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Re: Heat want to pair Giannis and Oladipo 

Post#101 » by BBallFreak » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:49 pm

pipfan wrote:I proposed a deal where Miami sends Butler to GS, GS sends their top 3 pick to Miami, and the Minny pick to Chic, along with Wiggins and Looney (salary). Chi sends Porter Jr to Miami, along with something else (not sure how to balance the value)

GS gets a perfect win-now SF in Butler, and dumps Wiggins' deal
Chi gets a nice pick, and adds a SF who plays everyday. I highly doubt our chances in 2021 FA. With the new cap situation coming, Wiggins' deal becomes worse-but he does produce

Miami ends up with a core of Dunn, Herro and Bam, plus let's say Ball in this draft. They would then have 2 max FA spots in the summer of 2021. Porter might help them win games in 2020-21 (his contract year) since I know Riley doesn't want to tank

That's just not Miami. You know us better than that. When have we ever traded a star player for a draft pick? Come on. That doesn't work with our culture. You should know the team before proposing deals...
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Re: Heat want to pair Giannis and Oladipo 

Post#102 » by The Warrior » Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:51 am

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Sure, but those relationships are more on a professional level. He doesn't have that with Masai but it's not like he's some bum and with his close personal relationship with Giannis and his family, which they apparently formed prior to the NBA, that's a pretty strong connection. Stronger than any those teams you mentioned except for Milwaukee. He's not going to leave Milwaukee because of his former workout companion or Thon Maker lol.

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Has Antetokounmpo had a relationship with Ujiri that is more than sporadic? He has had daily contact with the people I mentioned. Heck, he has spent more time with Larry Drew and Taylor Jenkins than he has with Ujiri. Most of what has been reported in the media about any relationship with Ujiri has been vague and specious. Example - it has been reported that Ujiri helped Antetokounmpo's family emigrate from Nigeria to Greece. Does it seem reasonable that a college basketball player (Ujiri at the time) would be involved in any way with the emigration of a Nigerian family to Greece (before Giannis was born) with no notable connection to Ujiri or basketball? Example - it has been reported that Ujiri helped Antetokounmpo get his Greek citizenship to allow his entry into the United States. Does it seem reasonable that an NBA front office executive (Ujiri) would have more influence with Greece and the U.S. than a three term U.S. Senator (Bucks owner Herb Kohl)? I don't know of anything that constitutes Ujiri having a "close personal relationship" with Antetokounmpo, much less with his family.


Would love to get some concrete answers on this questions
Okay yes you two clearly know more on the situation and about Giannis. I have no answers. You're 100 percent correct. He's gonna leave Milwaukee for Thon Maker in Detroit because he referred to him as a brother. White flag waved.

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Re: Heat want to pair Giannis and Oladipo 

Post#103 » by goodboy » Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:40 am

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People have said this in the summer of 2010 too iirc

Are Victor and Giannis friends who have announced they want to play together like Dwyane and LeBron?

They will soon :)
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Re: Heat want to pair Giannis and Oladipo 

Post#104 » by trwi7 » Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:16 am

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Has Antetokounmpo had a relationship with Ujiri that is more than sporadic? He has had daily contact with the people I mentioned. Heck, he has spent more time with Larry Drew and Taylor Jenkins than he has with Ujiri. Most of what has been reported in the media about any relationship with Ujiri has been vague and specious. Example - it has been reported that Ujiri helped Antetokounmpo's family emigrate from Nigeria to Greece. Does it seem reasonable that a college basketball player (Ujiri at the time) would be involved in any way with the emigration of a Nigerian family to Greece (before Giannis was born) with no notable connection to Ujiri or basketball? Example - it has been reported that Ujiri helped Antetokounmpo get his Greek citizenship to allow his entry into the United States. Does it seem reasonable that an NBA front office executive (Ujiri) would have more influence with Greece and the U.S. than a three term U.S. Senator (Bucks owner Herb Kohl)? I don't know of anything that constitutes Ujiri having a "close personal relationship" with Antetokounmpo, much less with his family.


