Alperen Şengün

GSWFan1994 · Post #101 » by **GSWFan1994** » Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:26 pm

He reminds me of Pau Gasol.

MemphisX · Post #102 » by **MemphisX** » Fri Apr 30, 2021 1:17 am

I think it depends on how seriously he takes his conditioning. Hard to know what kind of work he is willing to put in to tighten up his body and squeeze out all the athleticism it has. Jokic went to god level due to his fitness level being improved.

UcanUwill · Post #103 » by **UcanUwill** » Sat May 1, 2021 11:27 am

Alperen Şengün's Current Turkish league numbers :

19.4 ppg (2nd. in the league) (63.8 FG% : 19.0 3PT%)
70.2 TS% (10th. in the league)
6.5 FTA. (2nd. in the league) (81.2 FT%)

31.9 PER (1st. in the league)
135.1 ORtg (4th. highest in the league)

1.6 bpg (2nd. in the league)
5.8 blk% (3rd. in the league)
9.4 rpg (2nd. in the league)
22.1 TRB% (4th. in the league)

105.2 DRtg (26. lowest in the league)
29.9 eDif (3rd. in the league)

ekpeudoh · Post #104 » by **ekpeudoh** » Sat May 1, 2021 3:27 pm

I am at turkish basketball fan, i have seen some comments, his floor iş jerebko, at minimum this is unfair.

His floor iş 15-20 minutes offensive talent minimum.

At best he will be next Collins.

GSWFan1994 · Post #105 » by **GSWFan1994** » Sat May 1, 2021 3:44 pm

UcanUwill wrote:Alperen Şengün's Current Turkish league numbers :

19.4 ppg (2nd. in the league) (63.8 FG% : 19.0 3PT%)
70.2 TS% (10th. in the league)
6.5 FTA. (2nd. in the league) (81.2 FT%)

31.9 PER (1st. in the league)
135.1 ORtg (4th. highest in the league)

1.6 bpg (2nd. in the league)
5.8 blk% (3rd. in the league)
9.4 rpg (2nd. in the league)
22.1 TRB% (4th. in the league)

105.2 DRtg (26. lowest in the league)
29.9 eDif (3rd. in the league)

Is he the runner-up for the MVP? Based on this numbers, he should be.

Mickey8 · Post #106 » by **Mickey8** » Sat May 1, 2021 5:11 pm

19% thee point shooting is not screaming great , he will need to improve that because he will lose lots of his advantages, being undersized for a center in NBA.

Dn4sty · Post #107 » by **Dn4sty** » Sun May 2, 2021 4:26 am

How tall is he? I’ve seen 6-11, but I’ve also seen some say he’s only 6-9

Mickey8 · Post #108 » by **Mickey8** » Sun May 2, 2021 5:09 am

There is no way he's 6"11 :roll:

Post #109 » by **Curtis Lemansky** » Sun May 2, 2021 11:02 am

UcanUwill wrote:Alperen Şengün's Current Turkish league numbers :

19.4 ppg (2nd. in the league) (63.8 FG% : 19.0 3PT%)
70.2 TS% (10th. in the league)
6.5 FTA. (2nd. in the league) (81.2 FT%)

31.9 PER (1st. in the league)
135.1 ORtg (4th. highest in the league)

1.6 bpg (2nd. in the league)
5.8 blk% (3rd. in the league)
9.4 rpg (2nd. in the league)
22.1 TRB% (4th. in the league)

105.2 DRtg (26. lowest in the league)
29.9 eDif (3rd. in the league)

10th in steals too with 1.4 spg (gives you an idea about his anticipation)

EvanZ · Post #110 » by **EvanZ** » Sun May 2, 2021 1:27 pm

GSWFan1994 wrote:He reminds me of Pau Gasol.

Gasol is huge. He's 7'1" with like a 7'5" ws.

Post #111 » by **Ruzious** » Mon May 3, 2021 9:14 am

Mickey8 wrote:There is no way he's 6"11

With shoes, I think he's somewhere between 6'10 and 6'11 - probably closer to 6'11.

He's made 18 of 19 FS's his last 2 games and 9 of 10 FT's. Only played 19 minutes in the last game because it was a blowout win - still blocked 4 shots and had 9 rebounds and 4 assists.

Post #112 » by **Ruzious** » Mon May 3, 2021 9:22 am

DIO wrote:

Watch on YouTube

He's taking a hop step on most of his 3's - that's work in process, lol.

Mickey8 · Post #113 » by **Mickey8** » Mon May 3, 2021 11:40 am

Ruzious wrote:
Mickey8 wrote:There is no way he's 6"11

With shoes, I think he's somewhere between 6'10 and 6'11 - probably closer to 6'11.

