Butler calls out Hoiberg / Update pg 33: KC releases negative report on Jimmy

cmd1985 · Post #1021 » by **cmd1985** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:38 pm

johnnyvann840 wrote:
bullslas wrote:
Butler has an issue with Taj and Noah. It's no secret..

you are so full of crap with this... these three are like the three amigos and the three hardest working guys on the floor always.

Not sure what's so funny about it. Noah just publicly discredited what Jimmy said, just because a guy hustles doesn't mean they get along. Jo and Derrick are really tight if there's a divide you can bank on them standing together

SpinninHouse · Post #1022 » by **SpinninHouse** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:39 pm

Jimmy Butler needs to STFU. While Butler has developed into a really good player - you better be a lot better than he is if you want to start spouting up publicly like that. What he did was pathetic, arrogant and harmful to the team.

I don't care how much truth there is to what he's saying -- to say it publicly is an embarrassment. He's not good enough to talk like that in the manner he did. Be a man and tell it to his face and not like a little cry baby throwing a tantrum.

If a player like Lebron or Steph Curry wants to do it, that is one thing. But Jimmy Butler isn't in that category. He's a very good two way player -- nothing more.

Why do players in professional sports continually say idiotic things like this?

I'll tell you one thing - I've clowned Rose for some of his statements but he's never thrown somebody under the bus like this.

DarthDiggler69 · Post #1023 » by **DarthDiggler69** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:39 pm

Smh at the title. Butler didnt ask for Thibs coaching style and the article wasn't negative

Indomitable · Post #1024 » by **Indomitable** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:39 pm

johnnyvann840 wrote:
bullslas wrote:
Butler has an issue with Taj and Noah. It's no secret..

you are so full of crap with this... these three are like the three amigos and the three hardest working guys on the floor always.

Dude Noah is definitely in Roses camp. Never got that feeling. Noah likes Snell more then Butler. Jimmy actually is not that well liked.

He gets knocked down and is in a tussle. No one comes.

johnnyvann840 · Post #1025 » by **johnnyvann840** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:41 pm

bullslas wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:
bullslas wrote:
Butler has an issue with Taj and Noah. It's no secret..

you are so full of crap with this... these three are like the three amigos and the three hardest working guys on the floor always.

Think what you want!

Please. don't patronize me... you come here all the time claim to be an insider and you clearly aren't. I know a couple and you're not one. Everything you post about knowing players and hearing things has always been false. So, sorry if I don't buy that crap. The rest of it is just common sense.

Indomitable · Post #1026 » by **Indomitable** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:43 pm

SpinninHouse wrote:Jimmy Butler needs to STFU. While Butler has developed into a really good player - you better be a lot better than he is if you want to start spouting up publicly like that. What he did was pathetic, arrogant and harmful to the team.

I don't care how much truth there is to what he's saying -- to say it publicly is an embarrassment. He's not good enough to talk like that in the manner he did. Be a man and tell it to his face and not like a little cry baby throwing a tantrum.

If a player like Lebron or Steph Curry wants to do it, that is one thing. But Jimmy Butler isn't in that category. He's a very good two way player -- nothing more.

Why do you players in professional sports continually say idiotically things like this?

I'll tell you one thing - I've clowned Rose for some of his statements but he's never throwing somebody under the bus like this.

Jimmy is immature and he made a mistake. Apologize and move on. This does not need to become a team killer.

Swarles Xavier · Post #1027 » by **Swarles Xavier** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:44 pm

Indomitable wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:
bullslas wrote:
Butler has an issue with Taj and Noah. It's no secret..

you are so full of crap with this... these three are like the three amigos and the three hardest working guys on the floor always.

Dude Noah is definitely in Roses camp. Never got that feeling. Noah likes Snell more then Butler. Jimmy actually is not that well liked.

He gets knocked down and is in a tussle. No one comes.

I actually think Rose is the one trying his best to get along with butler. See everytime jimmy falls Rose will always be the one running to help him up. Rose always look for butler to get his shots.

DarthDiggler69 · Post #1028 » by **DarthDiggler69** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:44 pm

cmd1985 wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:
bullslas wrote:
Butler has an issue with Taj and Noah. It's no secret..

you are so full of crap with this... these three are like the three amigos and the three hardest working guys on the floor always.