Would love to get some concrete answers on this questions
Okay yes you two clearly know more on the situation and about Giannis. I have no answers. You're 100 percent correct. He's gonna leave Milwaukee for Thon Maker in Detroit because he referred to him as a brother. White flag waved.

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You could just answer about this supposedly amazing relationship that Ujiri has with Giannis and his family. Oh, they don't have one?
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Re: Heat want to pair Giannis and Oladipo 

Post#105 » by SFour » Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:22 am

Hoopz Afrik wrote:All my Yoruba bros are chomping at the bit.....I doubt this becomes a thing but the Nigerian in me is here for it.

Masai Ujiri and Giannis have a strong connection based on some of the reports I've read so if anything, we may see a Giannis and Pascal duo (Naija and Cameroon are neighbors too).


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Re: Heat want to pair Giannis and Oladipo 

Post#106 » by Roco14 » Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:44 am

trwi7 wrote:
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greg4012 wrote:
Would love to get some concrete answers on this questions
Okay yes you two clearly know more on the situation and about Giannis. I have no answers. You're 100 percent correct. He's gonna leave Milwaukee for Thon Maker in Detroit because he referred to him as a brother. White flag waved.

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You could just answer about this supposedly amazing relationship that Ujiri has with Giannis and his family. Oh, they don't have one?


http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=masai+and+giannis+relationship
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Re: Heat want to pair Giannis and Oladipo 

Post#107 » by The Warrior » Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:47 am

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greg4012 wrote:
Would love to get some concrete answers on this questions
Okay yes you two clearly know more on the situation and about Giannis. I have no answers. You're 100 percent correct. He's gonna leave Milwaukee for Thon Maker in Detroit because he referred to him as a brother. White flag waved.

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You could just answer about this supposedly amazing relationship that Ujiri has with Giannis and his family. Oh, they don't have one?


Nah don't feel like it.

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Re: Heat want to pair Giannis and Oladipo 

Post#108 » by trwi7 » Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:51 am

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trwi7 wrote:
The Warrior wrote:Okay yes you two clearly know more on the situation and about Giannis. I have no answers. You're 100 percent correct. He's gonna leave Milwaukee for Thon Maker in Detroit because he referred to him as a brother. White flag waved.

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You could just answer about this supposedly amazing relationship that Ujiri has with Giannis and his family. Oh, they don't have one?


http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=masai+and+giannis+relationship


Yes, now all you have to do is believe that a 20 or 21 year old Masai Ujiri, while playing professional basketball in England somehow managed to help a random Nigerian couple that had no connection to his family emigrate to Greece knowing that one day he would be the GM of an NBA team and that one of the kids (who weren't even born yet!) would go on to become an NBA MVP. Guys on Maury come up with more plausible stories on why they're not the father.
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Re: Heat want to pair Giannis and Oladipo 

Post#109 » by LAKESHOW » Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:27 am

Sorry kids, once he was able to see his brother and his last name on a LAKER jersey, that sealed the deal
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Post#110 » by J_T » Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:20 am

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:Does Giannis really want to team up with a guy who's quad muscle might tear off the bone again? I'm not so sure.

If Giannis leaves, he's going to Toronto. 99.9999% sure of it.

Damn, I like those odds. So that's million to one, right. Let's say I bet $1. So if he leaves and he doesn't go to Toronto, you owe me one million. And if he does go to Toronto, I owe you 1$. Would you take that? If not, why bother with all those nines?

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Re: Heat want to pair Giannis and Oladipo 

Post#111 » by Jstock12 » Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:25 am

LAKESHOW wrote:Sorry kids, once he was able to see his brother and his last name on a LAKER jersey, that sealed the deal


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Re: Heat want to pair Giannis and Oladipo 

Post#112 » by The Warrior » Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:24 pm

trwi7 wrote:
Roco14 wrote:
trwi7 wrote:
You could just answer about this supposedly amazing relationship that Ujiri has with Giannis and his family. Oh, they don't have one?


http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=masai+and+giannis+relationship


Yes, now all you have to do is believe that a 20 or 21 year old Masai Ujiri, while playing professional basketball in England somehow managed to help a random Nigerian couple that had no connection to his family emigrate to Greece knowing that one day he would be the GM of an NBA team and that one of the kids (who weren't even born yet!) would go on to become an NBA MVP. Guys on Maury come up with more plausible stories on why they're not the father.


