Official NBA General Discussion 2024-25 V1.0

[dTox]

Presti man

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[brownbobcat]

Not worth your time trying to deal with people who ignore the reality of the trade years later.

You mean the reality where Thad isn't even in the league anymore?

Exactly, it wasn’t about Thad Young. It was about cap flexibility. It’s really not rocket science here.

If you’re that surprised with this deal you need to follow basketball a lot more because these deals happen all the time.

Funny, someone told me the FO doesn't overpay guys and yet here they are trading out of the 1st round to fix a cap flexibility problem of their own creation.

[Tripod]

You mean the reality where Thad isn't even in the league anymore?

Exactly, it wasn’t about Thad Young. It was about cap flexibility. It’s really not rocket science here.

If you’re that surprised with this deal you need to follow basketball a lot more because these deals happen all the time.

Funny, someone told me the FO doesn't overpay guys and yet here they are trading out of the 1st round to fix a cap flexibility problem of their own creation.

Maybe no one should ever talk in absolutes one way or another.

[YogurtProducer]

You mean the reality where Thad isn't even in the league anymore?

Exactly, it wasn’t about Thad Young. It was about cap flexibility. It’s really not rocket science here.

If you’re that surprised with this deal you need to follow basketball a lot more because these deals happen all the time.

Funny, someone told me the FO doesn't overpay guys and yet here they are trading out of the 1st round to fix a cap flexibility problem of their own creation.

No, people said they don't have a habit of creating bad contracts.

And besides, needing to create cap room does not mean you have overpaid guys. With a salary cap, you can have to many guys and reach the cap while all of those guys still being on fair contracts.

The fact people are STILL harping on a 10 pick trade down is mind numbing. It ultimately it not a big deal.

[brownbobcat]

Exactly, it wasn’t about Thad Young. It was about cap flexibility. It’s really not rocket science here.

If you’re that surprised with this deal you need to follow basketball a lot more because these deals happen all the time.

Funny, someone told me the FO doesn't overpay guys and yet here they are trading out of the 1st round to fix a cap flexibility problem of their own creation.

Maybe no one should ever talk in absolutes one way or another.

I'm fine with absolutes, as long as people stay consistent and stop moving the goal posts. Looks like I have to update my old post about Thad:


Thad didn't cost a FRP.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not Masai's fault.
And if it was, he didn't mean it.
And if he did, it was for cap flexibility

[YogurtProducer]

Presti man

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What a bad tweet lol. 5 game sample, propped up by hitting 14 three pointers in 2 of those game. For context, it took he was 14/46 from 3 in the 13 games dating back to Jan 3 before those 2 games

[YogurtProducer]

Funny, someone told me the FO doesn't overpay guys and yet here they are trading out of the 1st round to fix a cap flexibility problem of their own creation.

Maybe no one should ever talk in absolutes one way or another.

I'm fine with absolutes, as long as people stay consistent and stop moving the goal posts. Looks like I have to update my old post about Thad:


Thad didn't cost a FRP.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not Masai's fault.
And if it was, he didn't mean it.
And if he did, it was for cap flexibility

Well you can stop after the first line, because Thad didn't cost a FRP.

Thad, as well the cap savings received in the, cost us moving down 13 slots in the draft. Y'all act like we traded a lottery pick straight up for him FFS. It is disingenuous and frankly annoying to read this drivel.

[brownbobcat]

No, people said they don't have a habit of creating bad contracts.

And besides, needing to create cap room does not mean you have overpaid guys. With a salary cap, you can have to many guys and reach the cap while all of those guys still being on fair contracts.

The fact people are STILL harping on a 10 pick trade down is mind numbing. It ultimately it not a big deal.

So the cap flexibility problem on an average team was because they had too many good contracts?
I cannot wait for the next excuse, these are just too good.

[dTox]

Presti man

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What a bad tweet lol. 5 game sample, propped up by hitting 14 three pointers in 2 of those game. For context, it took he was 14/46 from 3 in the 13 games dating back to Jan 3 before those 2 games

I mean, the guy does have a %60 TS, shooting it almost 38% from 3 for the season (and trending upwards), he's finally getting legitimate playing time and maintained that efficiency with higher volume, again, this is something out of the 55th pick of the draft. I am sure you would be ecstatic if any of our perimeter players had a %60 TS, even our lottery picks aren't showing this level of efficiency.

[brownbobcat]

I mean, the guy does have a %60 TS, shooting it almost 38% from 3 for the season (and trending upwards), he's finally getting legitimate playing time and maintained that efficiency with higher volume, again, this is something out of the 55th pick of the draft. I am sure you would be ecstatic if any of our perimeter players had a %60 TS, even our lottery picks aren't showing this level of efficiency.

