered what was in some of those things. Being able to get the legit med one from shops just makes me cringe when I see people smoking unlabeled ones. Yes I see you guys all over the loop smoking that crap.

It should clear up the CBD confusion-
CBD extracted from HEMP plants has zero THC ans is the snake oil CDB they are selling at your local Walgreens.
CBD extracted from plants that have THC has the killer terpenes and those + CBD + THC is where you see actual medical benefits. They breed these low THC strains that are high in CBD now. This stuff is amazing, like 3:1 ratio. Terpene science is really the secret of all these strains and why this weed is beeter than that weed.

Illinois growers are KILLING it.
I have smoked everything imaginable for 30+ years. The law forced all the IL growers to basically start from scratch and they have grown amazing strains and all kinds of new crosses. You know how NAPA valley is famous for wine? IL growers like CRESCO, GTI, ATARXIA, REVOLOTION, NATURES GRACE and GRASSROOTS are gonna be household names when it comes to quality in weed. CRESCO is already branched out PA, OH and Vegas.

I wonder how long it will take before there are shops you can just walk into. Whether medical dispensaries will just be converted to recreational or what.

They won't. The medical dispensaries will stay medical. Just like in Colorado they still have medical dispensaries. Medical is taxed less and has higher standards for purity and labeling accuracy.

gonna be in CO in a few weeks. Do they still take IL med cards at the med shops?
and can I come hang with you in that warehouse for a few hrs?

[johnnyvann840]

I'm happy for a couple of reasons-

A big one is so that everyone can stop smoking these Chinese knock off vape pens that are full of all kinds of BS crap. I always wondered what was in some of those things. Being able to get the legit med one from shops just makes me cringe when I see people smoking unlabeled ones. Yes I see you guys all over the loop smoking that crap.

It should clear up the CBD confusion-
CBD extracted from HEMP plants has zero THC ans is the snake oil CDB they are selling at your local Walgreens.
CBD extracted from plants that have THC has the killer terpenes and those + CBD + THC is where you see actual medical benefits. They breed these low THC strains that are high in CBD now. This stuff is amazing, like 3:1 ratio. Terpene science is really the secret of all these strains and why this weed is beeter than that weed.

Illinois growers are KILLING it.
I have smoked everything imaginable for 30+ years. The law forced all the IL growers to basically start from scratch and they have grown amazing strains and all kinds of new crosses. You know how NAPA valley is famous for wine? IL growers like CRESCO, GTI, ATARXIA, REVOLOTION, NATURES GRACE and GRASSROOTS are gonna be household names when it comes to quality in weed. CRESCO is already branched out PA, OH and Vegas.

I wonder how long it will take before there are shops you can just walk into. Whether medical dispensaries will just be converted to recreational or what.

They won't. The medical dispensaries will stay medical. Just like in Colorado they still have medical dispensaries. Medical is taxed less and has higher standards for purity and labeling accuracy.

gonna be in CO in a few weeks. Do they still take IL med cards at the med shops?
and can I come hang with you in that warehouse for a few hrs?

Spot on about the CBD carts.

Colorado medical shops will take your out of state card but they also have some really great high quality rec stores. One of the best medical shops in Denver is Standing Akimbo.

https://www.standingakimbodenver.com/

I highly recommend stopping in if you have your IL card.

If I still had a warehouse in Boulder, I would not have any problem with you hanging out. I sold out of my Colorado interests a while ago. That warehouse you see is in Alaska. I'm actually heading back up there tomorrow for 10 days. Going to go fishing and check out the farm. My next stop is New Jersey, but won't be for another couple of months. Going to oversee the opening of a 100k sq. ft. facility there.

[madvillian]

I'm happy for a couple of reasons-

A big one is so that everyone can stop smoking these Chinese knock off vape pens that are full of all kinds of BS crap. I always wondered what was in some of those things. Being able to get the legit med one from shops just makes me cringe when I see people smoking unlabeled ones. Yes I see you guys all over the loop smoking that crap.

It should clear up the CBD confusion-
CBD extracted from HEMP plants has zero THC ans is the snake oil CDB they are selling at your local Walgreens.
CBD extracted from plants that have THC has the killer terpenes and those + CBD + THC is where you see actual medical benefits. They breed these low THC strains that are high in CBD now. This stuff is amazing, like 3:1 ratio. Terpene science is really the secret of all these strains and why this weed is beeter than that weed.

Illinois growers are KILLING it.
I have smoked everything imaginable for 30+ years. The law forced all the IL growers to basically start from scratch and they have grown amazing strains and all kinds of new crosses. You know how NAPA valley is famous for wine? IL growers like CRESCO, GTI, ATARXIA, REVOLOTION, NATURES GRACE and GRASSROOTS are gonna be household names when it comes to quality in weed. CRESCO is already branched out PA, OH and Vegas.

I wonder how long it will take before there are shops you can just walk into. Whether medical dispensaries will just be converted to recreational or what.

They won't. The medical dispensaries will stay medical. Just like in Colorado they still have medical dispensaries. Medical is taxed less and has higher standards for purity and labeling accuracy.

gonna be in CO in a few weeks. Do they still take IL med cards at the med shops?
and can I come hang with you in that warehouse for a few hrs?

While I am ignorant of the Illinois growers I would assume they will have a very hard time competing with west coast growers. Not only can you grow weed in greenhouses 12 months a year you also have dirt cheap hydro power. We have a massive weed glut in the PNW. Oregon apparently had a 2.3 MILLION pound oversupply last year. That's over 1 BILLION JOINTS worth.

For the consumer it's awesome, you can get grams out here of primo stuff for $4-7 gram, even cheaper in bulk.

But growers are struggling with margins.

[Nikola]

I wonder how long it will take before there are shops you can just walk into. Whether medical dispensaries will just be converted to recreational or what.

They won't. The medical dispensaries will stay medical. Just like in Colorado they still have medical dispensaries. Medical is taxed less and has higher standards for purity and labeling accuracy.

The vast majority of medical dispensaries in Colorado switched over to selling both medical and recreational. Most recreational sales are made by previously medical dispensaries.

[Nikola]

One societal benefit I don't think anyone had touched on is that the marijuana sold at dispensaries is significantly less harmful to users. Yes more people will probably smoke, but the people who already smoked will now be getting a much healthier product.

[dice]

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anybody know how long it'll take to get domestic online poker firmly established in IL?