Masai is a philanthropist, so it doesn't exactly seem far fetched that he would help them migrate, and who's to say that the family he was helping out was even random? Anyway, my understanding is not that he helped them migrate, but rather that he helped them with their Greek citizenship.

Look, no one is claiming to know the exact extent of Giannis and Masai's relationship, but there is definitely a strong connection there when you have Bucks reporters asking Giannis, "you're quite close with Masai, but I also know you're a competitor" or "so how do you balance that, someone you care about who's been there for you your entire career, and then he's kind of on the other side in a lot of ways now". I would think that implies the media know of a connection and you are simply trying to downplay it or you're in fact ignorant on the situation.

I mean Giannis himself said, "Masai helped me and my family during the years I've been in the league, but he's an unbelievable guy, great GM, and built a great team. After the series is over, if he wants to go and golf or do something, we can definitely do that". Masai has been careful when talking about Giannis and has not revealed much about their relationship, but with what Giannis said, I think we can deduce that there is a personal connection of some sort and that Masai at the very least helped him and his family ever since Giannis has been in the league. What came before that is not fully clear, but yes they do appear to in fact have a very good relationship.

I do think it's silly that you'll quickly dismiss Masai and Toronto from the equation if he leaves Milwaukee, but you didn't hesitate to mention LA citing Jason Kidd is an assistant coach there and was his former coach as your validation. If he does go to LA, I can tell you that it won't be because of Kidd. If he goes to Detroit, it won't be because he once referred to Thon Maker as his brother, or because his former workout companion is now there, and even though he may have a close relationship with John Hammond, the Magic aren't building the foundation of a winner at the moment.

Yeah let's reference the insignificant connections and ignore his relationship and connection with Masai and the other factors that Toronto will leverage in their bid for Giannis such as the winning culture established from top to bottom in the organization with great supporting players and budding stars, a great head coach, and cap space.

tl;dr: Yes, Masai does have a pretty amazing relationship with Giannis and his family.
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Post#113 » by Profound23 » Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:42 pm

Would love to see Siakam and Giannis pair up......in Milwaukee.
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Re: Heat want to pair Giannis and Oladipo 

Post#114 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:09 pm

J_T wrote:
CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:Does Giannis really want to team up with a guy who's quad muscle might tear off the bone again? I'm not so sure.

If Giannis leaves, he's going to Toronto. 99.9999% sure of it.

Damn, I like those odds. So that's million to one, right. Let's say I bet $1. So if he leaves and he doesn't go to Toronto, you owe me one million. And if he does go to Toronto, I owe you 1$. Would you take that? If not, why bother with all those nines?

The "certainty" on sport forums is legendary. No wonder sports betting is so profitable for the bookies.


I'd take your bet, but I don't have a million dollars to pay you in case I'm wrong. How about another type of bet? Loser isn't allowed to slander the winner's choice of team (or player) on the GB for a full NBA season.

If Giannis leaves Milwaukee and he goes to Toronto, I win. If Giannis leaves Milwaukee and he goes to a team that isn't Toronto, you win the bet.

Name your team (or player) that we won't be allowed to talk negatively about on the GB. My choice - the Celtics.
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Re: Heat want to pair Giannis and Oladipo 

Post#115 » by skones » Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:16 pm

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Masai is a philanthropist, so it doesn't exactly seem far fetched that he would help them migrate, and who's to say that the family he was helping out was even random? Anyway, my understanding is not that he helped them migrate, but rather that he helped them with their Greek citizenship.

Look, no one is claiming to know the exact extent of Giannis and Masai's relationship, but there is definitely a strong connection there when you have Bucks reporters asking Giannis, "you're quite close with Masai, but I also know you're a competitor" or "so how do you balance that, someone you care about who's been there for you your entire career, and then he's kind of on the other side in a lot of ways now". I would think that implies the media know of a connection and you are simply trying to downplay it or you're in fact ignorant on the situation.

