Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley

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Who will be the better player?

Anthony Randolph
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Michael Beasley
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#101 » by KR4 » Fri Sep 18, 2009 4:15 pm

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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#102 » by 5Strong » Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:45 am

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I would take Beasley and I'm a non heat fan. Beasley is the safer pick and has a ton of upside as well.


What's unsafe about Randolph?

Clean offcourt life + monstrous work ethic + athleticism + quickness + handles + size. Beasley was more polished coming out of college. That's it. Randolph destroys him on every level imaginable. It's not even close. He destroys him.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#103 » by cookie » Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:35 am

and.... randolph is now 7 feet and 222 pounds according to the article about don nelson talking to his parents :P
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#104 » by Wade2k6 » Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:12 pm

5Strong wrote:
LebronsCavs wrote:
I would take Beasley and I'm a non heat fan. Beasley is the safer pick and has a ton of upside as well.


What's unsafe about Randolph?

Clean offcourt life + monstrous work ethic + athleticism + quickness + handles + size. Beasley was more polished coming out of college. That's it. Randolph destroys him on every level imaginable. It's not even close. He destroys him.

If Randolph destroyed Beasley "on every level imaginable" then he would have gotten more then 20 minutes a game on a team 30 games under .500. If you prefer Randolph to Beasley that's fine, but don't act like Randolph has proven so much and Beasley hasn't shown anything.

In the games Beasley played over 30 minutes he averaged something like 19-8, which is very good for a rookie.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#105 » by LoboGuerrero » Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:19 pm

Wade2k6 wrote:If Randolph destroyed Beasley "on every level imaginable" then he would have gotten more then 20 minutes a game on a team 30 games under .500


Except you're forgetting that Nellie is insane.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#106 » by Wade2k6 » Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:40 pm

LoboGuerrero wrote:
Wade2k6 wrote:If Randolph destroyed Beasley "on every level imaginable" then he would have gotten more then 20 minutes a game on a team 30 games under .500


Except you're forgetting that Nellie is insane.

I don't buy that as an excuse. If he can play 3 positions (SF-C) then he should be getting more then 18 minutes a game on a team 30 games under .500.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#107 » by oaktownwarriors87 » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:31 pm

Wade2k6 wrote:
5Strong wrote:
LebronsCavs wrote:
I would take Beasley and I'm a non heat fan. Beasley is the safer pick and has a ton of upside as well.


What's unsafe about Randolph?

Clean offcourt life + monstrous work ethic + athleticism + quickness + handles + size. Beasley was more polished coming out of college. That's it. Randolph destroys him on every level imaginable. It's not even close. He destroys him.

If Randolph destroyed Beasley "on every level imaginable" then he would have gotten more then 20 minutes a game on a team 30 games under .500. If you prefer Randolph to Beasley that's fine, but don't act like Randolph has proven so much and Beasley hasn't shown anything.

In the games Beasley played over 30 minutes he averaged something like 19-8, which is very good for a rookie.


I wouldn't say he destroyed him on all levels at all. He didn't play because of his work ethic and his attitude. I know Nelly didn't like a lot of the shots he took as well.

He didn't play because Nelly didn't think he was ready. Nelly wants players that can shoot and Randolphs shot isn't quite at that point.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#108 » by NetsForce » Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:30 pm

Wade2k6 wrote:
LoboGuerrero wrote:
Wade2k6 wrote:If Randolph destroyed Beasley "on every level imaginable" then he would have gotten more then 20 minutes a game on a team 30 games under .500


Except you're forgetting that Nellie is insane.

I don't buy that as an excuse. If he can play 3 positions (SF-C) then he should be getting more then 18 minutes a game on a team 30 games under .500.


It's possible the Warriors just wanted to preserve his body / extend his career by limiting his minutes this past year.

