OT: Giannis / Bucks Trade Coming?
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Psubs wrote:MoneyBall wrote:HangTime wrote:
I wouldn't trade Scottie for Giannis straight up.
The problem is, we're not really in a win now kind of situation. I'd do it if I thought it would put us within striking distance of winning a Championship, but we're still so far away. Giannis has such glaring strengths and weaknesses that the roster around him needs to be taylor made for him... I don't think Poeltl and Barrett work at all with him.
Probably just 1 move away from being the Pacers from last season.
Maybe from a pure talent evaluation standpoint, but in terms of team cohesiveness, I don't buy it. Maybe they figure it out in the offseason and then really compete for it in 2027.
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artsncrafts wrote:navyblue wrote:[Windhorst] The Milwaukee Bucks are NOT expected to open up a Giannis Antetokounmpo sweepstakes to the entire league. Antetokounmpo will get to pick a team and Milwaukee will try their best to get a trade done with his preferred team.
This is a bit silly from a team standpoint. Like you can TRY to make it the best offer but you are significantly hurting your future probably if you only will trade to 1 team that will most likely have some of the worst assets. This is like Nico only trading Luka to Lakers because....reasons.
It’s worse - they don’t have their picks, so you’re basically killing your franchise for about 4 years. If I’m Milwaukee, I’m looking at Atlanta to get my pick back and some assets or trading him for at least one up and coming star (Houston, OKC or San Antonio)
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Tha Cynic wrote:artsncrafts wrote:navyblue wrote:[Windhorst] The Milwaukee Bucks are NOT expected to open up a Giannis Antetokounmpo sweepstakes to the entire league. Antetokounmpo will get to pick a team and Milwaukee will try their best to get a trade done with his preferred team.
This is a bit silly from a team standpoint. Like you can TRY to make it the best offer but you are significantly hurting your future probably if you only will trade to 1 team that will most likely have some of the worst assets. This is like Nico only trading Luka to Lakers because....reasons.
It’s worse - they don’t have their picks, so you’re basically killing your franchise for about 4 years. If I’m Milwaukee, I’m looking at Atlanta to he my pick back and he some assets or trading him for at least one up and coming star.
Mil has a pick this year, worst of own or pelicans, bucks are already in lottery and if they start tanking they can come close to 5-6th pick. so if there ever was an incentive to bottom out for them its this year.
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navyblue wrote:Tha Cynic wrote:artsncrafts wrote:
This is a bit silly from a team standpoint. Like you can TRY to make it the best offer but you are significantly hurting your future probably if you only will trade to 1 team that will most likely have some of the worst assets. This is like Nico only trading Luka to Lakers because....reasons.
It’s worse - they don’t have their picks, so you’re basically killing your franchise for about 4 years. If I’m Milwaukee, I’m looking at Atlanta to he my pick back and he some assets or trading him for at least one up and coming star.
Mil has a pick this year, worst of own or pelicans, bucks are already in lottery and if they start tanking they can come close to 5-6th pick. so if there ever was an incentive to bottom out for them its this year.
Good point. If they’re bottoming out this year I still see it as more of a great young player and picks. San Antonio for Harper gives them a decent pick this season and another young player.
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Tha Cynic wrote:navyblue wrote:Tha Cynic wrote:
It’s worse - they don’t have their picks, so you’re basically killing your franchise for about 4 years. If I’m Milwaukee, I’m looking at Atlanta to he my pick back and he some assets or trading him for at least one up and coming star.
Mil has a pick this year, worst of own or pelicans, bucks are already in lottery and if they start tanking they can come close to 5-6th pick. so if there ever was an incentive to bottom out for them its this year.
Good point. If they’re bottoming out this year I still see it as more of a great young player and picks. San Antonio for Harper gives them a decent pick this season and another young player.
I've always maintained that Spurs can offer the most (assuming HOU won't move Sengun). I just don't know if Giannis will want to go there. Apparently he wants to stay in the East because it's closer to Greece, where his wife and kids now mainly reside.
