Shams: Knicks preparing to offer Thibs an extension

[Gravy]

Now its a conspiracy or cult anytime a player says something good about Thibs.

Yall have gone full blown

[ScienceOfLosing]

you won't find any sports medicine physicians disagreeing with him though. you're ignoring the actual anatomy and physiology of the body to run with fan made narratives that don't even make sense scientifically.

injuries are just on the rise in the nba in general. look at the teams that were in the post season. cavs team just missed a bunch of players against boston. clippers still weren't at full strength. luka apparently is playing with bunch of injuries. kp is still out. giannis was injured. dame was injured. jimmy butler, rozier injured. zion injured. ingram playing hurt. conley playing through an injury right now. it's not just us, which you're trying to make it seem like.

Every team has a player playing through an injury. We have half the team out/injured.
Why the disparity? We are way beyond chance.

Not all on Thibs but our style combined with minutes must be connected.

We literally just saw the Cavs miss half of their team.

They had some longer injuries yeah, not as much as us though. We have Jules, Bogs and Mitch completely out. Cavs?

Must be an answer outside bad luck. My guess is physical style combined w short rotations.

Further, we break down every players stats so granularly but can’t find how we are different than the other teams re total injuries?

[3toheadmelo]

Every team has a player playing through an injury. We have half the team out/injured.
Why the disparity? We are way beyond chance.

Not all on Thibs but our style combined with minutes must be connected.

We literally just saw the Cavs miss half of their team.

They had some longer injuries yeah, not as much as us though. We have Jules, Bogs and Mitch completely out. Cavs?

Must be an answer outside bad luck. My guess is physical style combined w short rotations.

Further, we break down every players stats so granularly but can’t find how we are different than the other teams re total injuries?

Cavs didn’t have Levert, Jarrett Allen, Donovan Mitchell in game 5.

I am bowing out of this. As I pointed earlier, a bunch of teams missed key players in the post season. We aren’t the only one as you’re making it seem. And most of our injuries are freak accidents. Josh hart is probably the only one you can pin point to overuse. And again, it’s the post season so every team is overplaying key players.

[ScienceOfLosing]

Now its a conspiracy or cult anytime a player says something good about Thibs.

Yall have gone full blown

I just defended Thibs’ practices against what Iron Mantis said and yet I’m critical of Thibs rotations/minutes.

Why do we have more players out and injured than any other team?
You say coincidence for the coach who players voted least wanting to play for and with all these injuries?

I say our physical style combined w short rotations is responsible. Nothing personal against Thibs. I like the coach and person.

It is analagous to imagine Indy running so much w short rotations, they’d break down too.

Thibs need to adjust next regular season so our starters are better rested for the playoffs (and still use the bench well.)

[ScienceOfLosing]

We literally just saw the Cavs miss half of their team.

They had some longer injuries yeah, not as much as us though. We have Jules, Bogs and Mitch completely out. Cavs?

Must be an answer outside bad luck. My guess is physical style combined w short rotations.

Further, we break down every players stats so granularly but can’t find how we are different than the other teams re total injuries?

Cavs didn’t have Levert, Jarrett Allen, Donovan Mitchell in game 5.

I am bowing out of this. As I pointed earlier, a bunch of teams missed key players in the post season. We aren’t the only one as you’re making it seem. And most of our injuries are freak accidents. Josh hart is probably the only one you can pin point to overuse. And again, it’s the post season so every team is overplaying key players.

One game? We have three key players out for the season, maybe more now.

Why the freak injuries? (I say attrition.)

[Jeff Van Gully]

so, what we thinking? 5 years, $50m for thibs?

[Jalen Bluntson]

We had plenty of injuries due to overuse this season. Y'all are bugging to say otherwise. Mitch shouldn't have been playing on a broken ankle to begin with. OG/Hart/iHart are ALL on the list. We need depth and we need to use it more than Thibs does. Period. Tighten up the rotations down the stretch. Not in preseason!! We limped into the ASB FFS!!

[3toheadmelo]

Just going to leave this here. Posted this in the Pg thread yesterday. This guy has been spot on with injuries all year long. It also makes sense once you have an understanding of the anatomy and physiology of the body or a background in the medical field which I don’t think much people here do.

the famous sports medicine doc gave his insight about hart. hart might be screwed. also if you listen to the end of the vid, he talks about all of the injuries that we have if they were related to extended mins/over use. he thinks hart's injury is really the only one that could've been caused by overuse. but he even says it's the playoffs so of course hes gonna play tons of mins.

Watch on YouTube

and to keep things in hindsight, luke is averaging 41.8 mpg in the playoffs while hart is averaging 42.6 mpg. players play more in the post season. it is what it is.

