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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#1041 » by GONYK » Tue May 24, 2016 2:06 am

throwbackewing33 wrote:I won't be voting for either Clinton or Trump. I'm voting on what my principles are, and they pretty much match Gary Johnson's principles. He's a good honest guy, two term governor, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, and climbed mt Everest. I think this is the year that people will start to realize that we have more than 2 parties to choose between.


Are you saying you think Gary Johnson will win the presidency?
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#1042 » by NY2TheBay » Tue May 24, 2016 2:18 am

GONYK wrote:
throwbackewing33 wrote:I won't be voting for either Clinton or Trump. I'm voting on what my principles are, and they pretty much match Gary Johnson's principles. He's a good honest guy, two term governor, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, and climbed mt Everest. I think this is the year that people will start to realize that we have more than 2 parties to choose between.


Are you saying you think Gary Johnson will win the presidency?


I think he saying he isn't willing to give into the 2 party system. With both potential nominees having their fair share of warts it may bring for an opportunity for a third party to shine. You don't need to give into the two party system because thats what is favored and preferred. I respect his stance. Vote off of principles and what you believe in not who you think will win.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#1043 » by throwbackewing33 » Tue May 24, 2016 3:18 am

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throwbackewing33 wrote:I won't be voting for either Clinton or Trump. I'm voting on what my principles are, and they pretty much match Gary Johnson's principles. He's a good honest guy, two term governor, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, and climbed mt Everest. I think this is the year that people will start to realize that we have more than 2 parties to choose between.


Are you saying you think Gary Johnson will win the presidency?


I think he saying he isn't willing to give into the 2 party system. With both potential nominees having their fair share of warts it may bring for an opportunity for a third party to shine. You don't need to give into the two party system because thats what is favored and preferred. I respect his stance. Vote off of principles and what you believe in not who you think will win.


No I do not think Gary Johnson will win. But I think he will get more votes than Perot got as a 3rd party. If you go to isidewith.com I think people would be surprised how much Gary Johnson would pop up as the candidate who supports their principles the most. He's not a known commodity but has recently been getting much more publicity. My inital point was that 2016 will be the election that will open people's eyes to the possibility of the Libertarian party breaking up the 2 party dynamic, or even opening the doors to other parties for that matter.
I think Gary Johnson will steal just as many votes from Hillary as he will from Trump. I like the chaos Trump has brought to the Republican Party but I simply don't agree with a lot of his principles. Gary Johnson represents my principles, so I don't see it as a wasted vote. If everyone voted on their own set of values and did a small amount of research on the candidates, then this country would change slightly for the better.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#1044 » by throwbackewing33 » Tue May 24, 2016 3:28 am

http://youtu.be/KQIuHGbKckY
Check out Joe Rogan's podcast with Gary Johnson. He's just a real guy trying to do what he thinks is best. He's not bought by anyone, or a robot politician.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#1045 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue May 24, 2016 4:38 am

throwbackewing33 wrote:
NY2TheBay wrote:
GONYK wrote:
Are you saying you think Gary Johnson will win the presidency?


I think he saying he isn't willing to give into the 2 party system. With both potential nominees having their fair share of warts it may bring for an opportunity for a third party to shine. You don't need to give into the two party system because thats what is favored and preferred. I respect his stance. Vote off of principles and what you believe in not who you think will win.


No I do not think Gary Johnson will win. But I think he will get more votes than Perot got as a 3rd party. If you go to isidewith.com I think people would be surprised how much Gary Johnson would pop up as the candidate who supports their principles the most. He's not a known commodity but has recently been getting much more publicity. My inital point was that 2016 will be the election that will open people's eyes to the possibility of the Libertarian party breaking up the 2 party dynamic, or even opening the doors to other parties for that matter.

I think Gary Johnson will steal just as many votes from Hillary as he will from Trump. I like the chaos Trump has brought to the Republican Party but I simply don't agree with a lot of his principles. Gary Johnson represents my principles, so I don't see it as a wasted vote. If everyone voted on their own set of values and did a small amount of research on the candidates, then this country would change slightly for the better.


I definitely get the lack of interest in either Trump or Clinton. Let me ask you this, what state do you live in?
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#1046 » by throwbackewing33 » Tue May 24, 2016 9:15 pm

I live in New Jersey.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#1047 » by Capn'O » Tue May 24, 2016 10:33 pm

throwbackewing33 wrote:
NY2TheBay wrote:
GONYK wrote:
Are you saying you think Gary Johnson will win the presidency?


I think he saying he isn't willing to give into the 2 party system. With both potential nominees having their fair share of warts it may bring for an opportunity for a third party to shine. You don't need to give into the two party system because thats what is favored and preferred. I respect his stance. Vote off of principles and what you believe in not who you think will win.


