Shams: Celtics Trade Jrue Holiday to Portland for Anfernee Simons, Two Second-Round Picks

ArksNetsSince99 · Post #101 » by **ArksNetsSince99** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:20 am

Too lazy to check , but who’s Portland GM ? Billy King ?

Chi town · Post #102 » by **Chi town** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:22 am

DusterBuster wrote:
VFX wrote:How is Portland benefitting from this?

Only thing I can see is a mentor for Scoot.

Bingo.

And a leader for the young guys.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #103 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:22 am

ArksNetsSince99 wrote:Too lazy to check , but who’s Portland GM ? Billy King ?

I don't know the first name but it's Cronin

DaddyCool19 · Post #104 » by **DaddyCool19** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:22 am

I would only get this trade if Holiday was an expiring contract and Portland was 1-2 years further in their rebuild. Seems like Boston won a 2nd trade with Portland

GrandTheftRondo · Post #105 » by **GrandTheftRondo** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:23 am

Remember when everyone was telling Celtics fans we’d have to pay up to get out of the Holiday deal?

LOL.

Don’t doubt Brad’s ability to make things happen.

Don’t even like Simons that much but he’s an expiring deal we can gamble on while Tatum recovers.

Post #106 » by **SOUL** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:24 am

I don't think the on-court difference is what makes this a winning trade for Boston, think Simons has a lot of exploitable deficiencies and his offense while good isn't always going to offset that.. but getting off the contract and getting picks back.

thelead · Post #107 » by **thelead** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:24 am

Chi town wrote:
DusterBuster wrote:
VFX wrote:How is Portland benefitting from this?

Only thing I can see is a mentor for Scoot.

Bingo.

And a leader for the young guys.

Billups is too far removed for that???

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #108 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:24 am

Is Boston bringing back Marcus Smart or something

FarBeyondDriven · Post #109 » by **FarBeyondDriven** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:25 am

DusterBuster wrote:
OrangeBlueSkies wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:it's atrocious, but if the Blazers can somehow get out from under the Grant and Ayton contracts, even if they have to use Scoot to do so, I could see them being competitive. There has to be other moves that make this make sense.

Ahaha can’t get rid of Scoot, they are now paying his “mentor” 32 million a season

Ayton is expiring.

This thread proves one thing, no one here knows the Blazers salary books well.

is Ayton, a guy not in their future plans, not currently making $35 million which is acting as an achor on their salary cap? Enlighten us plebs the intricacies of the salary books (as you call it) so we understand.

the_process · Post #110 » by **the_process** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:25 am

Very weird trade. Does BOS plan on starting White/Simons/Brown/Horford together? I mean, I assume they plan on dumping Porzingis now to actually get out of the 2nd apron?

As for POR, they must see this as an upgrade and want to try and make the playoffs? Is Jrue going to mentor Scoot?

Didn't save enough money and questionable upgrade. Very weird trade. Almost feels incomplete.

BigGargamel · Post #111 » by **BigGargamel** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:25 am

doogie_hauser wrote:
BigGargamel wrote:
iggymcfrack wrote:
Jrue could be a valuable piece for a team like Denver or Minnesota that's maybe one player away from contending for a title next year. Portland had the 3rd worst SRS in the West this year and Jerami Grant at 30 was their only player over 27 years old. They should be looking toward the future, not trying to grab a declining vet in his 17th season. It makes absolutely no sense for Portland in particular.

Denver would have to trade away MPJ or Murray to match salaries. That would make me extremely sad. Holiday is on clear decline.

I would trade MPJ for Jrue in a heartbeat if I was Denver tbh

People won't shut up about MPJ's contract, but he's 26 years old. Holiday is going to be paid 37 million dollars as a 37 year old, four years from now, and the decline has already started.

MoreyWins · Post #112 » by **MoreyWins** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:25 am

If bringing in a veteran PG worked for Houston it can work for Portland....right?

RookieStar · Post #113 » by **RookieStar** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:26 am

As a Magic fan.. Simons was one of long time targets for a trade so we know and researched about him. From being an Orlando native to his offrnsive arsenal we need....etc etc

One thing we always argued about in our board about him is he is a traffic cone on defense. We know traffic cone becausr we have Moe and Cole with us. Those 2 look like part of Pistons 2004 team compared to Simons.

But hey.. Simons can shoot. And he reduces salary.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #114 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:26 am

MoreyWins wrote:If bringing in a veteran PG worked for Houston it can work for Portland....right?

That's what Cronin is thinking

Raps in 4 · Post #115 » by **Raps in 4** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:26 am

Stevens is a top-5 GM. Someone prove me wrong.

Kalela · Post #116 » by **Kalela** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:27 am

I don't know why some individuals keep saying this but Jrue is not washed. He was dealing with an injury most of last season. When healthy again, he is a difference maker in the playoffs.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #117 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:27 am

Raps in 4 wrote:Stevens is a top-5 GM. Someone prove me wrong.

Who's in your top 5

th87 · Post #118 » by **th87** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:28 am

GrandTheftRondo wrote:Remember when everyone was telling Celtics fans we’d have to pay up to get out of the Holiday deal?

LOL.

Don’t doubt Brad’s ability to make things happen.

Don’t even like Simons that much but he’s an expiring deal we can gamble on while Tatum recovers.

Underestimated NBA directives.

ball_takes23 · Post #119 » by **ball_takes23** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:28 am

CelticSooner wrote:The more I think about it I think he will be flipped somewhere else. Holiday will want to play on a contender, the question is who has space for him?

Houston?

BlazersBroncos · Post #120 » by **BlazersBroncos** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 4:29 am

the_process wrote:Very weird trade. Does BOS plan on starting White/Simons/Brown/Horford together? I mean, I assume they plan on dumping Porzingis now to actually get out of the 2nd apron?

As for POR, they must see this as an upgrade and want to try and make the playoffs? Is Jrue going to mentor Scoot?

Didn't save enough money and questionable upgrade. Very weird trade. Almost feels incomplete.

Holiday can play with either of the young guards and should have a + developmental impact.

Simons is not a playoff caliber guard. He has never made a team better. Empty calories.

Doesn’t justify the size of/ length of taking the Holiday deal without at least pick 28 but the on court impact of Holiday vs Simons isn’t close.

Simons is a Marcus Thornton level guy.

Winner