I think it's also very plausible that the above was done in part so the Warriors could land Stephen Kobe Bryant Curry.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#109 » by Rob Rowell » Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:53 pm

Both players are going to be really good theres no doubt about that. Randolph stock is up right now because of the incredible off season he has had with the summer league, olympic team, and insane workout regiments we've heard and read. Beasley stock is down becuase of rehab so this season will tell us alot about who will take it to the next level.

The thought of both these guys on the same team would be insane!!!!!
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#110 » by Sid the Squid » Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:59 am

Beasley's not going to be really good..He's really short , his feet are really slow and his attitude really sucks. He's a Glen Big Dog Robinson type..He will put up some good scoring stats at times, but have zero impact on winning.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#111 » by 510TWSS » Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:51 am

I can see Beasley being a Big Dog type of player, But on the other hand i've only seen Beasley in College and a handfull of games + playoffs. I think Beasley will be an All-Star caliber player. But mainly due to his scoring prowess, similar to a Carmelo Anthony-highly efficient scoring threat. But likewise with Anthony, you're not going to mention defense and Beasley in the same breath. He might be league average, but I can't see him becoming a monster on BOTH sides of the ball. I'm not saying he won't, he just needs to prove me wrong first. And while I don't think the rehab is a huge issue, (unless it's for hard drugs like Heroin, cocaine, or crack) his stock is down while Randolph has been kicking up a storm this offseason.

With Randolph you really don't know what you're going to get yet as he is far from a finished product. Someone brought up an interesting point in that with Randolph's unique skill-set he really can do everything on the court. But like-was the case with Lamar Odom, expectations were too lofty which ended up in a lot of Clipper resentment. This is still a possibility with Randolph. But you can't help but root for the guy. He's the first good Forward to play for the Warriors in a long, long time.

If both hits their peak, I think I'll take Randolph (homer pick, I know), he won't score like Beasley can score, but I see him being more valuable in other areas such as passing, rebounding (he's a beast like no other in this aspect), blocked shots, and leadership. I see him turning into a much better leader and example on and off the court than Beasley.

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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#112 » by Joseph17 » Sun Sep 20, 2009 3:29 am

GswStorm3 wrote:Beasley is too busy getting stoned rather than improving his game. His work ethic sucks.

How do you know that? I love it when people say that players have a bad work ethic. If you aren't there with them during practice, you have no right to talk about a player's work ethic.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#113 » by NO-KG-AI » Sun Sep 20, 2009 3:46 am

Beasley has a great work ethic anyway, that's why his skill set and his physique are both insanely developed for his age. You think he lucked into a strong body and polished scoring skills?
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#114 » by J-Ville Smoke » Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:24 am

As a fan of neither team I think I would take AR at this point, solely based on height and athleticism. I remember when we selected a raw player with height and athleticism at #1 overall when conventional wisdom said to take the older, college player.

Not to mention AR is younger, and has no off-court issues that I know of.

(Disclaimer: I'm not saying AR will be as good as Dwight Howard)
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#115 » by j-ragg » Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:45 pm

Dwight in his 1st year actually played a lot on a bad team.

Randolph played behind.... Turiaf?

I'd take Beasley 10 times out of 10 until Randolph can get off the bench. This guy is getting overrated like crazy.

Can someone explain why Randolph is going to go from a 7 & 5 player to 20 & 10 with All-World defense next year?

Also, strength doesn't mean dunking on Yao twice, and dunking on a white guy from the Bulls who isn't even Brad Miller. This guy isn't strong enough to get 30+ minutes at power forward.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#116 » by ARownsBeasley » Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:43 pm

j-ragg wrote:Dwight in his 1st year actually played a lot on a bad team.

Randolph played behind.... Turiaf?

I'd take Beasley 10 times out of 10 until Randolph can get off the bench. This guy is getting overrated like crazy.

Can someone explain why Randolph is going to go from a 7 & 5 player to 20 & 10 with All-World defense next year?