Not sure what's so funny about it. Noah just publicly discredited what Jimmy said, just because a guy hustles doesn't mean they get along. Jo and Derrick are really tight if there's a divide you can bank on them standing together

One thing Rose does that Butler doesn't or doesn't do often is praise players. Rose even on the biggest stage has praised or showed support of Snell, Doug, Niko, Jimmy, MDJ, Pau, Jo and Taj from what I remember but the only guy I can remember Butler showed support for was Rose, Pau and Jo(but long years ago), and if he did praise them it was like once.

johnnyvann840 · Post #1029 » by **johnnyvann840** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:45 pm

Indomitable wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:
bullslas wrote:
Butler has an issue with Taj and Noah. It's no secret..

you are so full of crap with this... these three are like the three amigos and the three hardest working guys on the floor always.

Dude Noah is definitely in Roses camp. Never got that feeling. Noah likes Snell more then Butler. Jimmy actually is not that well liked.

He gets knocked down and is in a tussle. No one comes.

I believe that... I just don't believe he has a problem with Taj or Jo not playing hard or needing to be coached harder.... I think he is (I KNOW he is talking about other players). Does Jimmy hang out with them? I'm not saying that. Jimmy has obviously alienated some teammates lately... he warms up on his own... he wasn't there for team bonding activities in NoCal. Now we have this.

Indomitable · Post #1030 » by **Indomitable** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:46 pm

cmd1985 wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:
bullslas wrote:
Butler has an issue with Taj and Noah. It's no secret..

you are so full of crap with this... these three are like the three amigos and the three hardest working guys on the floor always.

Not sure what's so funny about it. Noah just publicly discredited what Jimmy said, just because a guy hustles doesn't mean they get along. Jo and Derrick are really tight if there's a divide you can bank on them standing together

You beat me. But Noah and Rose have each others back.

DarthDiggler69 · Post #1031 » by **DarthDiggler69** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:47 pm

johnnyvann840 wrote:
Indomitable wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:

you are so full of crap with this... these three are like the three amigos and the three hardest working guys on the floor always.

Dude Noah is definitely in Roses camp. Never got that feeling. Noah likes Snell more then Butler. Jimmy actually is not that well liked.

He gets knocked down and is in a tussle. No one comes.

I believe that... I just don't believe he has a problem with Taj or Jo not playing hard or needing to be coached harder.... I think he is (I KNOW he is talking about other players). Does Jimmy hang out with them? I'm not saying that. Jimmy has obviously alienated some teammates lately... he warms up on his own... he wasn't there for team binding activities in NoCal. Now we have this.

The rumors of alienation is starting to lead me to he's working his way to force a trade if he doesn't get his way or whatever he wants, might have decided even before the contract. He could have just taken the Bulls contract for the extra money then force a trade. Just my opinion, it happens from time to time in the league, never happened to the Bulls from what I remember

Indomitable · Post #1032 » by **Indomitable** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:50 pm

johnnyvann840 wrote:
Indomitable wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:

you are so full of crap with this... these three are like the three amigos and the three hardest working guys on the floor always.

Dude Noah is definitely in Roses camp. Never got that feeling. Noah likes Snell more then Butler. Jimmy actually is not that well liked.

He gets knocked down and is in a tussle. No one comes.

I believe that... I just don't believe he has a problem with Taj or Jo not playing hard or needing to be coached harder.... I think he is (I KNOW he is talking about other players). Does Jimmy hang out with them? I'm not saying that. Jimmy has obviously alienated some teammates lately... he warms up on his own... he wasn't there for team bonding activities in NoCal. Now we have this.

Jimmy needs to get them together. People brought up lebron. Lebron also brought his guys together to workout and practice before last season began.

Jimmy if you are leading and no one is following. Maybe you need to re-evalute how you are leading.

NecessaryEvil · Post #1033 » by **NecessaryEvil** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:51 pm

DarthDiggler69 wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:
Indomitable wrote:Dude Noah is definitely in Roses camp. Never got that feeling. Noah likes Snell more then Butler. Jimmy actually is not that well liked.

He gets knocked down and is in a tussle. No one comes.

I believe that... I just don't believe he has a problem with Taj or Jo not playing hard or needing to be coached harder.... I think he is (I KNOW he is talking about other players). Does Jimmy hang out with them? I'm not saying that. Jimmy has obviously alienated some teammates lately... he warms up on his own... he wasn't there for team binding activities in NoCal. Now we have this.