No I do not think Gary Johnson will win. But I think he will get more votes than Perot got as a 3rd party. If you go to isidewith.com I think people would be surprised how much Gary Johnson would pop up as the candidate who supports their principles the most. He's not a known commodity but has recently been getting much more publicity. My inital point was that 2016 will be the election that will open people's eyes to the possibility of the Libertarian party breaking up the 2 party dynamic, or even opening the doors to other parties for that matter.
I think Gary Johnson will steal just as many votes from Hillary as he will from Trump. I like the chaos Trump has brought to the Republican Party but I simply don't agree with a lot of his principles. Gary Johnson represents my principles, so I don't see it as a wasted vote. If everyone voted on their own set of values and did a small amount of research on the candidates, then this country would change slightly for the better.


I like Johnson. He's one of those guys that I have some significant disagreements with but I respect who he is and how he arrived at his platform. True libertarians offer a viewpoint that I find valuable and share some views with. That said, he's got a long way to go before he's in standing with Perot. As of now, I would hope he is able to boost his profile to get the margins needed for funding and representation in future debates. He does stand to gain some ground simply because Trump in particular is so unlikable if he can gain some media traction.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#1048 » by Cr0w » Wed May 25, 2016 12:54 am

throwbackewing33 wrote:http://youtu.be/KQIuHGbKckY
Check out Joe Rogan's podcast with Gary Johnson. He's just a real guy trying to do what he thinks is best. He's not bought by anyone, or a robot politician.


In this day and age libertarians are at best misguided and at worst treasonous.

How could you want to deregulate to make things easier for the only class of people that have seen improvements in the last 30 years, the top 5%. What the f-ck?
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#1049 » by CJackson » Wed May 25, 2016 5:12 am

amazing to think anybody actually says trump represents anything more than his own self interests

the republic has devolved into voting for attitude alone and somehow trumps i will crap all over you attitude has won over the hearts of all the wounded little white boys in america
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#1050 » by thebuzzardman » Wed May 25, 2016 3:45 pm

Seems like most of the libertarians turn into right wing Republicans when they get elected. Looking at you Paul family, Walker.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#1051 » by EricAnderson » Wed May 25, 2016 4:57 pm

CluelessJackson wrote:amazing to think anybody actually says trump represents anything more than his own self interests

the republic has devolved into voting for attitude alone and somehow trumps i will crap all over you attitude has won over the hearts of all the wounded little white boys in america


Trump is bringing pride back to a country where we've lost pride with a president who has pandered to everyone

As far as your "wounded little white boys" comment. Trump and his supporters ars simply not letting liberals paint the white guys are all evil narrative and liberals hate it.

These soft liberals love to bully people and label them homophobic racist or whatever whenever something even slightly off color is said even if it's in a joking manner

Now that trump and his supporters are telling them to F off and that their dumb labels liberals put on them doesn't effect them liberals don't know what to do anymore.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#1052 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed May 25, 2016 9:27 pm

Can we change this to simply the "2016 Presidential Race Thread" at this point?
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#1053 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed May 25, 2016 9:30 pm

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/hillary-clinton-emails-state-report-223574

The 9 biggest revelations in the State IG report on Clinton's emails
The 83-page document provided fresh details about whether the private server was authorized and concerns about hacking attacks.


1. Clinton's email setup was never approved by State security agencies

2. Clinton never sought assistance to set up her email system to transmit certain sensitive information

3. The arrangement made staffers nervous—and management told them to keep quiet

4. Clinton's chief of staff suggested setting up a separate computer

5. Clinton worried about 'the personal being accessible'

6. Abedin rejected the idea for Clinton to use two devices

7. Clinton's email system needed troubleshooting

8. The server was briefly shut down over hacking concerns

9. Clinton and her staffers worried about being hacked but didn't report to security personnel

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/hillary-clinton-emails-state-report-223574#ixzz49hnoO7AM
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#1054 » by AllanH20 » Wed May 25, 2016 9:34 pm

EricAnderson wrote:
CluelessJackson wrote:amazing to think anybody actually says trump represents anything more than his own self interests

the republic has devolved into voting for attitude alone and somehow trumps i will crap all over you attitude has won over the hearts of all the wounded little white boys in america


Trump is bringing pride back to a country where we've lost pride with a president who has pandered to everyone

As far as your "wounded little white boys" comment. Trump and his supporters ars simply not letting liberals paint the white guys are all evil narrative and liberals hate it.

These soft liberals love to bully people and label them homophobic racist or whatever whenever something even slightly off color is said even if it's in a joking manner

Now that trump and his supporters are telling them to F off and that their dumb labels liberals put on them doesn't effect them liberals don't know what to do anymore.


We found a wounded little white boy! :lol:

I can't wait until all of you **** off to the hole where you came from in a few months.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#1055 » by NY2TheBay » Wed May 25, 2016 9:41 pm

Im going to be honest, I am shocked this thread has stood up this long. I said early on I thought this wasn't going to last. Props to the posters that have kept it civil so far.