Also, strength doesn't mean dunking on Yao twice, and dunking on a white guy from the Bulls who isn't even Brad Miller. This guy isn't strong enough to get 30+ minutes at power forward.


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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#117 » by miamiballer » Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:48 pm

i am honestly shocked at this poll result

am i missing something or is AR all hype at this pt, dude didnt put up big numbers on a sub 500 team and all of a sudden ppl make him out to be the next hall of famer

not saying he wont be a good player but hes way overrated and beasley is way underrated on realgm

i think AR can peak at lamar odom/tayshaun prince

i see beasley as an antawn jamison/carmelo anthony hybrid

beasley will be the much superior scorer while AR will prob be better at defense and intangibles

neither is a guy you want to build around IMO

just saying that AR gets a lot of undeserved hype around here

people will take notice of beasley this season and i and other heat fans will say I TOLD YOU SO

people like to say that beasley is too small for a pf but they forget that we have dwyane friggin wade on this team...we dont need beasley to be some superstar pf, we need for him to be a reliable 2nd-3rd option which he can surely become in time whether it be at pf or sf, well sign either amare or bosh in 2010 and roll with one of the best big 3's in the nba: bosh or amare, beasley and wade
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#118 » by KR4 » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:59 pm

miamiballer wrote:i am honestly shocked at this poll result

am i missing something or is AR all hype at this pt, dude didnt put up big numbers on a sub 500 team and all of a sudden ppl make him out to be the next hall of famer

not saying he wont be a good player but hes way overrated and beasley is way underrated on realgm

i think AR can peak at lamar odom/tayshaun prince

i see beasley as an antawn jamison/carmelo anthony hybrid

beasley will be the much superior scorer while AR will prob be better at defense and intangibles

neither is a guy you want to build around IMO

just saying that AR gets a lot of undeserved hype around here

people will take notice of beasley this season and i and other heat fans will say I TOLD YOU SO

people like to say that beasley is too small for a pf but they forget that we have dwyane friggin wade on this team...we dont need beasley to be some superstar pf, we need for him to be a reliable 2nd-3rd option which he can surely become in time whether it be at pf or sf, well sign either amare or bosh in 2010 and roll with one of the best big 3's in the nba: bosh or amare, beasley and wade


Good post.

to be honest, you guys on the East coast didn't get to see many of the games the AR played in March and April of last year. The only explanation I have for people thinking that AR is overrated at this point is the fact that they didn't watch any games he played in.

One thing that AR has is complete, intense desire. a 7 ft kid who has handles, jumps out of the gym, prides himself on D, and has burning intensity. That's what I see...that's why he might have the tool set to be a top tier player int he league.

The Warrior brass deem him untouchable, and feel that he may be a player to build a franchise around. Granted, its the Warriors, but I haven't heard that about SuperCoolBeas.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#119 » by cool007 » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:48 pm

I also really surprised at these polls. How is Randolph beating Beasley???

Beasley is easily already better and will be MUCH better when all said and done.

Randolph has great potential but he MIGHT get there Beasley is already a solid player and a key part in a playoff team.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#120 » by RoyceDa59 » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:55 pm

I'll take Beasley. He is a very talented scorer and with a few good years of coaching, I think he can be a very deadly offensive player. There is a reason this guy went 2nd overall, because he put up godly numbers in college and there still lots of room for growth. The rehab is a set back, but at the same time I think it may be a blessing in disguise for this young adult. It's a good sign to see that he has acknowledged that he has a problem and is willing to work hard at overcoming. If he played for years and became rich and famous it may have been too late. I think the rehab stint will add an extra year to the development stage of his career, but there is a means to an ends and in the end it will teach him the kind of dedication and work ethic needed to achieve greatness, and it may also strengthen his love for the game of basketball. Beasley is at his lowest possible value / perception right now, so it's easy to go with (grew 2 inches of the summer) Randolph, but I feel with a bit of guidance for him, this comparison wont be close, and Beasley will become an all-star in the NBA.
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