2020 Offseason Strategy Thread

[BlazersBroncos]

As an outsider, I feel that Hayward would be huge. Holiday has to be option #1, but if you looking at Richardson or Hayward, you take the talent. Gordon could be that 2nd facilitator and is clearly OK with playing off ball and letting other guys score based on his time in Boston. He showed this year that he can still play SF as well. You would need to move 18 and Powell to make room for both him and THJ if I am not mistaken. Draft Robert Woodard at 31, a nice 3/D guy similar to DFS IMO. This team is filthy:

G - Seth Curry / Delon Wright / Jalen Brunson
G - Luka Doncic / Tim Hardaway Jr / Jalen Brunson
F - Gordon Hayward / Tim Hardaway Jr
F - Dorian Finney-Smith / Robert Woodard
C - Kristaps Porzingis / Maxi Kleber / Bobam Marjanovic

[Pointguard01]

The fear with Hayward (and others that aren’t + defenders) is if this team can win with this defense. Offensively, that team is amazing, but we kinda already are without Hayward. If we add Hayward, I think we have to add someone other than THJ as part of our Best 5.

[Mr B]

Ill be surprised if the Mavs make any major moves in free agency this off season. If they do make any major moves it will be in a trade. I don’t see them adding any salary to 2021.


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[swaggerbox]

maybe Mavs follow the Suns' formula of surrounding Booker and Ayton with three 3&D guys (mikal,cam,oubre). with dfs, we only need to look for two more (maybe paul reed and elijah hughes or desmond bane)

[Pointguard01]

Ill be surprised if the Mavs make any major moves in free agency this off season. If they do make any major moves it will be in a trade. I don’t see them adding any salary to 2021.


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10000% agree. If you look at our depth chart heading into next year, we already have 8 of the 10 spots secured.

G Doncic / Brunson
G Hardaway / Curry
F
F Finney-Smith / Kleber
C Porzingis / Powell

And this doesn’t consider:
- Delon Wright
- #18 and #31
- Justin Jackson (though he’s out of the rotation)


Pending what we do with the draft and how good they actually are, I’d love to have have 15-20 mins for one of the rookies.

I’d be interested in signing any of the following to 1-year deals with the full MLE (1-yr, up to ~8-9mill):

- Jae Crowder (stretch)
- Kent Bazemore
- JaMychal Green
- Marvin Williams
- Maurice Harkless

All of them would bring the right defense (and decent shooting) to the Starting Lineup for next season, while not preventing us from playing the rookies. All but Crowder should be available.

Otherwise, I’d love even more if we could move Delon Wright for that player, either through a S&T with any of the above or some player on a 1-yr deal.

[arkuo]

G Doncic / Brunson
G Hardaway / Curry
F
F Finney-Smith / Kleber
C Porzingis / Powell

If that Aaron Gordon trade was agreed upon during the deadline, Gordon would have filled that other PF slot easily. But now it looks like we will all be saving our chips for Giannis in 2021.

[Michaellam1987]

G Doncic / Brunson
G Hardaway / Curry
F
F Finney-Smith / Kleber
C Porzingis / Powell

If that Aaron Gordon trade was agreed upon during the deadline, Gordon would have filled that other PF slot easily. But now it looks like we will all be saving our chips for Giannis in 2021.

I still think Aaron Gordon being a good fit to DAL, just don’t think ORL will part with him so easily. For the 2021 cap space, we can always dump Seth/Maxi/DFS to create cap space, if there is really a Mega FA willing to join us. Honestly, what has happened in the past summer has proved that the key point is to have mega FA willing to join you, instead of having tons of cap space but no one wants to come

[Teffer10]

maybe Mavs follow the Suns' formula of surrounding Booker and Ayton with three 3&D guys (mikal,cam,oubre). with dfs, we only need to look for two more (maybe paul reed and elijah hughes or desmond bane)

I completely agree and why I think they should either draft Josh Green and Paul Reed or trade both picks (and Brunson if needed) to move up for Vassell and then sign a decent FA wing like Josh Richardson.

Long-Term:
Luka/Brunson
Green/
DFS/THJ
Reed/Maxi
KP/WCS

Short-Term:
Luka/Burke/Barea
Richardson/Seth/Reaves
Vassell/Wright/Jackson
DFS/Maxi/Powell
KP/WCS/Boban

I prefer a long-term strategy opposed to a must win-now but I understand both ways and really really do like that short-term lineup if it could become reality. Luka would be playing with 4 really good defenders who all have the ability to score not to mention a lot of scoring punch coming from the bench. The long-term idea is risky but Green and Reed are two of the best defenders in this draft and would be excellent fits with both Luka and KP and that core could become a dynasty if those two live up to what I consider their potential.

