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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1001 » by cl2117 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:33 pm

Half-Full wrote:Our team has a problem, and I think it begins with our best player, Tatum. I think it would be wise to consider trading him for two reasons. One, we need a change in our JuJu, and his departure would certainly bring that. Our JuJu is too Tatum heavy. Two, his value would bring back the best return. What could we get for him, and how might it improve our team? That is something that is worth exploring I think.

Absolute madness. There is ZERO reason to entertain trading him.

Tatum is the kind of talent you tank for. He is 23 years old, he's basically zero drama on or off the court and he's signed for 4 years with a 5th year as a player option.

You don't trade one of the best building blocks in the NBA to "change your Juju". Change the coach (check), change the co-star, change the supporting cast. Change it all up before you start talking about trading your best player who hasn't even reached his peak yet.

Yes he will give you the best package in return, but you're not going to get a better piece to build around. You might be able to get pieces that make you a better team in the short-term, but in a star driven league it's not going to be enough to win you a championship and you're soon going to be looking at how you can package those players to get a Tatum level talent.

There are SO many other avenues to be explored before you start considering trading Tatum.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1002 » by Curmudgeon » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:09 am

Would anyone be surprised to learn that Tatum has privately requested a trade (probably to the Wizards so that he can play with Beal) and is trying to play his way out of town sooner rather than later?

I've never seen as player with Tatum's obvious offensive talent regress so steeply from one year to the next, at least not absent a significant injury.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1004 » by reload141 » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:25 am

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You didn't know? Everyone has requested a trade privately, that's why the team sucks balls and have no chance to get better.

NONE.

May as well move the Celtics to South Africa, I hear it's good there atm.
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Post#1005 » by Larry_Russell » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:27 am

What kind of return could
Pritchard
Juancho
Timelord

Bring in?

Need a cheap vet 3rd pg and a legit 3pt shooter, imo

Smart/schro
Shooter/jrich/nesmith
Brown/romeo
Tatum/grant/parker
Horf/kanter/bruno

I would love to look at kmart jr as a cheap depth wing with breakout potential.
I think a 3rd pg would be easy to find.

Its that starting sg who can shoot it.
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Post#1006 » by Feed Your Head » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:29 am

reload141 wrote:
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You didn't know? Everyone has requested a trade privately, that's why the team sucks balls and have no chance to get better.

NONE.

May as well move the Celtics to South Africa, I hear it's good there atm.


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Post#1007 » by Feed Your Head » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:30 am

Larry_Russell wrote:What kind of return could
Pritchard
Juancho
Timelord

Bring in?

Need a cheap vet 3rd pg and a legit 3pt shooter, imo

Smart/schro
Shooter/jrich/nesmith
Brown/romeo
Tatum/grant/parker
Horf/kanter/bruno

I would love to look at kmart jr as a cheap depth wing with breakout potential.
I think a 3rd pg would be easy to find.

Its that starting sg who can shoot it.


Can’t trade Rob this year, because of the extension. And you desperately need him, can’t depend on Al/Kanter at center going forward.

Pritchard and Juancho can go, though.
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Post#1008 » by Larry_Russell » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:31 am

Can we get Bame back?
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Post#1009 » by reload141 » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:32 am

The Comedian wrote:
reload141 wrote:
The Comedian wrote:Image


You didn't know? Everyone has requested a trade privately, that's why the team sucks balls and have no chance to get better.

NONE.

May as well move the Celtics to South Africa, I hear it's good there atm.


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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1010 » by reload141 » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:33 am

The Comedian wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:What kind of return could
Pritchard
Juancho
Timelord

Bring in?

Need a cheap vet 3rd pg and a legit 3pt shooter, imo

Smart/schro
Shooter/jrich/nesmith
Brown/romeo
Tatum/grant/parker
Horf/kanter/bruno

I would love to look at kmart jr as a cheap depth wing with breakout potential.
I think a 3rd pg would be easy to find.

Its that starting sg who can shoot it.


Can’t trade Rob this year, because of the extension. And you desperately need him, can’t depend on Al/Kanter at center going forward.

Tatum, Pritchard and Juancho can go, though. Brown can finally takeover this team and that Bum Tatum who can't shoot can go


Interesting.....
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Post#1011 » by Feed Your Head » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:35 am

reload141 wrote:
The Comedian wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:What kind of return could
Pritchard
Juancho
Timelord

Bring in?