I mean Giannis himself said, "Masai helped me and my family during the years I've been in the league, but he's an unbelievable guy, great GM, and built a great team. After the series is over, if he wants to go and golf or do something, we can definitely do that". Masai has been careful when talking about Giannis and has not revealed much about their relationship, but with what Giannis said, I think we can deduce that there is a personal connection of some sort and that Masai at the very least helped him and his family ever since Giannis has been in the league. What came before that is not fully clear, but yes they do appear to in fact have a very good relationship.

I do think it's silly that you'll quickly dismiss Masai and Toronto from the equation if he leaves Milwaukee, but you didn't hesitate to mention LA citing Jason Kidd is an assistant coach there and was his former coach as your validation. If he does go to LA, I can tell you that it won't be because of Kidd. If he goes to Detroit, it won't be because he once referred to Thon Maker as his brother, or because his former workout companion is now there, and even though he may have a close relationship with John Hammond, the Magic aren't building the foundation of a winner at the moment.

Yeah let's reference the insignificant connections and ignore his relationship and connection with Masai and the other factors that Toronto will leverage in their bid for Giannis such as the winning culture established from top to bottom in the organization with great supporting players and budding stars, a great head coach, and cap space.

tl;dr: Yes, Masai does have a pretty amazing relationship with Giannis and his family.


Man wake up. He was playing college ball at Bismarck **** State. He wasn't a philanthropist. The fact that you're sitting there saying "it's not far fetched" only demonstrates the lengths you're willing to go to make this fit into your narrative. The timeline doesn't make any sense.

Second, that wasn't a "Bucks reporter asking that question," and it doesn't take rocket science to look at it and see that it is a leading question. You're making this enormous stretch from a "helped me and my family" to this personal connection and very good relationship. Toronto fans want to believe that Masai is some sort of father figure and guiding hand to Giannis which is absolutely laughable. You want to know the context of the quote you're using? Giannis explicitly stated that "you guys will run with it" before offering up anything. That's athlete speak for, I'm going to say some words that look nice but not say anything at all. This literally all originated from the absolutely bogus quote from this article.

https://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/2018/01/01/greek-star-antetokoumpos-reach-extends-to-toronto.html

Ujiri helped the family emigrate from Nigeria to Greece to start the 23-year-old on his path to NBA greatness


No. That didn't happen.
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Re: Heat want to pair Giannis and Oladipo 

Post#116 » by Je K » Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:34 pm

trwi7 wrote:
Roco14 wrote:
trwi7 wrote:
You could just answer about this supposedly amazing relationship that Ujiri has with Giannis and his family. Oh, they don't have one?


http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=masai+and+giannis+relationship


Yes, now all you have to do is believe that a 20 or 21 year old Masai Ujiri, while playing professional basketball in England somehow managed to help a random Nigerian couple that had no connection to his family emigrate to Greece knowing that one day he would be the GM of an NBA team and that one of the kids (who weren't even born yet!) would go on to become an NBA MVP. Guys on Maury come up with more plausible stories on why they're not the father.

This is my favorite story that Raptors fans tell. I'm not even going to deny that Masai and Giannis's families are close right now. But this story is so ridiculously far-fetched and simply impossible that it makes me laugh every time I see it.
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Post#117 » by The Warrior » Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:24 pm

skones wrote:
The Warrior wrote:
Masai is a philanthropist, so it doesn't exactly seem far fetched that he would help them migrate, and who's to say that the family he was helping out was even random? Anyway, my understanding is not that he helped them migrate, but rather that he helped them with their Greek citizenship.

Look, no one is claiming to know the exact extent of Giannis and Masai's relationship, but there is definitely a strong connection there when you have Bucks reporters asking Giannis, "you're quite close with Masai, but I also know you're a competitor" or "so how do you balance that, someone you care about who's been there for you your entire career, and then he's kind of on the other side in a lot of ways now". I would think that implies the media know of a connection and you are simply trying to downplay it or you're in fact ignorant on the situation.

