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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1041 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:45 am

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blanko wrote:I would perfer frank play international ball


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I get that but he’s still trying to find his way with the Knicks. Being with the team and coaching staff can only help him. Being distant will get him traded. IMO


i don't know about that. he's a young player who has already passed up one opporunity to work with the national team. he's missed a lot of court time due to injury. this could be a great opportunity to get his legs under him and build his confidence against good talent before the NBA season. i don't mind dude committing to this for now.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1042 » by ny-n-md » Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:50 am

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blanko wrote:I would perfer frank play international ball


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I get that but he’s still trying to find his way with the Knicks. Being with the team and coaching staff can only help him. Being distant will get him traded. IMO


i don't know about that. he's a young player who has already passed up one opporunity to work with the national team. he's missed a lot of court time due to injury. this could be a great opportunity to get his legs under him and build his confidence against good talent before the NBA season. i don't mind dude committing to this for now.

Maybe so, but I think when you’re trying to build something special, you want all hands on deck. I think this FO is building and want to keep a close eye and hands on all of their young assets. Playing abroad while another opportunity is there to play with the team can be counterproductive. This is just my opinion. I’m hoping it works out for Frank. He has potential but he’s reached “put up or shut up” time.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1043 » by blanko » Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:13 pm

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ny-n-md wrote:I get that but he’s still trying to find his way with the Knicks. Being with the team and coaching staff can only help him. Being distant will get him traded. IMO


i don't know about that. he's a young player who has already passed up one opporunity to work with the national team. he's missed a lot of court time due to injury. this could be a great opportunity to get his legs under him and build his confidence against good talent before the NBA season. i don't mind dude committing to this for now.

Maybe so, but I think when you’re trying to build something special, you want all hands on deck. I think this FO is building and want to keep a close eye and hands on all of their young assets. Playing abroad while another opportunity is there to play with the team can be counterproductive. This is just my opinion. I’m hoping it works out for Frank. He has potential but he’s reached “put up or shut up” time.
The knicks will have people following frank overseas, it is standard procedure in todays nba with the influx of foreign players. Had frank been a 3rd year american player he wouldnt get a chance to play organized basketball other than pickup games. Frank needs as many real game situations as possible, international ball is superior to summer league in every way.

I agree with you that he needs to show offensive improvement. Its his 3rd year.

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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1044 » by blanko » Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:18 pm

All that being said:
Even Chauncey Billups, an american who went to university in the us says he wasnt ready dor the first few years. He was 20 when he got drafted, iirc frank just turned 18 when he got drafted. Frank has been in the nba for 2 years, long enough to get his bearings and know what needs to be done. He just needs to work on his handle and his shooting.

I believe he has the work ethic for that. Even if you hate frank, you want him to play better so he can raise his value.

All the frank lovers and haters should pray for an improved frank.

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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1045 » by 2010 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:13 pm

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He could easily play both. Summer League ends with 2 weeks to spare before preparation for the FIBA World Cup.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1046 » by blanko » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:20 pm

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He could easily play both. Summer League ends with 2 weeks to spare before preparation for the FIBA World Cup.
Summer league is nonsense, i don't know why people put so much into it.

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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1047 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:22 pm

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He could easily play both. Summer League ends with 2 weeks to spare before preparation for the FIBA World Cup.


yeah. they're not mutually exclusive. but i also understand why someone preparing for international competition might not want to risk injury in SL.

i don't think there's a wrong answer. situational preference.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1048 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:23 pm

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blanko wrote:I would perfer frank play international ball


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He could easily play both. Summer League ends with 2 weeks to spare before preparation for the FIBA World Cup.
Summer league is nonsense, i don't know why people put so much into it.

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eh. ballers like to get run.

i see most of the value for discovering your 2-way, exhibit 10, and end of bench guys. the league is taking that all more seriously, so SL has implications there.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1049 » by 2010 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:28 pm

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He could easily play both. Summer League ends with 2 weeks to spare before preparation for the FIBA World Cup.
Summer league is nonsense, i don't know why people put so much into it.

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If it was such nonsense it wouldn’t be heavily promoted by the NBA, heavily televised, earning revenue via sponsors, and heavy fan interest.

Just admit it. Frank is fully able to play in VSL if he wanted to. His FIBA schedule is not the reason why he isn’t going.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1050 » by 2010 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:31 pm

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blanko wrote:I would perfer frank play international ball


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He could easily play both. Summer League ends with 2 weeks to spare before preparation for the FIBA World Cup.


yeah. they're not mutually exclusive. but i also understand why someone preparing for international competition might not want to risk injury in SL.

i don't think there's a wrong answer. situational preference.


I hear you on that. But the flip side is what about FIBA posing risk to Frank’s preparation for the NBA season. He hasn’t exactly proven to be an Ironman.

The bottom line is he is willing to take the risk for FIBA but not for Vegas Summer League. And that is fine. But some just didn’t want to bluntly admit that (not you).

They were inferring it was a schedule clash. Which it is not.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1051 » by GONYK » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:32 pm

2010 wrote:
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He could easily play both. Summer League ends with 2 weeks to spare before preparation for the FIBA World Cup.
Summer league is nonsense, i don't know why people put so much into it.

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If it was such nonsense it wouldn’t be heavily promoted by the NBA, heavily televised, earning revenue via sponsors, and heavy fan interest.


The NBA lotto checks all the same boxes and it is most certainly nonsense
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Post#1052 » by 21 Hussle » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:32 pm

SL is as pointless as it gets. None of the play translates to an actual NBA game. It’s just fun to see new draftees play for their new team.

