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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1001 » by ShayDee » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:22 am

Little Digger wrote:Warriors get: Spencer Dinwiddie, Jarrett Allen, No. 19 overall pick in 2020 NBA Draft

Nets get: Victor Oladipo

Pacers get: No. 2 overall pick in 2020 NBA Draft

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/intriguing-warriors-nets-pacers-trade-discussed-bill-simmons-zach-lowe


Not good Value for the #2 pick but If Bane is still there maybe I take it. Nets/Pacers need to add few more picks. Maybe a future 1st from Pacers
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1002 » by Mylie10 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:25 am

Little Digger wrote:Warriors get: Spencer Dinwiddie, Jarrett Allen, No. 19 overall pick in 2020 NBA Draft

Nets get: Victor Oladipo

Pacers get: No. 2 overall pick in 2020 NBA Draft

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/intriguing-warriors-nets-pacers-trade-discussed-bill-simmons-zach-lowe



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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1003 » by Mylie10 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:26 am

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Little Digger wrote:Warriors get: Spencer Dinwiddie, Jarrett Allen, No. 19 overall pick in 2020 NBA Draft

Nets get: Victor Oladipo

Pacers get: No. 2 overall pick in 2020 NBA Draft

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/intriguing-warriors-nets-pacers-trade-discussed-bill-simmons-zach-lowe


Not good Value for the #2 pick but If Bane is still there maybe I take it. Nets/Pacers need to add few more picks. Maybe a future 1st from Pacers


Bane, Achiuwa, Reed.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1004 » by HiRez » Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:14 am

Little Digger wrote:Warriors get: Spencer Dinwiddie, Jarrett Allen, No. 19 overall pick in 2020 NBA Draft

Nets get: Victor Oladipo

Pacers get: No. 2 overall pick in 2020 NBA Draft

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/intriguing-warriors-nets-pacers-trade-discussed-bill-simmons-zach-lowe

I wish their pick was a little higher than #19 but I'd take that deal for sure. Dinwiddie is killing it and getting better, and is still young, would be an amazing Steph and Klay backup as well as small ball cog. Allen would give us some size and rebounding. Somewhat iffy whether Bane will be on the board there, but Pokusevski probably will or maybe others fall.

If this is a real offer, take it.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1005 » by wco81 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:17 am

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I'll add in another best case: Detlef Schrempf


If Deni got a Detlef style flat top, i'd trade up to #1 to make sure we land him.


Hmmm...doesn't he seem quicker than these guys? Hedo and Schrempf were both pretty slow right? Hayward is lazy slow...ugh...hate watching him play to be honest.

And yeah...they should all be forced to watch Dunleavy footage before drafting him lol



Hayward has been an all-star. I doubt he has Hayward's ball handling.

Hedo and Schrempf had long careers. They could definitely shoot at the NBA level though I don't know how much the 3-point shot was during Detlef's career.

Deni may be blowing by opponents in the footage. But how many of them are near the athletes you'd find in the NBA?

Luca played in a tougher league and has now shown he can take it to the rim in the NBA.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1006 » by DAWill1128 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:21 am

Little Digger wrote:Warriors get: Spencer Dinwiddie, Jarrett Allen, No. 19 overall pick in 2020 NBA Draft

Nets get: Victor Oladipo

Pacers get: No. 2 overall pick in 2020 NBA Draft

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/intriguing-warriors-nets-pacers-trade-discussed-bill-simmons-zach-lowe


That’s a huge haul for the #2 pick and TPE. We would be getting a 6-6 combo guard who averaged 20ppg 7 apg, an athletic 7-0 center with a 7-6 wingspan that averaged 11ppg 9rpg, and the #19 pick which is currently Sadiq Bey on NBADraftNet.

Then we sign Harkless for length or Holiday for shooting with the MLE.

C Allen, Looney, Chriss
PF Green, Paschall, Smiley
SF Wiggins, Harkless, Bey
SG Thompson, Lee, Poole
PG Curry, Dinwiddie, Bowman
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1007 » by Mylie10 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:25 am

I really like Dinwiddie except for the fact that he shoots volume on low percentages. Maybe he will shoot better, but he was surrounded with other shooting and scoring options on the Nets, but still shot crummy numbers.

But the team really responded well to him and they had some minor success. I love his length and he could be a good defender if he put his mind to it.