I mean Giannis himself said, "Masai helped me and my family during the years I've been in the league, but he's an unbelievable guy, great GM, and built a great team. After the series is over, if he wants to go and golf or do something, we can definitely do that". Masai has been careful when talking about Giannis and has not revealed much about their relationship, but with what Giannis said, I think we can deduce that there is a personal connection of some sort and that Masai at the very least helped him and his family ever since Giannis has been in the league. What came before that is not fully clear, but yes they do appear to in fact have a very good relationship.

I do think it's silly that you'll quickly dismiss Masai and Toronto from the equation if he leaves Milwaukee, but you didn't hesitate to mention LA citing Jason Kidd is an assistant coach there and was his former coach as your validation. If he does go to LA, I can tell you that it won't be because of Kidd. If he goes to Detroit, it won't be because he once referred to Thon Maker as his brother, or because his former workout companion is now there, and even though he may have a close relationship with John Hammond, the Magic aren't building the foundation of a winner at the moment.

Yeah let's reference the insignificant connections and ignore his relationship and connection with Masai and the other factors that Toronto will leverage in their bid for Giannis such as the winning culture established from top to bottom in the organization with great supporting players and budding stars, a great head coach, and cap space.

tl;dr: Yes, Masai does have a pretty amazing relationship with Giannis and his family.


Man wake up. He was playing college ball at Bismarck **** State. He wasn't a philanthropist. The fact that you're sitting there saying "it's not far fetched" only demonstrates the lengths you're willing to go to make this fit into your narrative. The timeline doesn't make any sense.

Second, that wasn't a "Bucks reporter asking that question," and it doesn't take rocket science to look at it and see that it is a leading question. You're making this enormous stretch from a "helped me and my family" to this personal connection and very good relationship. Toronto fans want to believe that Masai is some sort of father figure and guiding hand to Giannis which is absolutely laughable. You want to know the context of the quote you're using? Giannis explicitly stated that "you guys will run with it" before offering up anything. That's athlete speak for, I'm going to say some words that look nice but not say anything at all. This literally all originated from the absolutely bogus quote from this article.

https://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/2018/01/01/greek-star-antetokoumpos-reach-extends-to-toronto.html

Ujiri helped the family emigrate from Nigeria to Greece to start the 23-year-old on his path to NBA greatness


No. That didn't happen.


I never said he did. I'm simply implying it's not far fetched given that this is who Masai is. I never claimed it as the truth, so I'm sorry that your reading comprehension isn't your strongest quality. What I did claim is that he helped his family with their Greek citizenship, but yeah you're being a little overly defensive. There's no claim on my part that he's going to leave Milwaukee or that he looks at Masai as a father figure. A Bucks reporter or whatever affiliation they have, I fail to see that as a leading question and it would seem otherwise random for a reporter to imply a close relationship if one isn't there.

The "you guys will run with it" part was after he was asked about Masai and he playfully said "who's that" and then followed it up with "I'm not gonna say I don't care about Masai because you guys would twist it. I do care about Masai, take that!". He then followed it up with the comment I referenced earlier "Masai helped me and my family during the years I've been in the league, but he's an unbelievable guy, great GM, and built a great team. After the series is over, if he wants to go and golf or do something, we can definitely do that".

That was meant to demonstrate there is a pretty good relationship between him and Masai. I can't say exactly how close they are but reading between the lines, it seems he is close to Masai at least to some extent, but great job moving around the chess pieces with the quotes to fit your own narrative.
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Post#118 » by Roco14 » Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:27 pm

skones wrote:
The Warrior wrote:
Masai is a philanthropist, so it doesn't exactly seem far fetched that he would help them migrate, and who's to say that the family he was helping out was even random? Anyway, my understanding is not that he helped them migrate, but rather that he helped them with their Greek citizenship.

Look, no one is claiming to know the exact extent of Giannis and Masai's relationship, but there is definitely a strong connection there when you have Bucks reporters asking Giannis, "you're quite close with Masai, but I also know you're a competitor" or "so how do you balance that, someone you care about who's been there for you your entire career, and then he's kind of on the other side in a lot of ways now". I would think that implies the media know of a connection and you are simply trying to downplay it or you're in fact ignorant on the situation.