[nedleeds]

tHe oNLy OnE ... gtfo. Without access to the chart, mri, dexa scans etc. he has no **** idea. Neither do we I suppose but you people dying on the 'Thibs doesn't run his players into the ground' hill are breathtaking. You can be a Knicks fan and not want our roster destroyed by this lunatic.

[nedleeds]

Now its a conspiracy or cult anytime a player says something good about Thibs.

Yall have gone full blown

I just defended Thibs’ practices against what Iron Mantis said and yet I’m critical of Thibs rotations/minutes.

Why do we have more players out and injured than any other team?
You say coincidence for the coach who players voted least wanting to play for and with all these injuries?

I say our physical style combined w short rotations is responsible. Nothing personal against Thibs. I like the coach and person.

It is analagous to imagine Indy running so much w short rotations, they’d break down too.

Thibs need to adjust next regular season so our starters are better rested for the playoffs (and still use the bench well.)

If he was an in game / ooto / adjustment / offensive genius I'd be more forgiving. He's not. He's never been. Calling him average is generous.

I remember the season opener with Kemba (remember when I was right about his medical history when 75% of this board said he was fine? When I called us insane for offering a 2 year deal when no other team would?).

Out of stoppage this moron, supposedly a defensive guru, has Kemba and Fournier out on the floor with 1 possession left and like clock work he gets cooked for the game tying 3. He's terrible. No thought to foul up 3. Total fossilized clown world coaching. We win games in spite of how dreadful he is. Maybe he nets out to zero given how many terrible clueless coaches are employed in this league.

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=696&GameID=0022100005&Season=2021-22&flag=1&title=Smart%2025%27%203PT%20Jump%20Shot%20(12%20PTS)%20(Schroder%207%20AST)

The only argument you can make for this orc is that players 'play hard' for him. But that's highly over rated. That same season Randle played like a homeless bum. Rj never played hard.

These 3 Nova dudes, +McBride, iHart (+OG when he isn't in traction) just love playing ball. Love playing together. Love playing hard. They don't stay up stroking it to Thibs bull speeches.

- Dr. Leeds TAKING APPOINTMENTS

[Jalen Bluntson]

Name another team in the playoffs who lost 4 starters and multiple bench players to injury this year. I'll wait.

[Gravy]

Now its a conspiracy or cult anytime a player says something good about Thibs.

Yall have gone full blown

I just defended Thibs’ practices against what Iron Mantis said and yet I’m critical of Thibs rotations/minutes.

Why do we have more players out and injured than any other team?
You say coincidence for the coach who players voted least wanting to play for and with all these injuries?

I say our physical style combined w short rotations is responsible. Nothing personal against Thibs. I like the coach and person.

It is analagous to imagine Indy running so much w short rotations, they’d break down too.

Thibs need to adjust next regular season so our starters are better rested for the playoffs (and still use the bench well.)

I'm just saying you and others have an unhinged hatred of him that's kind of disturbing. Its not even a rational conversation anymore

[Zenzibar]

Now its a conspiracy or cult anytime a player says something good about Thibs.

Yall have gone full blown

I just defended Thibs’ practices against what Iron Mantis said and yet I’m critical of Thibs rotations/minutes.

Why do we have more players out and injured than any other team?
You say coincidence for the coach who players voted least wanting to play for and with all these injuries?

I say our physical style combined w short rotations is responsible. Nothing personal against Thibs. I like the coach and person.

It is analagous to imagine Indy running so much w short rotations, they’d break down too.

Thibs need to adjust next regular season so our starters are better rested for the playoffs (and still use the bench well.)

What you fail to mention is that if Jules was here, JHart will be on the bench playing 25-30 mpg. If OG was available JHart will be on the bench. Our bench has become less than formidable after the injuries.

This is not just games but practices as well. Who runs as the 2nd unit in preparation for these games?

If not for Thibs rotation, we would not have finished 2nd in the East and therefore, not have the fortune of holding game 7 @ home.

[3toheadmelo]

Yeah guys. we shouldn't listen to a board certified physician who's been doing this for years and has been spot on with injuries. lets listen to the people who don't have any background in the medical field and also thinks thibs ruined carlos boozer's career. that's seems smart and the logical thing to do!

[robillionaire]

Now its a conspiracy or cult anytime a player says something good about Thibs.

Yall have gone full blown

I just defended Thibs’ practices against what Iron Mantis said and yet I’m critical of Thibs rotations/minutes.

Why do we have more players out and injured than any other team?
You say coincidence for the coach who players voted least wanting to play for and with all these injuries?

I say our physical style combined w short rotations is responsible. Nothing personal against Thibs. I like the coach and person.

It is analagous to imagine Indy running so much w short rotations, they’d break down too.

Thibs need to adjust next regular season so our starters are better rested for the playoffs (and still use the bench well.)