[aguiar95]

G Doncic / Brunson
G Hardaway / Curry
F
F Finney-Smith / Kleber
C Porzingis / Powell

I’d be interested in signing any of the following to 1-year deals with the full MLE (1-yr, up to ~8-9mill):

- Jae Crowder (stretch)
- Kent Bazemore
- JaMychal Green
- Marvin Williams
- Maurice Harkless

You should move DFS to the SF position. He can't play PF (showcased in the bubble). I feel one of the rookies should be a backup SF that can on-ball defend for when DFS sits. That leaves us with a glaring starting PF hole on our lineup.

[Pointguard01]

My fear with DFS as SF is I don't yet trust his 3-point shot. Too many players have had one good season and then reverted back. He was a 31% shooter before then season and very streaky in college. If DFS is really a 37-38% 3-point shooter, than I'm comfortable with him at SF. If he reverts back to sub-35%, then I don't love him at SF.

Also, I actually think he's a much better defender against a big forward(Kawai, Marcus Morris, etc types) vs smaller, quicker players. He's versatile , but it feels he's better there to me.

It really depends on what the other Forward looks like. I think that person has to be a above average to good proven shooter

Long-Term:
Luka/Brunson
Green/
DFS/THJ
Reed/Maxi
KP/WCS

The likeliness we get 2 starters in the backend of the 1st round is so unlikely. Most drafts have 10-15 starters, so we'd have to really nail the draft. Now, the idea that we have 2 shots at a quality starter isn't completely unlikely.

I don't really understand your long-term vs short-term strategy. Is it just that the long-term relies on both rookies succeeding? I don't know why with the long-term strategy, you wouldn't still pursue someone like Josh Richardson (like you do in your shirt-term strategy). Even if Josh Green works out in your secnario, he's going to be 3+ years away from being that player, so you probably want to still pursue Richardson in the meantime.

I'd absolutely offer Brunson, #18 and #31 for Devin Vassell. This 9-man rotation is really solid in the short-term and long-term, with still the opportunity to have some cap flexibility in 2021.

G- Doncic |Wright
G-Hardaway | Curry
F- Vassell |
F-Finney-Smith | Kleber
C- Porzingis | Powell

[Teffer10]

My fear with DFS as SF is I don't yet trust his 3-point shot. Too many players have had one good season and then reverted back. He was a 31% shooter before then season and very streaky in college. If DFS is really a 37-38% 3-point shooter, than I'm comfortable with him at SF. If he reverts back to sub-35%, then I don't love him at SF.

Also, I actually think he's a much better defender against a big forward(Kawai, Marcus Morris, etc types) vs smaller, quicker players. He's versatile , but it feels he's better there to me.

It really depends on what the other Forward looks like. I think that person has to be a above average to good proven shooter

Long-Term:
Luka/Brunson
Green/
DFS/THJ
Reed/Maxi
KP/WCS

The likeliness we get 2 starters in the backend of the 1st round is so unlikely. Most drafts have 10-15 starters, so we'd have to really nail the draft. Now, the idea that we have 2 shots at a quality starter isn't completely unlikely.

I don't really understand your long-term vs short-term strategy. Is it just that the long-term relies on both rookies succeeding? I don't know why with the long-term strategy, you wouldn't still pursue someone like Josh Richardson (like you do in your shirt-term strategy). Even if Josh Green works out in your secnario, he's going to be 3+ years away from being that player, so you probably want to still pursue Richardson in the meantime.

I'd absolutely offer Brunson, #18 and #31 for Devin Vassell. This 9-man rotation is really solid in the short-term and long-term, with still the opportunity to have some cap flexibility in 2021.

G- Doncic |Wright
G-Hardaway | Curry
F- Vassell |
F-Finney-Smith | Kleber
C- Porzingis | Powell

This might be a year that we can find two eventual starters with our picks because the middle of this draft is supposedly the strength but I do understand your point.

My point on ST vs LT is that we can either use the two picks and develop them or make trades to fit a more win-now strategy.
I used Richardson as an example of someone we could go after as a FA and then trade our picks and Brunson to get Vassell for a strategy that could satisfy both. I personally would like to see us grow organically since KP is only 25 and Luka is about 5 years from entering his prime but if we can somehow land Vassell I think we'd still be growing organically while competing immediately. My biggest fear is that Cuban will trade our picks for a 30+ yo vet.