I mean Giannis himself said, "Masai helped me and my family during the years I've been in the league, but he's an unbelievable guy, great GM, and built a great team. After the series is over, if he wants to go and golf or do something, we can definitely do that". Masai has been careful when talking about Giannis and has not revealed much about their relationship, but with what Giannis said, I think we can deduce that there is a personal connection of some sort and that Masai at the very least helped him and his family ever since Giannis has been in the league. What came before that is not fully clear, but yes they do appear to in fact have a very good relationship.

I do think it's silly that you'll quickly dismiss Masai and Toronto from the equation if he leaves Milwaukee, but you didn't hesitate to mention LA citing Jason Kidd is an assistant coach there and was his former coach as your validation. If he does go to LA, I can tell you that it won't be because of Kidd. If he goes to Detroit, it won't be because he once referred to Thon Maker as his brother, or because his former workout companion is now there, and even though he may have a close relationship with John Hammond, the Magic aren't building the foundation of a winner at the moment.

Yeah let's reference the insignificant connections and ignore his relationship and connection with Masai and the other factors that Toronto will leverage in their bid for Giannis such as the winning culture established from top to bottom in the organization with great supporting players and budding stars, a great head coach, and cap space.

tl;dr: Yes, Masai does have a pretty amazing relationship with Giannis and his family.


Man wake up. He was playing college ball at Bismarck **** State. He wasn't a philanthropist. The fact that you're sitting there saying "it's not far fetched" only demonstrates the lengths you're willing to go to make this fit into your narrative. The timeline doesn't make any sense.

Second, that wasn't a "Bucks reporter asking that question," and it doesn't take rocket science to look at it and see that it is a leading question. You're making this enormous stretch from a "helped me and my family" to this personal connection and very good relationship. Toronto fans want to believe that Masai is some sort of father figure and guiding hand to Giannis which is absolutely laughable. You want to know the context of the quote you're using? Giannis explicitly stated that "you guys will run with it" before offering up anything. That's athlete speak for, I'm going to say some words that look nice but not say anything at all. This literally all originated from the absolutely bogus quote from this article.

https://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/2018/01/01/greek-star-antetokoumpos-reach-extends-to-toronto.html

Ujiri helped the family emigrate from Nigeria to Greece to start the 23-year-old on his path to NBA greatness


No. That didn't happen.


Obviously that couldn't have happened. The writer clearly misunderstood the rumour, which was that Masai allegedly aided Giannis' family get Greek CITIZENSHIP in 2013. None of us know if it's true or not, but it's a rumour that's been circulating even before Giannis was a star. And sometimes, where there's smoke, there's fire.
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Re: Heat want to pair Giannis and Oladipo 

Post#119 » by skones » Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:55 pm

The Warrior wrote:
I never said he did. I'm simply implying it's not far fetched given that this is who Masai is. I never claimed it as the truth, so I'm sorry that your reading comprehension isn't your strongest quality.


My reading comprehension isn't the problem if you don't think it's far fetched that a college basketball player in Bismarck North Dakota is helping a random couple emigrate from Nigeria to Greece.
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Post#120 » by skones » Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:02 pm

Roco14 wrote:

Obviously that couldn't have happened. The writer clearly misunderstood the rumour, which was that Masai allegedly aided Giannis' family get Greek CITIZENSHIP in 2013. None of us know if it's true or not, but it's a rumour that's been circulating even before Giannis was a star. And sometimes, where there's smoke, there's fire.


Thank you.

With that being said, it wasn't a rumor that was circulating even before Giannis was a star. The first mention of it came in 2017.

https://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/2017/04/13/raptors-tried-to-trade-into-draft-for-greek-freak.html

Ujiri, one of the most fervent supporters of African basketball players there is, helped the process along through advice and connections, finally seeing Antetokounmpo get his Greek papers.


And again, there was also a US Senator who had his men on it given the personal interest he had in the player, yet for whatever reason, some hold the belief that it was Masai Ujiri doing all of this masterful work.

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