I'm just saying you and others have an unhinged hatred of him that's kind of disturbing. Its not even a rational conversation anymore

It’s rational when you realize all these people don’t really care about the injuries and just want to get rid of a winning coach because they want the team to lose. Look at the literal username of the person you’re arguing with lol

[ScienceOfLosing]

Now its a conspiracy or cult anytime a player says something good about Thibs.

Yall have gone full blown

I just defended Thibs’ practices against what Iron Mantis said and yet I’m critical of Thibs rotations/minutes.

Why do we have more players out and injured than any other team?
You say coincidence for the coach who players voted least wanting to play for and with all these injuries?

I say our physical style combined w short rotations is responsible. Nothing personal against Thibs. I like the coach and person.

It is analagous to imagine Indy running so much w short rotations, they’d break down too.

Thibs need to adjust next regular season so our starters are better rested for the playoffs (and still use the bench well.)

I'm just saying you and others have an unhinged hatred of him that's kind of disturbing. Its not even a rational conversation anymore

Did you miss where I said I liked him, in the post you reply to no less?
You see this as a personal attack and it’s merely basketball anslysis.

I actually don’t even hate those who hate me, here included.
Don ‘t make this personal.
I like the guy but want him to adjust.

[ScienceOfLosing]

Now its a conspiracy or cult anytime a player says something good about Thibs.

Yall have gone full blown

I just defended Thibs’ practices against what Iron Mantis said and yet I’m critical of Thibs rotations/minutes.

Why do we have more players out and injured than any other team?
You say coincidence for the coach who players voted least wanting to play for and with all these injuries?

I say our physical style combined w short rotations is responsible. Nothing personal against Thibs. I like the coach and person.

It is analagous to imagine Indy running so much w short rotations, they’d break down too.

Thibs need to adjust next regular season so our starters are better rested for the playoffs (and still use the bench well.)

What you fail to mention is that if Jules was here, JHart will be on the bench playing 25-30 mpg. If OG was available JHart will be on the bench. Our bench has become less than formidable after the injuries.

This is not just games but practices as well. Who runs as the 2nd unit in preparation for these games?

If not for Thibs rotation, we would not have finished 2nd in the East and therefore, not have the fortune of holding game 7 @ home.

2nd in the East at the cost of health?

Ever hear of winning a battle that costs you the war? That’s what Thibs did.
Not smart. It’s supposed to be the other way around, roughly speaking.

[ScienceOfLosing]

Yeah guys. we shouldn't listen to a board certified physician who's been doing this for years and has been spot on with injuries. lets listen to the people who don't have any background in the medical field and also thinks thibs ruined carlos boozer's career. that's seems smart and the logical thing to do!

Yeah, let’s listen to 1 doctor who you agree with and ignore stats re half our team out or injured.
Just use stats when it fits you.

[nedleeds]

Now its a conspiracy or cult anytime a player says something good about Thibs.

Yall have gone full blown

I just defended Thibs’ practices against what Iron Mantis said and yet I’m critical of Thibs rotations/minutes.

Why do we have more players out and injured than any other team?
You say coincidence for the coach who players voted least wanting to play for and with all these injuries?

I say our physical style combined w short rotations is responsible. Nothing personal against Thibs. I like the coach and person.

It is analagous to imagine Indy running so much w short rotations, they’d break down too.

Thibs need to adjust next regular season so our starters are better rested for the playoffs (and still use the bench well.)

What you fail to mention is that if Jules was here, JHart will be on the bench playing 25-30 mpg. If OG was available JHart will be on the bench. Our bench has become less than formidable after the injuries.

This is not just games but practices as well. Who runs as the 2nd unit in preparation for these games?

If not for Thibs rotation, we would not have finished 2nd in the East and therefore, not have the fortune of holding game 7 @ home.

What you fail to mention is that Thibs ran Randle into the dirt for 3 years chasing nothing.



But I'm sure we can find a MD on MySpace who says repeated pounding in impact sports doesn't add up.

[ScienceOfLosing]

I just defended Thibs’ practices against what Iron Mantis said and yet I’m critical of Thibs rotations/minutes.

Why do we have more players out and injured than any other team?
You say coincidence for the coach who players voted least wanting to play for and with all these injuries?

I say our physical style combined w short rotations is responsible. Nothing personal against Thibs. I like the coach and person.

It is analagous to imagine Indy running so much w short rotations, they’d break down too.

Thibs need to adjust next regular season so our starters are better rested for the playoffs (and still use the bench well.)

I'm just saying you and others have an unhinged hatred of him that's kind of disturbing. Its not even a rational conversation anymore

It’s rational when you realize all these people don’t really care about the injuries and just want to get rid of a winning coach because they want the team to lose. Look at the literal username of the person you’re arguing with lol

My username was created from the last regime.

I want to extend Thibs but want him to change the rotations in the regular season, primarily but also on an individual basis. E.g. OG can’t play normal minutes.