You get some insight on what people are about in threads like this and gain knowledge of views from both ends of the spectrum which I appreciate.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#1056 » by EricAnderson » Wed May 25, 2016 10:35 pm

AllanH20 wrote:
EricAnderson wrote:
CluelessJackson wrote:amazing to think anybody actually says trump represents anything more than his own self interests

the republic has devolved into voting for attitude alone and somehow trumps i will crap all over you attitude has won over the hearts of all the wounded little white boys in america


Trump is bringing pride back to a country where we've lost pride with a president who has pandered to everyone

As far as your "wounded little white boys" comment. Trump and his supporters ars simply not letting liberals paint the white guys are all evil narrative and liberals hate it.

These soft liberals love to bully people and label them homophobic racist or whatever whenever something even slightly off color is said even if it's in a joking manner

Now that trump and his supporters are telling them to F off and that their dumb labels liberals put on them doesn't effect them liberals don't know what to do anymore.


We found a wounded little white boy! :lol:

I can't wait until all of you **** off to the hole where you came from in a few months.


Oh no I need my safe space you said something mean and bigoted! Isn't that how you liberals work? :lol:

And where not going anywhere.. If you looked at the latest polls Trump is gonna destroy Hillary. Sucks for you I guess.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#1057 » by CJackson » Wed May 25, 2016 11:32 pm

EricAnderson wrote:
CluelessJackson wrote:amazing to think anybody actually says trump represents anything more than his own self interests

the republic has devolved into voting for attitude alone and somehow trumps i will crap all over you attitude has won over the hearts of all the wounded little white boys in america


Trump is bringing pride back to a country where we've lost pride with a president who has pandered to everyone

As far as your "wounded little white boys" comment. Trump and his supporters ars simply not letting liberals paint the white guys are all evil narrative and liberals hate it.

These soft liberals love to bully people and label them homophobic racist or whatever whenever something even slightly off color is said even if it's in a joking manner

Now that trump and his supporters are telling them to F off and that their dumb labels liberals put on them doesn't effect them liberals don't know what to do anymore.


OK, I will play along

I would like to understand how trump will make American great again

What exactly is the greatness America has lost?

How does that get regained?

and which of Trump's policies resonate with you?
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#1058 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu May 26, 2016 12:05 am

CluelessJackson wrote:
EricAnderson wrote:
CluelessJackson wrote:amazing to think anybody actually says trump represents anything more than his own self interests

the republic has devolved into voting for attitude alone and somehow trumps i will crap all over you attitude has won over the hearts of all the wounded little white boys in america


Trump is bringing pride back to a country where we've lost pride with a president who has pandered to everyone

As far as your "wounded little white boys" comment. Trump and his supporters ars simply not letting liberals paint the white guys are all evil narrative and liberals hate it.

These soft liberals love to bully people and label them homophobic racist or whatever whenever something even slightly off color is said even if it's in a joking manner

Now that trump and his supporters are telling them to F off and that their dumb labels liberals put on them doesn't effect them liberals don't know what to do anymore.


OK, I will play along

I would like to understand how trump will make American great again

What exactly is the greatness America has lost?

How does that get regained?

and which of Trump's policies resonate with you?


Prolly hard to tell since they change all the time.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#1059 » by Riot Randolph » Thu May 26, 2016 1:00 am

AllanH20 wrote:
EricAnderson wrote:
CluelessJackson wrote:amazing to think anybody actually says trump represents anything more than his own self interests

the republic has devolved into voting for attitude alone and somehow trumps i will crap all over you attitude has won over the hearts of all the wounded little white boys in america


Trump is bringing pride back to a country where we've lost pride with a president who has pandered to everyone

As far as your "wounded little white boys" comment. Trump and his supporters ars simply not letting liberals paint the white guys are all evil narrative and liberals hate it.

These soft liberals love to bully people and label them homophobic racist or whatever whenever something even slightly off color is said even if it's in a joking manner

Now that trump and his supporters are telling them to F off and that their dumb labels liberals put on them doesn't effect them liberals don't know what to do anymore.


We found a wounded little white boy! :lol:

I can't wait until all of you **** off to the hole where you came from in a few months.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump Momentum Thread 

Post#1060 » by CJackson » Thu May 26, 2016 3:49 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
CluelessJackson wrote:
EricAnderson wrote:
Trump is bringing pride back to a country where we've lost pride with a president who has pandered to everyone

As far as your "wounded little white boys" comment. Trump and his supporters ars simply not letting liberals paint the white guys are all evil narrative and liberals hate it.

These soft liberals love to bully people and label them homophobic racist or whatever whenever something even slightly off color is said even if it's in a joking manner

Now that trump and his supporters are telling them to F off and that their dumb labels liberals put on them doesn't effect them liberals don't know what to do anymore.


OK, I will play along

I would like to understand how trump will make American great again

What exactly is the greatness America has lost?

How does that get regained?

and which of Trump's policies resonate with you?


Prolly hard to tell since they change all the time.


for somebody acting so cocky i lobbed them a softball. all they have to do is step up to the plate and knock it out of the park

i would like to see if ericanderson is just a blowhard or if they can answer the utterly simple questions I posed to them

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