My concerns on THJ are similar as yours on DFS. THJ seems to be there when we don't need him but not there when we do.
I guess we'll see this week. I do think THJ is an integral part of our potent offense and if I'm not mistaken he is about the same age as Richardson.

But either way I would absolutely love a SL of: Luka/THJ/Vassell/DFS/KP or Luka/Richardson/Vassell/DFS/KP. Not sure we'd have enough cap space but I'd go after Marcus Morris in FA to polish that roster.

[ejs78]

Bottom line this team needs more athletic players especially at the wing. Draft, FA, or trade I don't care how.

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[arkuo]

A possible quick fix who is currently flying under the radar is Andre Roberson from OKC. He will be UFA this summer and might just cost the MLE. His three pointer is probably just a bit better than MKG's, but for what he does on the defense end, it makes it bearable. That's an elite on-ball defender. if you get him with just the MLE without spending anything else, then our 2021 budget is intact, which makes it even better. Trading for someone might get you salary back which messes up 2021.

[Mike lorenzo]

A possible quick fix who is currently flying under the radar is Andre Roberson from OKC. He will be UFA this summer and might just cost the MLE. His three pointer is probably just a bit better than MKG's, but for what he does on the defense end, it makes it bearable. That's an elite on-ball defender. if you get him with just the MLE without spending anything else, then our 2021 budget is intact, which makes it even better. Trading for someone might get you salary back which messes up 2021.

Has he played again? He has been unemployed for like 2 years I think ....

[arkuo]

A possible quick fix who is currently flying under the radar is Andre Roberson from OKC. He will be UFA this summer and might just cost the MLE. His three pointer is probably just a bit better than MKG's, but for what he does on the defense end, it makes it bearable. That's an elite on-ball defender. if you get him with just the MLE without spending anything else, then our 2021 budget is intact, which makes it even better. Trading for someone might get you salary back which messes up 2021.

Has he played again? He has been unemployed for like 2 years I think ....

Yup. he's been playing for 3 weeks now. In the bubble with OKC.

[deb]

A possible quick fix who is currently flying under the radar is Andre Roberson from OKC. He will be UFA this summer and might just cost the MLE. His three pointer is probably just a bit better than MKG's, but for what he does on the defense end, it makes it bearable. That's an elite on-ball defender. if you get him with just the MLE without spending anything else, then our 2021 budget is intact, which makes it even better. Trading for someone might get you salary back which messes up 2021.

Has he played again? He has been unemployed for like 2 years I think ....

Yup. he's been playing for 3 weeks now. In the bubble with OKC.

And he's a career .255 3pt and .468 ft shooter. Just abysmal numbers...

[arkuo]

Dallas needs to invest on a defensive guard right now. Let DFS defend the forwards, but looking forward, the West will be filled with high scoring guards that are under 25. Jamal Murray, Donovan Mitchell, add in the likes of Lilard. Luka + Seth Curry + Jalen Brunson will not slow those down. Not one bit.

Jamal Murray and Donovan Mitchell will be perenial playoff names as they share the same timeline with Luka and KP. Both being under 25 still. Ideally you develop Josh Reaves to handle that role, a smaller DFS, paid like a DFS. But if he doesn't pan out, you need to get someone to play like a Patrick Beverly or a Marcus Smart role here.

[Pointguard01]

My fear with DFS as SF is I don't yet trust his 3-point shot. Too many players have had one good season and then reverted back. He was a 31% shooter before then season and very streaky in college. If DFS is really a 37-38% 3-point shooter, than I'm comfortable with him at SF. If he reverts back to sub-35%, then I don't love him at SF.

Also, I actually think he's a much better defender against a big forward(Kawai, Marcus Morris, etc types) vs smaller, quicker players. He's versatile , but it feels he's better there to me.

It really depends on what the other Forward looks like. I think that person has to be a above average to good proven shooter

Long-Term:
Luka/Brunson
Green/
DFS/THJ
Reed/Maxi
KP/WCS

The likeliness we get 2 starters in the backend of the 1st round is so unlikely. Most drafts have 10-15 starters, so we'd have to really nail the draft. Now, the idea that we have 2 shots at a quality starter isn't completely unlikely.