He's made 18 of 19 FS's his last 2 games and 9 of 10 FT's. Only played 19 minutes in the last game because it was a blowout win - still blocked 4 shots and had 9 rebounds and 4 assists.

Not even with the shoes, he's clearly shorter than Jokic and Jokic is 6"11 in the shoes. I take Jokic as the measure stick with every center, Ill say he's 6"9, 205cm , also he's not particularly long either , he has solid athleticism , but nothing out of ordinary for the NBA standards.

Post #114 » by **Ruzious** » Mon May 3, 2021 11:46 am

Mickey8 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
Mickey8 wrote:There is no way he's 6"11

With shoes, I think he's somewhere between 6'10 and 6'11 - probably closer to 6'11.

He's made 18 of 19 FS's his last 2 games and 9 of 10 FT's. Only played 19 minutes in the last game because it was a blowout win - still blocked 4 shots and had 9 rebounds and 4 assists.

Not even with the shoes, he's clearly shorter than Jokic and Jokic is 6"11 in the shoes. I take Jokic as the measure stick with every center, Ill say he's 6"9, 205cm , also he's not particularly long either , he has solid athleticism , but nothing out of ordinary for the NBA standards.

I'd be shocked if Jokic is only 6'11 in shoes.

Mickey8 · Post #115 » by **Mickey8** » Mon May 3, 2021 12:56 pm

He is 6"11 tall in the shoes , and its obvious when he's standing next to the legit 7 footers , like Zubac,Embiid,Ayton etc. He has good length, 7"3 arm wingspan.

DaddyCool19 · Post #116 » by **DaddyCool19** » Mon May 3, 2021 2:43 pm

Mickey8 wrote:He is 6"11 tall in the shoes , and its obvious when he's standing next to the legit 7 footers , like Zubac,Embiid,Ayton etc. He has good length, 7"3 arm wingspan.

Plumlee was measured at 6'11,25 without shoes at the combine. Look at him next to Jokic. Does Jokic really look only like 6'11 in shoes?

Spoiler:

pad300 · Post #117 » by **pad300** » Mon May 3, 2021 3:57 pm

I'm just not into this height and wingspan argument. The only way it will get settled is with official measurements, which we will get in due time. That said, I suspect that the numbers are fine, I just can't see a guy doing what he's doing at 18 with a significant physical disadvantage...

Mickey8 · Post #118 » by **Mickey8** » Mon May 3, 2021 7:30 pm

DaddyCool19 wrote:
Mickey8 wrote:He is 6"11 tall in the shoes , and its obvious when he's standing next to the legit 7 footers , like Zubac,Embiid,Ayton etc. He has good length, 7"3 arm wingspan.

Plumlee was measured at 6'11,25 without shoes at the combine. Look at him next to Jokic. Does Jokic really look only like 6'11 in shoes?

Spoiler:

I don't know how Plumlee was measured or how those pictures were taken , I think Plumlee's height might be inflated, but Jokic was always measured 209 cm in Serbia, without shoes which is slightly above 6"10 and in the shoes Jokic is 6"11 , 6"11.5 or close to 7ft, Sengun is obviously much shorter than Jokic.

Mickey8 · Post #119 » by **Mickey8** » Mon May 3, 2021 7:33 pm

pad300 wrote:I'm just not into this height and wingspan argument. The only way it will get settled is with official measurements, which we will get in due time. That said, I suspect that the numbers are fine, I just can't see a guy doing what he's doing at 18 with a significant physical disadvantage...

Also might depend on the level of the competition at the center position in the league he's playing at, but he is highly skilled player but should expand his range , because he will play against much more physically imposing players in the NBA and he wont be able to post up everybody in the league and score easily all the time .

Mirotic12 · Post #120 » by **Mirotic12** » Wed May 5, 2021 9:16 pm

I saw some interview where Jokic said he was 210 cm without shoes, which is 6-10 1/2. That makes perfect sense, because the NBA listed him at 7-0, when they were using in shoes height, and now he is listed at 6-11 in barefoot height (the NBA rounds up any 1/2 an inch to the next height).

So that matches exactly to the NBA listings.

The most current height listing for Sengun is 208 cm, which is 6-10. The Turkish league lists players by barefoot height, except for some of the American players, which have their in shoes height listings from the NCAA, G-League, and NBA. The Turkish players though are most definitely listed by their barefoot heights.

So, Jokic is a whole half an inch taller than Sengun. Half an inch of height is completely meaningless.