Markkanen 43/9/3 vs Croatia

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Re: Markkanen 43/9/3 vs Croatia 

Post#101 » by Tetlak » Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:57 pm

chefo wrote:Lauri's PGs and main ball handlers during his Bulls career:

* Kris Dunn
* Cam Payne
* Jerian Grant
* Zach Lavine
* Thomas Satoransky
* Denzel Valentine
* Coby White

To add to that, since Boylen's time, there's pretty much almost no cutting off baselines, no cutting from the wings, no back screens, no elevators, no post play, no high-lows, no mid post ISOs (before DD)... you get the idea. You either handled the ball as the lead G (Zach, Coby White, the others above), set a screen (WCJ, Gafford, Thad, Vuc) or spaced out (everybody else). Modern-day NBA offense, you see, otherwise known as European high-school ball from the 1990s.

The Bulls had relegated him to a stretch 4 after his soph year and had him bulk up by 20+ pounds... because, well, Embiid manhandled WCJ a bunch of times so they asked their bigs to come in jacked the next year. The fact that they both lost a lot of quickness (WCJ was reportedly at near 270) in an era where quickness is much more important to be able to hang on the outside--well, that's the Bulls FO for you; about 10 years late to present.

As for athleticism, skinny Lauri is an effin' unicorn for a legit 7 footer, if you watched him his first couple of years. Dude can do 360, between the legs and FT dunks with ease. He's got really quick feet for a guy this tall. His main problems have been injuries / COVID, being a headless chicken on D for the first 3 years with the Bulls and been coached / developed by dudes who still lived in the 90s and refused to get a single competent passer on the team for half a decade. The best passing teammate Lauri ever played with on the Bulls is... Thad Young, and that's about as sad as it comes for a Bulls fan.


He just played with Rubio for a bit, and Darius freakin Garland. Guess what? He had a worse individual season than his last season on the Bulls.

It's time to be objective about this guy.

Everyone knew Lauri was a bad contract the second he signed it. He's been relegated to NBA purgatory for the foreseeable future for a reason.
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Re: Markkanen 43/9/3 vs Croatia 

Post#102 » by lambchop » Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:57 pm

RiRuHoops wrote:
ATRAIN53 wrote:I think he might be a hit in UTAH if Ainge actually likes him and keeps him around. Seems like good fan base fit, young replacement for Jingles who Utah loved.

He could be a 20/10 guy if he really went after boards harder and got a handful of put backs in a game.


If Jazz have Sexton playing PG then Ainge better get all he can for Lauri now since his stock is good due to eurobasket play.

No one cares about Eurobasket play, unless it's to evaluate prospects before the NBA draft. Lauris strengths and weaknesses are already clear.
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Re: Markkanen 43/9/3 vs Croatia 

Post#103 » by Pentele » Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:52 pm

Tetlak wrote:,
He just played with Rubio for a bit, and Darius freakin Garland. Guess what? He had a worse individual season than his last season on the Bulls.

It's time to be objective about this guy.

Everyone knew Lauri was a bad contract the second he signed it. He's been relegated to NBA purgatory for the foreseeable future for a reason.


You should have just said in the beginning that you have no idea how Lauri has played last season. It saves others' time.

"Everyone knew Lauri was a bad contract the second he signed it"? Some objectivity would be nice indeed.
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Re: Markkanen 43/9/3 vs Croatia 

Post#104 » by Finfro » Tue Sep 13, 2022 6:01 pm

Tetlak wrote:He just played with Rubio for a bit, and Darius freakin Garland. Guess what? He had a worse individual season than his last season on the Bulls.

It's time to be objective about this guy.

Everyone knew Lauri was a bad contract the second he signed it. He's been relegated to NBA purgatory for the foreseeable future for a reason.

I guess we are whitnessing a RealGM Karen in the wild.
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Re: Markkanen 43/9/3 vs Croatia 

Post#105 » by sip » Fri Jan 6, 2023 2:39 pm

Tetlak wrote:Lauri is what he is. He somehow makes the title of positionless a bad thing in 2022.

He's an awkward fit on both ends. Can't create his own shot, struggles to finish over small player, gets eaten alive by quick guys that can close out. Can't defend inside or out.

This guy is what he is. He has never improved, will never improve, and you definitely should not expect him to improve.

Even on the trash Jazz, he won't do anything impressive playing 82 games of garbage time because it's just not in his NBA skillset.


