Build a Franchise (Season 4) Draft edition. The Celtics have been SKIPPED. Houston is on the clock until 12AM

[bringbackhoffa]

I mean... you knew what you did the moment you did it.

[mpharris36]

Trying to answer this but not easy on my phone at work...give me a couple hours until I’m home to respond to this.

My two cents, just make it simple. You miss your pick, the penalty is missing out on the potential player you wanted. I think this is opening up a very small can of worms.

agreed you miss out on the player you wanted but you still have to pay them your allotted draft slot. I think that is the simpliest easiest way and I don't think anyone in the league would have an issue with that.

[mpharris36]

It sounds to me like if a team doesn't make its pick, the teams behind them have the option to either move up to the higher pick (and salary) slot or wait it out and then pick when the original team's choice is made for them.

The teams behind the lagging team have the benefit of choice. That seems reasonable.

so you technically have to risk a team behind you who may have extra money jusping 2 teams who may be targeting the same player as you pick ahead of you just because you want to pick in you slot? That seems a bit crazy to me.

I don't think that makes any sense.

Its should be this simple. If you get skipped you have every right to miss your pick but when you pick you drafted player goes into that slot. Its the easiest and most fair way to do it.

[Manhattan Project]

I mean... you knew what you did the moment you did it.

The Hoffa Rule.
The Hoffa draft slot manipulation rule.

[HEZI]

Y'all really in shambles over $5?

[Capn'O]

It sounds to me like if a team doesn't make its pick, the teams behind them have the option to either move up to the higher pick (and salary) slot or wait it out and then pick when the original team's choice is made for them.

The teams behind the lagging team have the benefit of choice. That seems reasonable.

so you technically have to risk a team behind you who may have extra money jusping 2 teams who may be targeting the same player as you pick ahead of you just because you want to pick in you slot? That seems a bit crazy to me.

I don't think that makes any sense.

Its should be this simple. If you get skipped you have every right to miss your pick but when you pick you drafted player goes into that slot. Its the easiest and most fair way to do it.

Here's how to play it.

Player A skips their pick. You are Player B and you want to keep your slot.

You send a PM to Bish.

My main dude Bish,

I would like to keep my draft slot regardless of what Players A, C, and D do. Here is my ranked choice:

1. Amarilla
2. Rosado

And Big Papa Bish takes care of you. If Player C picks then your pick comes right after it. And so on. You don't need to worry about it anymore. Your pick is in at your slot.

You could also pick at the higher slot. I don't see anything but benefit if you play it correctly.

[Context]

Y'all really in shambles over $5?

you forgot the extension dollars as well it adds up...

[Context]

It sounds to me like if a team doesn't make its pick, the teams behind them have the option to either move up to the higher pick (and salary) slot or wait it out and then pick when the original team's choice is made for them.

The teams behind the lagging team have the benefit of choice. That seems reasonable.

so you technically have to risk a team behind you who may have extra money jusping 2 teams who may be targeting the same player as you pick ahead of you just because you want to pick in you slot? That seems a bit crazy to me.

I don't think that makes any sense.

Its should be this simple. If you get skipped you have every right to miss your pick but when you pick you drafted player goes into that slot. Its the easiest and most fair way to do it.

Here's how to play it.

Player A skips their pick. You are Player B and you want to keep your slot.

You send a PM to Bish.

My main dude Bish,

I would like to keep my draft slot regardless of what Players A, C, and D do. Here is my ranked choice:

1. Amarilla
2. Rosado

And Big Papa Bish takes care of you.

You could also pick second at the higher slot. I don't see anything but benefit if you play it correctly.

thats it!!!! i am no longer drafting Blank...Rosado sounds like a winner you sold me Cap

[HEZI]

Y'all really in shambles over $5?

you forgot the extension dollars as well it adds up...

Still a small price to pay for an extra prospect dropping down into your lap.

[mpharris36]

Y'all really in shambles over $5?

you know that isn't the point. One of the most important pieces of BAF is cap management. But I shouldn't have to literally sit in front of my computer even during my time slot even if I'm ready to pick to ensure I won't go over the cap. I could literally have to wait 6 hours potentially if people keep denying wanting to move up and pick. I don't think that is fair.

What seems simple is that your draft slot is tied with a salary. If you miss that pick, whenever you make it the player goes into that draft slot salary. Why would anyone have any issues with that? That seems like the easiest solution.

[Deeeez Knicks]

I mean... you knew what you did the moment you did it.

The Hoffa Rule.
The Hoffa draft slot manipulation rule.

Hoffa!

[HEZI]

Y'all really in shambles over $5?

you know that isn't the point. One of the most important pieces of BAF is cap management. But I shouldn't have to literally sit in front of my computer even during my time slot even if I'm ready to pick to ensure I won't go over the cap. I could literally have to wait 6 hours potentially if people keep denying wanting to move up and pick. I don't think that is fair.

What seems simple is that your draft slot is tied with a salary. If you miss that pick, whenever you make it the player goes into that draft slot salary. Why would anyone have any issues with that? That seems like the easiest solution.