Need a cheap vet 3rd pg and a legit 3pt shooter, imo

Smart/schro
Shooter/jrich/nesmith
Brown/romeo
Tatum/grant/parker
Horf/kanter/bruno

I would love to look at kmart jr as a cheap depth wing with breakout potential.
I think a 3rd pg would be easy to find.

Its that starting sg who can shoot it.


Can’t trade Rob this year, because of the extension. And you desperately need him, can’t depend on Al/Kanter at center going forward.

Tatum, Pritchard and Juancho can go, though. Brown can finally takeover this team and that Bum Tatum who can't shoot can go


Interesting.…maybe we can acquire Ben Simmons for Jaylen, sell high.


That is interesting.
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Post#1012 » by Larry_Russell » Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:36 am

The Comedian wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:What kind of return could
Pritchard
Juancho
Timelord

Bring in?

Need a cheap vet 3rd pg and a legit 3pt shooter, imo

Smart/schro
Shooter/jrich/nesmith
Brown/romeo
Tatum/grant/parker
Horf/kanter/bruno

I would love to look at kmart jr as a cheap depth wing with breakout potential.
I think a 3rd pg would be easy to find.

Its that starting sg who can shoot it.


Can’t trade Rob this year, because of the extension. And you desperately need him, can’t depend on Al/Kanter at center going forward.

Pritchard and Juancho can go, though.



Well u can trade timelord he is poison pill though.

Would need a depth 3rd center probably, but timelord is really the center that cannot be counted on.
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Post#1013 » by Larry_Russell » Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:37 pm

In January.

Timelord
Pritchard
Juancho
Nesmith
Protected 1st
Second

To houston for

Wood
Martin jr
Augustine
House

Add shooting and a vet pg.

Smart/schro/augustine
Brown/richardson/kmart
Tatum/romeo/house
Wood/grant/parker
Horford/kanter/bruno

Lots of versatility and options
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Post#1014 » by jfs1000d » Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:12 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:Would anyone be surprised to learn that Tatum has privately requested a trade (probably to the Wizards so that he can play with Beal) and is trying to play his way out of town sooner rather than later?

I've never seen as player with Tatum's obvious offensive talent regress so steeply from one year to the next, at least not absent a significant injury.


Tatum is fine. He's just missing shots. He's creating on offense, despite no spacing, and he's playing defense and rebounding.

He will snap out of it. He's a 45% shooter who is shooting 40%. Not awful. Just a slow shooting start to the year. And, his assists would be better if we have better shooters. His spacing would also be better. People act like Pierce didn't shoot 39% for an entire season.

Biggest drop off in game has been 3-point shooting. That will get better.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1015 » by BK_2020 » Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:21 pm

Tatum went from 105 TS+ in his rookie season to 98, 100, and 101 last season, while his USG% and scoring volume increased steadily. His FGA / game was 17 in his rookie season. Last season he was taking 28 FGA / game. He's been maintaining his efficiency while increasing volume. He's not efficient, but there is no alarming regression.
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Post#1016 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Nov 30, 2021 1:56 pm

John Wall to the Knicks for Kemba Walker and more just seems like an inevitable move for the Knicks.
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Post#1017 » by Curmudgeon » Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:09 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:John Wall to the Knicks for Kemba Walker and more just seems like an inevitable move for the Knicks.


It would be very difficult for the Knicks to make salaries match unless Wall is bought out. It would have to be Walker, Fournier and one other player for Wall.
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Post#1018 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:57 pm

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Celts17Pride wrote:John Wall to the Knicks for Kemba Walker and more just seems like an inevitable move for the Knicks.


It would be very difficult for the Knicks to make salaries match unless Wall is bought out. It would have to be Walker, Fournier and one other player for Wall.

I was thinking Walker, Fournier and Noel. I'm sure they are looking into it.

Why? Because they are the Knicks.
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Post#1019 » by playa-hater » Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:42 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:John Wall to the Knicks for Kemba Walker and more just seems like an inevitable move for the Knicks.


was reading that same trade in a NYC paper.. If not a buyout for Wall may actually happen. Thinking LAC would be high on the list.
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