Mitch, Knox, and Trier shouldn’t even be playing.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1053 » by 2010 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:36 pm

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blanko wrote:Summer league is nonsense, i don't know why people put so much into it.

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If it was such nonsense it wouldn’t be heavily promoted by the NBA, heavily televised, earning revenue via sponsors, and heavy fan interest.


The NBA lotto checks all the same boxes and it is most certainly nonsense


How is the lotto nonsense? If it were nonsense they wouldn’t have had to make rule changes due to a significant portion of the league blatantly tanking. Lottery results can be franchise altering.

If you guys want to label an NBA function as nonsense then let’s start with NBA All-Star Friday/Saturday. Only reason I omit the actual all star game on Sunday is they may put Finals home court advantage at stake.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1054 » by 2010 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:39 pm

Orange21 wrote:SL is as pointless as it gets. None of the play translates to an actual NBA game. It’s just fun to see new draftees play for their new team.

Mitch, Knox, and Trier shouldn’t even be playing.


If it is pointless and doesn’t translate then why do you want to watch the new draftees play?

Then why is it heavily scouted?

If the Knicks chose not to let their players participate every one of you would cry about it.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1055 » by GONYK » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:41 pm

2010 wrote:
GONYK wrote:
2010 wrote:
If it was such nonsense it wouldn’t be heavily promoted by the NBA, heavily televised, earning revenue via sponsors, and heavy fan interest.


The NBA lotto checks all the same boxes and it is most certainly nonsense


How is the lotto nonsense? If it were nonsense they wouldn’t have had to make rule changes due to a significant portion of the league blatantly tanking. Lottery results can be franchise altering.


The actual thing that they televise is total nonsense. They spend 2 hours for something that takes 90 secs to determine and disseminate.

But it is heavily promoted, earns revenue via sponsors, and generates heavy fan interest.

If you guys want to label an NBA function as nonsense then let’s start with NBA All-Star Friday/Saturday. Only reason I omit the actual all star game on Sunday is they may put Finals home court advantage at stake.


Agreed. All Star Weekend is all trash.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1056 » by ezmoney707 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:44 pm

Summer league vs. training and getting ready for meaningful competition is a no brainer.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1057 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:45 pm

2010 wrote:
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2010 wrote:
He could easily play both. Summer League ends with 2 weeks to spare before preparation for the FIBA World Cup.


yeah. they're not mutually exclusive. but i also understand why someone preparing for international competition might not want to risk injury in SL.

i don't think there's a wrong answer. situational preference.


I hear you on that. But the flip side is what about FIBA posing risk to Frank’s preparation for the NBA season. He hasn’t exactly proven to be an Ironman.

The bottom line is he is willing to take the risk for FIBA but not for Vegas Summer League. And that is fine. But some just didn’t want to bluntly admit that (not you).

They were inferring it was a schedule clash. Which it is not.


i am of the belief that the FIBA is probably more useful at this point. but i agree that it's not a schedule conflict. he could conceivably do it all if he thought it was all helpful. we haven't heard any decisions. he might. lol.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1058 » by 21 Hussle » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:51 pm

2010 wrote:
Orange21 wrote:SL is as pointless as it gets. None of the play translates to an actual NBA game. It’s just fun to see new draftees play for their new team.

Mitch, Knox, and Trier shouldn’t even be playing.


If it is pointless and doesn’t translate then why do you want to watch the new draftees play?

Then why is it heavily scouted?

If the Knicks chose not to let their players participate every one of you would cry about it.

I barely watch it. If the Knicks held out their players I couldn’t care less, it’s the summer I’ll find something else to do.

If SL meant so much how come all the MVPs amount to nothing? Or why no one is signed to play meaningful NBA minutes

Heavily scouted lol.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1059 » by 2010 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:52 pm

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yeah. they're not mutually exclusive. but i also understand why someone preparing for international competition might not want to risk injury in SL.

i don't think there's a wrong answer. situational preference.


I hear you on that. But the flip side is what about FIBA posing risk to Frank’s preparation for the NBA season. He hasn’t exactly proven to be an Ironman.

The bottom line is he is willing to take the risk for FIBA but not for Vegas Summer League. And that is fine. But some just didn’t want to bluntly admit that (not you).

They were inferring it was a schedule clash. Which it is not.


i am of the belief that the FIBA is probably more useful at this point. but i agree that it's not a schedule conflict. he could conceivably do it all if he thought it was all helpful. we haven't heard any decisions. he might. lol.


I think it was Begley who has already tweeted that Frank definitely isn’t playing in Vegas.
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Re: Official Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#1060 » by 2010 » Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:57 pm

Orange21 wrote:
2010 wrote:
Orange21 wrote:SL is as pointless as it gets. None of the play translates to an actual NBA game. It’s just fun to see new draftees play for their new team.

Mitch, Knox, and Trier shouldn’t even be playing.


If it is pointless and doesn’t translate then why do you want to watch the new draftees play?

Then why is it heavily scouted?

If the Knicks chose not to let their players participate every one of you would cry about it.

I barely watch it. If the Knicks held out their players I couldn’t care less, it’s the summer I’ll find something else to do.

If SL meant so much how come all the MVPs amount to nothing? Or why no one is signed to play meaningful NBA minutes

Heavily scouted lol.


Players have earned contracts and camp invites based on their VSL play. You sound ignorant af scoffing and laughing at the notion it’s scouted.
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