I don't really understand your long-term vs short-term strategy. Is it just that the long-term relies on both rookies succeeding? I don't know why with the long-term strategy, you wouldn't still pursue someone like Josh Richardson (like you do in your shirt-term strategy). Even if Josh Green works out in your secnario, he's going to be 3+ years away from being that player, so you probably want to still pursue Richardson in the meantime.

I'd absolutely offer Brunson, #18 and #31 for Devin Vassell. This 9-man rotation is really solid in the short-term and long-term, with still the opportunity to have some cap flexibility in 2021.

G- Doncic |Wright
G-Hardaway | Curry
F- Vassell |
F-Finney-Smith | Kleber
C- Porzingis | Powell

This might be a year that we can find two eventual starters with our picks because the middle of this draft is supposedly the strength but I do understand your point.

My point on ST vs LT is that we can either use the two picks and develop them or make trades to fit a more win-now strategy.
I used Richardson as an example of someone we could go after as a FA and then trade our picks and Brunson to get Vassell for a strategy that could satisfy both. I personally would like to see us grow organically since KP is only 25 and Luka is about 5 years from entering his prime but if we can somehow land Vassell I think we'd still be growing organically while competing immediately. My biggest fear is that Cuban will trade our picks for a 30+ yo vet.

My concerns on THJ are similar as yours on DFS. THJ seems to be there when we don't need him but not there when we do.
I guess we'll see this week. I do think THJ is an integral part of our potent offense and if I'm not mistaken he is about the same age as Richardson.

But either way I would absolutely love a SL of: Luka/THJ/Vassell/DFS/KP or Luka/Richardson/Vassell/DFS/KP. Not sure we'd have enough cap space but I'd go after Marcus Morris in FA to polish that roster.

I see. Yeah, I agree with you about growing organically. There are so many examples of teams trying to trade for someone who then doesn’t fit in the role. But, when it’s organic from within, you get to see first-hand how they fit before investing assets or money (I’m more ok with investing money via free agency but don’t want to trade assets for someone with a big salary).

I love the idea of having two shots this offseason to find another rotation player (or potential starter if we’re lucky) while still having cap space to add someone in 2021 if we aren’t certain about either of these picks. I’d love to move up for Vassell.

Per the strategy, if you can move Wright, I think you could resign THJ (pending what he costs) and still get Richardson (hes not a max player). That gives us a better team now while still having some youth off the bench to grow into bigger roles.

G Doncic | Brunson
G Richardson | Curry
F Hardaway | (one of the 2020 rookies)
F Finney-Smith | Kleber
C Porzingis | Powell

[arkuo]

Per the strategy, if you can move Wright, I think you could resign THJ (pending what he costs) and still get Richardson (hes not a max player). That gives us a better team now while still having some youth off the bench to grow into bigger roles.

G Doncic | Brunson
G Richardson | Curry
F Hardaway | (one of the 2020 rookies)
F Finney-Smith | Kleber
C Porzingis | Powell

I like this move. I like Richardson. I'm chalking up his poor play to being in that system in Philly where no one seems to know what's going on.

I'd like to believe WCS opts in too with these market conditions. Depending on how much pot he smokes. Finally, I'd like for Carlisle to keep training Josh Reaves to be a guard stopper. He is no different to when DFS first came here undrafted. The skill set is similar so the base that RC has to work on is pretty much the same.

[Teffer10]

Per the strategy, if you can move Wright, I think you could resign THJ (pending what he costs) and still get Richardson (hes not a max player). That gives us a better team now while still having some youth off the bench to grow into bigger roles.

G Doncic | Brunson
G Richardson | Curry
F Hardaway | (one of the 2020 rookies)
F Finney-Smith | Kleber
C Porzingis | Powell

I like this move. I like Richardson. I'm chalking up his poor play to being in that system in Philly where no one seems to know what's going on.

I'd like to believe WCS opts in too with these market conditions. Depending on how much pot he smokes. Finally, I'd like for Carlisle to keep training Josh Reaves to be a guard stopper. He is no different to when DFS first came here undrafted. The skill set is similar so the base that RC has to work on is pretty much the same.

I've been high on Reaves because he has some credentials that could improve our team. He's been around long enough though that you'd think he would have gotten more development time which leads me to believe that he isn't impressing Rick.

I too like the team that PG01 suggests but I'd like to add a bigger PF who can defend.
I still think Morris should be a target if we can't acquire Richardson. Luka/THJ/DFS/Morris/KP is something I could live with next season assuming we keep our picks and draft well. I think Morris would be the perfect guy to play next to KP as long as we don't have to vastly overpay for him.