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Jerry Lucas wrote:Yeezus_ wrote:Bring him home!
He's not getting traded to the Raptors LOL.
Bucks are going to do right by him in a trade, and any chance that Giannis might have wanted to come here went out the door with Masai. The pre-existing Masai/Giannis connection was the only thing that made it a semi-realistic possibility for us to dream on before.
I was joking man. He’s probably going to the Knicks, Spurs or Heat.
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Giannis winning a ring in NYK would cement him as a legend and prob help the NBA as a whole.
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Doesn't make sense for the Bucks to want win-now pieces in return especially if they're shipping him to the Eastern Conference.
GIannis to OKC in exchange for 4 FRP + Dortz + Hartenstein
Thunder finish the season 81-1 and 16-0 in the playoffs
GIannis to OKC in exchange for 4 FRP + Dortz + Hartenstein
Thunder finish the season 81-1 and 16-0 in the playoffs
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Tha Cynic wrote:artsncrafts wrote:navyblue wrote:[Windhorst] The Milwaukee Bucks are NOT expected to open up a Giannis Antetokounmpo sweepstakes to the entire league. Antetokounmpo will get to pick a team and Milwaukee will try their best to get a trade done with his preferred team.
This is a bit silly from a team standpoint. Like you can TRY to make it the best offer but you are significantly hurting your future probably if you only will trade to 1 team that will most likely have some of the worst assets. This is like Nico only trading Luka to Lakers because....reasons.
It’s worse - they don’t have their picks, so you’re basically killing your franchise for about 4 years. If I’m Milwaukee, I’m looking at Atlanta to get my pick back and some assets or trading him for at least one up and coming star (Houston, OKC or San Antonio)
They're going to have to respect where Giannis wants to go. There's likely a 2-3 team list that Giannis will accept going to. He likely gave this team a shot this season contingent on them working together if things go south. I think the priority of any trade is use the assets they get back in order to get back control of some of their picks. If that roster can't win with Giannis, why would you be retooling instead by trading him? You're blowing it up IMO.
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mihaic wrote:Tor_Raps wrote:The Giannis dream ended once Masai was let go. Guys like Giannis have personal relationships with the owner and we all know Giannis ain't gonna be cool with Ed Rogers with how Masai was let go...
I don't think Giannis wants to go to Toronto even if Masai is here.
The "dream" that Giannis would come here because of Masai was always a fantasy. We had the Championship team structure still largely in place, 53 wins in 2020 - an ideal time for Giannis to sign here - and then he rejected Masai. Then in 2022 & the knockout punch, when asked by Ibaka on record on his show How Hungry are You, "True or False, would you ever play for the Toronto Raptors," he responded "Let's go with False".
But you can argue, never say never, thing change, etc. Yes, things have changed. We are a weaker team than back then and unlike in 2020 when he could just sign here outright, today we'd have to trade for him - i.e., give up core players since MIL don't own their pick thus isn't tanking - which would make us (before Giannis) even weaker & more unlikely to contend for a Championship than in 2020.
Then the final blow: Giannis said he wants to play in NY & there's preponderance of hard evidence pointing away from him ever playing for us. So regarding the "dream" of Masai's influence of Giannis to ever come here, I'm reminded of the Gertrude Stein saying: "there's no there there."
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Tha Cynic wrote:artsncrafts wrote:navyblue wrote:[Windhorst] The Milwaukee Bucks are NOT expected to open up a Giannis Antetokounmpo sweepstakes to the entire league. Antetokounmpo will get to pick a team and Milwaukee will try their best to get a trade done with his preferred team.
This is a bit silly from a team standpoint. Like you can TRY to make it the best offer but you are significantly hurting your future probably if you only will trade to 1 team that will most likely have some of the worst assets. This is like Nico only trading Luka to Lakers because....reasons.
It’s worse - they don’t have their picks, so you’re basically killing your franchise for about 4 years. If I’m Milwaukee, I’m looking at Atlanta to get my pick back and some assets or trading him for at least one up and coming star (Houston, OKC or San Antonio)
OKC, Houston, and SAS are all far better basketball situations than NYK, and Houston is even a decently sized media market.