Tell you what, I like Dinwiddie better than D’Lo and that’s no lie.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1008 » by wco81 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:41 am

Dinwiddie would be filling a role like Jarrett Jack, a backup PG who mostly calls his own number, shooting over smaller defenders and a liability on defense.
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Post#1009 » by DAWill1128 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:53 am

Dinwiddie on the team we would be relentless on offense, nobody would out score us with our outside shooting, attacking ability, passing, and versatility on offense. These games would be over by the end of the 3rd. Thing about teams like the Nuggets and Heat is they always had to take a foot of the gas against the Lakers to rest Murray, Jokic, Butler so they could never build those big leads. Our team would have the guys to floor it.

Curry 27ppg
Thompson 21ppg
Wiggins 21ppg
Dinwiddie 20ppg
Paschall 14ppg

You might say well what about the defense? We would have a lot of length and talent with Allen, Looney, Chriss, Green, Paschall, Wiggins, Harkless, Bey up front to get into passing lanes and contest shots. Our bigs would be good at switching and have good foot speed.
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Post#1010 » by Warriors Analyst » Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:35 am

Mylie10 wrote:I really like Dinwiddie except for the fact that he shoots volume on low percentages. Maybe he will shoot better, but he was surrounded with other shooting and scoring options on the Nets, but still shot crummy numbers.

But the team really responded well to him and they had some minor success. I love his length and he could be a good defender if he put his mind to it.

Tell you what, I like Dinwiddie better than D’Lo and that’s no lie.


Dinwiddie started much of the year and his shooting percentages are definitely depressed by taking off-the dribble shots as the lead guard. Kyrie missed more than 2/3 of the season, LaVert 1/3 of the season. His percentages would climb here, he could run the second unit and he could play next to Steph. I'd probably take Dinwiddie + 19 straight up for the #2.
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Post#1011 » by ChuckDurn » Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:28 am

Little Digger wrote:Warriors get: Spencer Dinwiddie, Jarrett Allen, No. 19 overall pick in 2020 NBA Draft

Nets get: Victor Oladipo

Pacers get: No. 2 overall pick in 2020 NBA Draft

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/intriguing-warriors-nets-pacers-trade-discussed-bill-simmons-zach-lowe

My first reaction was “no”...... because if I have the #2 pick, I expect to end up with a guy with All-Star potential, either by using the pick on a high-ceiling guy, or by getting one in return. And none of Dinwiddie, Allen, or the #19 really fits that.

But I’d probably do this deal anyways. Allen was just 21 last year, and his advanced stats are excellent (better than Dinwiddie’s). Next year we’d have a great roster, though Dinwiddie has a player option in the summer of ‘21 and would probably leave for more money somewhere else. But we’d be able to retain Allen (he’ll be an RFA in ‘21). And I think there’s really good depth in the draft - guys like Bane, Saddiq Bey, Poku, even Tyler Terry would be really interesting at #19.

The thing we’d need to try to shore up is outside shooting - would need to get at least 1 or 2 more marksmen, or the only “good” shooters on the team are Curry and Klay, so things could get clogged. But I think I’d do this deal.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1012 » by ShayDee » Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:55 am

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Mylie10 wrote:I really like Dinwiddie except for the fact that he shoots volume on low percentages. Maybe he will shoot better, but he was surrounded with other shooting and scoring options on the Nets, but still shot crummy numbers.

But the team really responded well to him and they had some minor success. I love his length and he could be a good defender if he put his mind to it.

Tell you what, I like Dinwiddie better than D’Lo and that’s no lie.


Dinwiddie started much of the year and his shooting percentages are definitely depressed by taking off-the dribble shots as the lead guard. Kyrie missed more than 2/3 of the season, LaVert 1/3 of the season. His percentages would climb here, he could run the second unit and he could play next to Steph. I'd probably take Dinwiddie + 19 straight up for the #2.


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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1013 » by KevinMcreynolds » Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:11 am

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Mylie10 wrote:I really like Dinwiddie except for the fact that he shoots volume on low percentages. Maybe he will shoot better, but he was surrounded with other shooting and scoring options on the Nets, but still shot crummy numbers.

But the team really responded well to him and they had some minor success. I love his length and he could be a good defender if he put his mind to it.

Tell you what, I like Dinwiddie better than D’Lo and that’s no lie.