What an embarrassing take. Maybe the worst we have ever seen on this board.
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Re: Markkanen 43/9/3 vs Croatia 

Post#106 » by mcmurphy » Fri Jan 6, 2023 4:58 pm

mcmurphy wrote:
lonzo_pelota wrote:that statline still doesnt justify his nba salary

what would andre drummond do starting against croatia 50 & 40?


So Drummond in your opinion could do 50 and 40 in a single 40min-elimination match (albeit a FIBA ​​game) when his best playoff performance of his entire career is an 18/16 playing 37min of 48min in a shattering defeat with a -32 (clearly the worst of his team)?
mmmh... ok

16.5 ml per year justifies a 16/8 with excellent efficiency that can do very well as a PF in 30min out of 48 (with a usage of just over 20%)... all that comes in more is a bargain... let's not talk about 28/8 with 60% / 40% / 90% in 27 min out of 40 (with a usage definitely higher than 30%) that would be a superstar performance in nba


my good take

35mln for next 2 seasons for a guy averages 24.5/8/2 with ts% 67.3 is pure bargain
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Re: Markkanen 43/9/3 vs Croatia 

Post#107 » by lonzo_pelota » Sat Jan 7, 2023 1:09 am

mcmurphy wrote:
mcmurphy wrote:
lonzo_pelota wrote:that statline still doesnt justify his nba salary

what would andre drummond do starting against croatia 50 & 40?


So Drummond in your opinion could do 50 and 40 in a single 40min-elimination match (albeit a FIBA ​​game) when his best playoff performance of his entire career is an 18/16 playing 37min of 48min in a shattering defeat with a -32 (clearly the worst of his team)?
mmmh... ok

16.5 ml per year justifies a 16/8 with excellent efficiency that can do very well as a PF in 30min out of 48 (with a usage of just over 20%)... all that comes in more is a bargain... let's not talk about 28/8 with 60% / 40% / 90% in 27 min out of 40 (with a usage definitely higher than 30%) that would be a superstar performance in nba


my good take

35mln for next 2 seasons for a guy averages 24.5/8/2 with ts% 67.3 is pure bargain



Pretty nice stats on a team whos front office blatantly wants them to tank by shipping out their previous 3 best players is commendable but we know how this is gonna go, its a reason he hasnt stuck previously & realizes this is one of his best chances to not be traded again, these stats remind me of Rudy Gay in his prime, they look good on paper but dont move the teams needle much just help u look formidable before the tank is full swing
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Re: Markkanen 43/9/3 vs Croatia 

Post#108 » by TheShow2021 » Sat Jan 7, 2023 2:56 am

lonzo_pelota wrote:
Pretty nice stats on a team whos front office blatantly wants them to tank by shipping out their previous 3 best players is commendable but we know how this is gonna go, its a reason he hasnt stuck previously & realizes this is one of his best chances to not be traded again, these stats remind me of Rudy Gay in his prime, they look good on paper but dont move the teams needle much just help u look formidable before the tank is full swing


24.5 on 67.3 TS.

He is not a fraud. You can't fake that.
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Re: Markkanen 43/9/3 vs Croatia 

Post#109 » by dautjazz » Sat Jan 7, 2023 3:10 am

lonzo_pelota wrote:
mcmurphy wrote:
mcmurphy wrote:
So Drummond in your opinion could do 50 and 40 in a single 40min-elimination match (albeit a FIBA ​​game) when his best playoff performance of his entire career is an 18/16 playing 37min of 48min in a shattering defeat with a -32 (clearly the worst of his team)?
mmmh... ok

16.5 ml per year justifies a 16/8 with excellent efficiency that can do very well as a PF in 30min out of 48 (with a usage of just over 20%)... all that comes in more is a bargain... let's not talk about 28/8 with 60% / 40% / 90% in 27 min out of 40 (with a usage definitely higher than 30%) that would be a superstar performance in nba


my good take

35mln for next 2 seasons for a guy averages 24.5/8/2 with ts% 67.3 is pure bargain



Pretty nice stats on a team whos front office blatantly wants them to tank by shipping out their previous 3 best players is commendable but we know how this is gonna go, its a reason he hasnt stuck previously & realizes this is one of his best chances to not be traded again, these stats remind me of Rudy Gay in his prime, they look good on paper but dont move the teams needle much just help u look formidable before the tank is full swing
What? Give me a break dude, stop hating on Lauri, he's broken out. We were suppose to tank/be awful? Well guess what, his outstanding play has contributed to winning.
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