It's really not that big of a deal especially considering we are talking about high lotto picks. Guys never miss high picks. As you move down the draft the difference becomes like a buck. No rule change necessary for this imo

[3toheadmelo]

If somebody misses a pick unintentionallly cause something came up in their lives... then I think the rule isn't much of a problem. When it comes to blatantly missing picks just to pay a cheaper salary then yeah it's an issue. Thankfully it hasn't happened yet which is why we never had this problem.. but of course Hoffa may want to break the tradition for attention.

[Context]

Y'all really in shambles over $5?

you know that isn't the point. One of the most important pieces of BAF is cap management. But I shouldn't have to literally sit in front of my computer even during my time slot even if I'm ready to pick to ensure I won't go over the cap. I could literally have to wait 6 hours potentially if people keep denying wanting to move up and pick. I don't think that is fair.

What seems simple is that your draft slot is tied with a salary. If you miss that pick, whenever you make it the player goes into that draft slot salary. Why would anyone have any issues with that? That seems like the easiest solution.

Bish, if you think I give you a hard time in trades sometime...look no further than above- this is how i feel last year and imagine if you had no idea about the rule

love you Bish

[Smash3]

John Wall or Kyle Lowry? Sabonis or LaMarcus?

[mpharris36]

It sounds to me like if a team doesn't make its pick, the teams behind them have the option to either move up to the higher pick (and salary) slot or wait it out and then pick when the original team's choice is made for them.

The teams behind the lagging team have the benefit of choice. That seems reasonable.

so you technically have to risk a team behind you who may have extra money jusping 2 teams who may be targeting the same player as you pick ahead of you just because you want to pick in you slot? That seems a bit crazy to me.

I don't think that makes any sense.

Its should be this simple. If you get skipped you have every right to miss your pick but when you pick you drafted player goes into that slot. Its the easiest and most fair way to do it.

Here's how to play it.

Player A skips their pick. You are Player B and you want to keep your slot.

You send a PM to Bish.

My main dude Bish,

I would like to keep my draft slot regardless of what Players A, C, and D do. Here is my ranked choice:

1. Amarilla
2. Rosado

And Big Papa Bish takes care of you. If Player C picks then your pick comes right after it. And so on. You don't need to worry about it anymore. Your pick is in at your slot.

You could also pick second at the higher slot. I don't see anything but benefit if you play it correctly.

but your still not solving the issue. The team above me might have completely different needs then the team below me. At that point why even have draft slots then? Sometimes you don't have 3 or 4 guys you want at that spot you have only 1 and then a trade out option. My point is no team should be held hostage because a team is sitting on there pick.

I don't see why the solution of if you miss your pick you still have to pick in that spot with that $ slot. Why would anyone have an issue with that amendment. The team missing there pick is the only one penalized which should be the case.

Everything else seems like extra nonsense because a team could sit on there pick and now I would have to take into consideration who is behind me who has totally different needs

[Capn'O]

thats it!!!! i am no longer drafting Blank...Rosado sounds like a winner you sold me Cap

Rosado's delicate, textbook form on his jumper brings a tear to my eye.

[Context]

If somebody misses a pick unintentionallly cause something came up in their lives... then I think the rule isn't much of a problem. When it comes to blatantly missing picks just to pay a cheaper salary then yeah it's an issue. Thankfully it hasn't happened yet which is why we never had this problem.. but of course Hoffa may want to break the tradition for attention.

unfortunately theres no way to tell...and we have some clever gms here- look, this is what goes on in the real world of competition-
loopholes, work arounds etc...but we can fix this...

[Smash3]

thats it!!!! i am no longer drafting Blank...Rosado sounds like a winner you sold me Cap

Rosado's delicate, textbook form on his jumper brings a tear to my eye.

Who you got me signing Cap? Lowry or Wall?

[Capn'O]

so you technically have to risk a team behind you who may have extra money jusping 2 teams who may be targeting the same player as you pick ahead of you just because you want to pick in you slot? That seems a bit crazy to me.

I don't think that makes any sense.

Its should be this simple. If you get skipped you have every right to miss your pick but when you pick you drafted player goes into that slot. Its the easiest and most fair way to do it.

Here's how to play it.

Player A skips their pick. You are Player B and you want to keep your slot.

You send a PM to Bish.

My main dude Bish,

I would like to keep my draft slot regardless of what Players A, C, and D do. Here is my ranked choice:

1. Amarilla
2. Rosado

And Big Papa Bish takes care of you. If Player C picks then your pick comes right after it. And so on. You don't need to worry about it anymore. Your pick is in at your slot.

You could also pick second at the higher slot. I don't see anything but benefit if you play it correctly.

but your still not solving the issue. The team above me might have completely different needs then the team below me. At that point why even have draft slots then? Sometimes you don't have 3 or 4 guys you want at that spot you have only 1 and then a trade out option. My point is no team should be held hostage because a team is sitting on there pick.

I don't see why the solution of if you miss your pick you still have to pick in that spot with that $ slot. Why would anyone have an issue with that amendment. The team missing there pick is the only one penalized which should be the case.

Everything else seems like extra nonsense because a team could sit on there pick and now I would have to take into consideration who is behind me who has totally different needs

Player C should get their priorities straight and go BPA, which is clearly Amarilla.

In seriousness, they could also pick differently in a way that benefits you. That's always the thing about not being Player A in a draft. But YOU, Player B, still get the right of first refusal if Player A balks.