Even if you remove this season entirely, Wiggins is still shooting a career 60% TS and 39% 3PT. And he's signed on a declining 5yr contract with $9M AAV. Meanwhile some people think it's a good idea to give Agbaji $20M/yr.

[YogurtProducer]

I mean, the guy does have a %60 TS, shooting it almost 38% from 3 for the season (and trending upwards), he's finally getting legitimate playing time and maintained that efficiency with higher volume, again, this is something out of the 55th pick of the draft. I am sure you would be ecstatic if any of our perimeter players had a %60 TS, even our lottery picks aren't showing this level of efficiency.

Oh yeah, I still like Wiggins I just hate the tweet.

[YogurtProducer]

Meanwhile some people think it's a good idea to give Agbaji $20M/yr.

One player being a steal, really doesn't impact Agbaji.

Besides, by "some" people you are referring to 3 out of 78 votes on an anonymous poll. Nothing to really worry about.

[Tripod]

I mean, the guy does have a %60 TS, shooting it almost 38% from 3 for the season (and trending upwards), he's finally getting legitimate playing time and maintained that efficiency with higher volume, again, this is something out of the 55th pick of the draft. I am sure you would be ecstatic if any of our perimeter players had a %60 TS, even our lottery picks aren't showing this level of efficiency.

Even if you remove this season entirely, Wiggins is still shooting a career 60% TS and 39% 3PT. And he's signed on a declining 5yr contract with $9M AAV. Meanwhile some people think it's a good idea to give Agbaji $20M/yr.

Can you list any of these people you claim think it's a good idea to give Ochai 20 mill?

Sounds like a made up statement to then rail against it

Edit...oh, 3 of 78? Lol

[brownbobcat]

I mean, the guy does have a %60 TS, shooting it almost 38% from 3 for the season (and trending upwards), he's finally getting legitimate playing time and maintained that efficiency with higher volume, again, this is something out of the 55th pick of the draft. I am sure you would be ecstatic if any of our perimeter players had a %60 TS, even our lottery picks aren't showing this level of efficiency.

Even if you remove this season entirely, Wiggins is still shooting a career 60% TS and 39% 3PT. And he's signed on a declining 5yr contract with $9M AAV. Meanwhile some people think it's a good idea to give Agbaji $20M/yr.

Can you list any of these people you claim think it's a good idea to give Ochai 20 mill?

Sounds like a made up statement to then rail against it

Edit...oh, 3 of 78? Lol

"Some" does not mean all or most and if we want to be pedantic about it, it's 7 people thinking above $15M would be a good idea.

[Los_29]

You mean the reality where Thad isn't even in the league anymore?

Exactly, it wasn’t about Thad Young. It was about cap flexibility. It’s really not rocket science here.

If you’re that surprised with this deal you need to follow basketball a lot more because these deals happen all the time.

Funny, someone told me the FO doesn't overpay guys and yet here they are trading out of the 1st round to fix a cap flexibility problem of their own creation.

That happens to the majority of teams in the league. I seriously am starting to question how much you follow basketball with these kinds of comments.

[Ari_Emanuel]

Presti man

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Literally just logged in to say that we need to have our sights set on A Wiggins when he hits free agency! He's a star in the making in the mold of a young Klay Thompson.

[brownbobcat]

Exactly, it wasn’t about Thad Young. It was about cap flexibility. It’s really not rocket science here.

If you’re that surprised with this deal you need to follow basketball a lot more because these deals happen all the time.

Funny, someone told me the FO doesn't overpay guys and yet here they are trading out of the 1st round to fix a cap flexibility problem of their own creation.

That happens to the majority of teams in the league. I seriously am starting to question how much you follow basketball with these kinds of comments.

The majority of the teams in league are not at the luxury tax line. If you think that, you unquestionably have zero idea how the cap is calculated.

[bape_lovers]

Are we talking about Kessler again?

[brownbobcat]

No, the part where we traded down 10 spots, still drafted a good prospect (can’t really predict blood clots), and got cap relief to re-sign guys.

We obviously didn’t see amazing value in Thad **** young

Those goalposts just keep getting farther and farther away, huh?

The 20th pick is a rotation player 37% of the time. The 33rd pick is 31% of the time. We **** won the trade. Thad is better than what the 20 or 33 will likely become.

Can we get over this?

[YogurtProducer]

No, the part where we traded down 10 spots, still drafted a good prospect (can’t really predict blood clots), and got cap relief to re-sign guys.

We obviously didn’t see amazing value in Thad **** young

Those goalposts just keep getting farther and farther away, huh?

The 20th pick is a rotation player 37% of the time. The 33rd pick is 31% of the time. We **** won the trade. Thad is better than what the 20 or 33 will likely become.

Can we get over this?

I mean, spot the lie?

You're bitching about a 6 percent decrease in odds.