Dinwiddie started much of the year and his shooting percentages are definitely depressed by taking off-the dribble shots as the lead guard. Kyrie missed more than 2/3 of the season, LaVert 1/3 of the season. His percentages would climb here, he could run the second unit and he could play next to Steph. I'd probably take Dinwiddie + 19 straight up for the #2.


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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1014 » by DevinVassell » Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:15 am

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Mylie10 wrote:I really like Dinwiddie except for the fact that he shoots volume on low percentages. Maybe he will shoot better, but he was surrounded with other shooting and scoring options on the Nets, but still shot crummy numbers.

But the team really responded well to him and they had some minor success. I love his length and he could be a good defender if he put his mind to it.

Tell you what, I like Dinwiddie better than D’Lo and that’s no lie.


Dinwiddie started much of the year and his shooting percentages are definitely depressed by taking off-the dribble shots as the lead guard. Kyrie missed more than 2/3 of the season, LaVert 1/3 of the season. His percentages would climb here, he could run the second unit and he could play next to Steph. I'd probably take Dinwiddie + 19 straight up for the #2.


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That giff made me laugh for some reason. Just the dumbfounded surprise on his face. I can only guess what kind of statement it is in reaction to.

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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1015 » by Little Digger » Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:22 pm

Isaiah Stewart : 'I’m the biggest sleeper in the draft”

Maybe off the court Isaiah..On the court, there’s no doubt in my mind, Anthony Edwards is the biggest sleeper in the draft.
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Post#1016 » by Phase 3 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:45 pm

The two best options imo:

1) Draft Wiseman at #2.

Use the Trade Exception, taxpayer mle, vet minimums to bolster the depth. The Minny pick could also be used if a very attractive trade presents itself.

or

2) Package the #2 pick plus other picks for a legit star...Giannis, Embiid, Beal(questionable fit but a stud), ect. Use the trade exception, taxpayer mle, vet minimums to round out the roster.

These are the 2 most attractive options by far imo. I don’t see the appeal in using the #2 pick in a trade-back that lands us more picks of lesser value(we don’t need more young projects)....and I don’t understand why they would use the #2 pick in a trade that doesn’t bring back a legit star. Doesn’t make sense from the position of maximizing the return on your best asset.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1017 » by Scoots1994 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:01 pm

DevinVassell wrote:That giff made me laugh for some reason. Just the dumbfounded surprise on his face. I can only guess what kind of statement it is in reaction to.

The world we live in.


Unfortunately the world we live in gives us a choice between two losers and we all know at least one of them is going to win anyway.
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Post#1018 » by UcanUwill » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:06 pm

TB wrote:I see Deni impact along the lines of:

Worst Case - Osman / Casspi
Likely - Somewhere between Saric and Hayward
Best Case - Bigger Hayward / Sean Elliot

I think with what is supposed to be a great work ethic, he can get to that "Bigger Hayward" impact, which would be a really good player and a great use of the #2.


I think Hayward is best case not likely, Likely has to be worse than Hayward, I would rather say likely is Evan Turner 2.0.

I mean Saric was much better Euro player than Deni, Deni hasnt proven a ton at all so slow down saying he is likely to be good as NBA all star caliber player...
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread, Part 2 

Post#1019 » by Mylie10 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:08 pm

KevinMcreynolds wrote:
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Mylie10 wrote:I really like Dinwiddie except for the fact that he shoots volume on low percentages. Maybe he will shoot better, but he was surrounded with other shooting and scoring options on the Nets, but still shot crummy numbers.

But the team really responded well to him and they had some minor success. I love his length and he could be a good defender if he put his mind to it.

Tell you what, I like Dinwiddie better than D’Lo and that’s no lie.


Dinwiddie started much of the year and his shooting percentages are definitely depressed by taking off-the dribble shots as the lead guard. Kyrie missed more than 2/3 of the season, LaVert 1/3 of the season. His percentages would climb here, he could run the second unit and he could play next to Steph. I'd probably take Dinwiddie + 19 straight up for the #2.


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Post#1020 » by Mylie10 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:12 pm

Scoots1994 wrote:
DevinVassell wrote:That giff made me laugh for some reason. Just the dumbfounded surprise on his face. I can only guess what kind of statement it is in reaction to.

The world we live in.


Unfortunately the world we live in gives us a choice between two losers and we all know at least one of them is going to win anyway.


You’re so right. Both losers, Ball and Edwards...no choice
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