Which is starting to lead me to he's working his way to force a trade if he doesn't get his way or whatever he wants, might have decided even before the contract. He could have just taken the Bulls contract for the extra money then force a trade. Just my opinion, it happens from time to time in the league, never happened to the Bulls from what I remember

I believe it also.

Butler/Gibson/Kings Pick/Snell/Bairstow/2016 1st rounder for Cousins/Gay

I don't see how GarPax don't try and make that possible by the deadline. More time for Portis, Niko stays and we get a top 2-3 center for the forseeable future.

johnnyvann840 · Post #1034 » by **johnnyvann840** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:53 pm

DarthDiggler69 wrote:
Which is starting to lead me to he's working his way to force a trade if he doesn't get his way or whatever he wants, might have decided even before the contract. He could have just taken the Bulls contract for the extra money then force a trade. Just my opinion, it happens from time to time in the league, never happened to the Bulls from what I remember

That is an interesting take... could be... who knows? But, it sure seems he wanted to be here in Chicago long term . Maybe things have changed since then and his relationship with some teammates has soured and he hates it here now... IDK.

cmd1985 · Post #1035 » by **cmd1985** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:57 pm

johnnyvann840 wrote:
DarthDiggler69 wrote:
Which is starting to lead me to he's working his way to force a trade if he doesn't get his way or whatever he wants, might have decided even before the contract. He could have just taken the Bulls contract for the extra money then force a trade. Just my opinion, it happens from time to time in the league, never happened to the Bulls from what I remember

That is an interesting take... could be... who knows? But, it sure seems he wanted to be here in Chicago long term . Maybe things have changed since then and his relationship with some teammates has soured and he hates it here now... IDK.

Jimmy said the right things but Jimmy wanted out of Chicago but there was truly no way out when the Bulls could match any offer. He got his money he will keep on speaking his feelings.

I beg to differ · Post #1036 » by **I beg to differ** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:57 pm

Does someone even remember all the leaked passive-aggressive fights our FO had with people?

johnnyvann840 · Post #1037 » by **johnnyvann840** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:59 pm

I beg to differ wrote:Does someone even remember all the leaked passive-aggressive fights our FO had with people?

There have been so many I can't

Indomitable · Post #1038 » by **Indomitable** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:59 pm

DarthDiggler69 wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:
Indomitable wrote:Dude Noah is definitely in Roses camp. Never got that feeling. Noah likes Snell more then Butler. Jimmy actually is not that well liked.

He gets knocked down and is in a tussle. No one comes.

I believe that... I just don't believe he has a problem with Taj or Jo not playing hard or needing to be coached harder.... I think he is (I KNOW he is talking about other players). Does Jimmy hang out with them? I'm not saying that. Jimmy has obviously alienated some teammates lately... he warms up on his own... he wasn't there for team binding activities in NoCal. Now we have this.

The rumors of alienation is starting to lead me to he's working his way to force a trade if he doesn't get his way or whatever he wants, might have decided even before the contract. He could have just taken the Bulls contract for the extra money then force a trade. Just my opinion, it happens from time to time in the league, never happened to the Bulls from what I remember

I do not believe he got a no trade. That would be stupid because they could move you anywhere if that was his idea.

I just believe he has been put into a position he has never been. He was not a leader at any level. The messed up thing is we need both Derrick and Jimmy to succeed to have any chance.

Pau while talented actually has players who could replace his production. Jimmy and DRose both are easily the best choices. Hey I like Taj, Noah, Portis, and even Niko.

I am all for moving Pau for a decent small forward. I would even take Corey Brewer.

bulliedog8 · Post #1039 » by **bulliedog8** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:59 pm

Would be unfortunate for Butler if he were to get traded right after buying a $4.5 million home in River North. But I would look into trading him at some point. Either for a young guy with potential (Dangelo Russell) or in a package for a Cousins.

johnnyvann840 · Post #1040 » by **johnnyvann840** » Mon Dec 21, 2015 4:02 pm

bulliedog8 wrote:Would be unfortunate for Butler if he were to get traded right after buying a $4.5 million home in River North. But I would look into trading him at some point. Either for a young guy with potential (Dangelo Russell) or in a package for a Cousins.

I was just going to say....he did just buy a significant property that is not that liquid or easy to sell..move and that becomes a huge alligator.