It's a win-win for both Giannis and the Bucks. I don't see why he would oppose a move to any of those teams. The only way a move to the Knicks makes sense is if Silver promises the Bucks something under the table (like the #1 pick, although I'm not sure when the Bucks even have their own pick next).
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Out for 2-4 weeks now.
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MiamiSPX wrote:Out for 2-4 weeks now.
Would it have been that hard to just hold him out until the trade happens? This looked as close to an agreed upon faked injury as I have ever seen.
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?
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Raps in 4 wrote:Tha Cynic wrote:artsncrafts wrote:
This is a bit silly from a team standpoint. Like you can TRY to make it the best offer but you are significantly hurting your future probably if you only will trade to 1 team that will most likely have some of the worst assets. This is like Nico only trading Luka to Lakers because....reasons.
It’s worse - they don’t have their picks, so you’re basically killing your franchise for about 4 years. If I’m Milwaukee, I’m looking at Atlanta to get my pick back and some assets or trading him for at least one up and coming star (Houston, OKC or San Antonio)
OKC, Houston, and SAS are all far better basketball situations than NYK, and Houston is even a decently sized media market.
It's a win-win for both Giannis and the Bucks. I don't see why he would oppose a move to any of those teams. The only way a move to the Knicks makes sense is if Silver promises the Bucks something under the table (like the #1 pick, although I'm not sure when the Bucks even have their own pick next).
2026 worst of bucks and pelicans (at best can be 2nd)
2027 - nothing
2028 worst of bucks/blazers
2029 nothing
2030 worst of bucks/blazer
2031 own
2032 own
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https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/3418524/report-giannis-out-at-least-2-weeks-due-to-calf-strain
Milwaukee Bucks forward Giannis Antetokounmpo will be out two-to-four weeks after suffering a right calf strain in Wednesday's victory over the Detroit Pistons, sources told ESPN's Shams Charania.
The two-time MVP exited three minutes into the first quarter after collapsing to the floor while running back on defense. He left the court under his own power.
Antetokounmpo's injury comes at a perilous time for the Bucks, who are 2-8 in their last 10 outings and hold the 10th and final play-in spot in the Eastern Conference.
The injury follows reports of ongoing discussions between Milwaukee and the nine-time All-Star about his future with the franchise. A resolution is expected in the coming weeks and will determine whether the 30-year-old is available prior to the Feb. 5 trade deadline, according to Charania.
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Raps in 4 wrote:Tha Cynic wrote:artsncrafts wrote:
This is a bit silly from a team standpoint. Like you can TRY to make it the best offer but you are significantly hurting your future probably if you only will trade to 1 team that will most likely have some of the worst assets. This is like Nico only trading Luka to Lakers because....reasons.
It’s worse - they don’t have their picks, so you’re basically killing your franchise for about 4 years. If I’m Milwaukee, I’m looking at Atlanta to get my pick back and some assets or trading him for at least one up and coming star (Houston, OKC or San Antonio)
OKC, Houston, and SAS are all far better basketball situations than NYK, and Houston is even a decently sized media market.
It's a win-win for both Giannis and the Bucks. I don't see why he would oppose a move to any of those teams. The only way a move to the Knicks makes sense is if Silver promises the Bucks something under the table (like the #1 pick, although I'm not sure when the Bucks even have their own pick next).
Durant and Antetkounpo will be a perfect fit and duo together. Will also be a beautiful ending to KDs career with a ring
I can see Van Vleet,Sengun and some draft picks go the other way. If you are Milwaukee Sengun is a minimum
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At this point, it is starting to be too many "Achilles tendon primary support"-muscle(calf) injuries for Giannis. We can let him join the Knicks while gutting them.
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For the first season since the championship, I'm not praying for this trade to happen for us. It's so nice to feel like we don't need it to save our franchise.
















